Has The Concept Of Feminity Changed? - I just don't understand

[Jaimas]

I've done counseling for transgendered individuals, and could speak at length on this topic. Suffice it to say that the FtMs and MtFs that are actually normal people who feel trapped in the wrong gender are pretty much invisible in society. They don't act out, they don't go online and do fetish stuff, they don't publically march or demand free money. If anything, they're embarrassed by their condition. They just want to be Normal.

I tend to think that the "real" transgendered population act much like a lot of people who have to live with debilitating conditions. Some people who were born without an arm or a leg just may just want to live their life as best they can, and they don't want pity. They don't like to bring it up, and are usually embarrassed if it is. They don't want special treatment. They just want to live. There are plenty of transgenders who are like that, but you'll never see them online. That's just for the attention whores and autists.

I remember some time ago, I started looking over some statistics. I think it was around the time we were defanging Vade.

Prior to the rise of the troons, the only legit transpeople I'd run into were the ones with honest-to-god dysphoria diagnoses. Your average person could and did go through their entire lives without meeting one, and if you did, odds are good you'd never expect that they were trans. The thing is: These people constituted an incredibly small minority. Such a small minority that if all of them arrived on Social Media together at one time they'd be less able to leverage their voice than the usual psychopathic troon ideologues we mock on this very website.

Troons outnumber the real trannies hundreds of times over. It's crazy. They've effectively eviscerated any hope of legitimate transgendered rights activism for a generation or more.

 

[escapegoat]

Oh, I don't doubt that there are some people who've got some hormonal thing happening, or a condition where their brains are just a tiny bit off in mapping their body parts. Weird things happen. I also feel for genetically intersexed people who are lumped in with super annoying people.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Even the trans activists I've talked to are just asking for the same rights as everyone else, and NOT to be treated like shit. I think it's just like most shit: the media always exposes the worst examples, because it's more entertaining. (Who are the lolcows -- your fifty-year-old trans woman neighbor who works as an accountant and spends her weekends playing tennis, or one of the Rat Kings?)

 

[escapegoat]

Even the trans activists I've talked to are just asking for the same rights as everyone else, and NOT to be treated like shit.

Unfortunately, that means shit like "I'm a real woman, therefore, though I may be a sex offender who attacked women repeatedly, I should go to a women's prison for my sentence, and any one who complains is a bigot who treats me like shit."

 

[Bum Driller]

What intrigues me is why specifically troons have become such a fad in this age? Is it because this trend coincidently happened simultaneously with the massive expansion of internet user-base and the rise of social media?

 

[Jaimas]

What intrigues me is why specifically troons have become such a fad in this age? Is it because this trend coincidently happened simultaneously with the massive expansion of internet user-base and the rise of social media?

Social Media, a generation of kids raised to hate normalcy by insane communists, and this fucking thing.

 

[Real Mayun]

For the msot part, masculinity and femininity are vague concepts. They really refer to a wide variety of personality traits that vary from person to person. A British documentary show showed that almost every mental trait associated with men and women has plenty of exceptions. Men and women can be introverted or extroverted.

But there is one exception: childcare. Five men and five women were asked to change diapers. Every man (except one) found it gross, but all the women (even the engineer) didn't mind. This could be why MTFs still think that period blood is gross, and why many FTMs get pregnant despite crippling dysphoria.

And when MTFs adopt babies, they handle them like fathers do. They never have that look on their face that a mother would.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

A British documentary show showed that almost every mental trait associated with men and women has plenty of exceptions. Men and women can be introverted or extroverted.

I completely agree with that and Jung believed that the psyche is essentially androgynous (mixture of both male and female), but he also believed that actual women, through biology and socialization, identify and express feminity more naturally than men who tend to push it away to the subconscious where it is more likely to be manifested in pathology (autogynephilia, MRAs, effeminate campy behavior).
The outward expression of feminity is slightly different from culture to culture, but there are some commonalities like bonding, introspection, and attentiveness, responsiveness.
It really proves my point, feminity is not about shopping, high heels, and weird hand gestures. It's essentially mammalian in nature.

 

[Somsnosa]

we are in the age of thicc

this is just a meme but it is quite interesting that the image of the fertile woman is coming back

 

[Kyria the Great]

They only reason that this concept has changed is because the newest generation of jackasses are so obsessed with subverting everything simply because their teacher or professor told them so. They have no rational thought or even no clear vision, just the fact the key to the future is abandoning motherhood .