Has the media and corporations left Men behind? - Are Women in control of the consumer market?

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V0dka

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It's come to my attention in the last year or so that corporations of various kinds across almost all types of products in the last 10 years or so have been aggressively pursuing the Female demo, at the expense of the male demo.

Trade shows.
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Sports.
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Videogames.
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Movies
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Even media.
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And I think this comes primarily from no, not feminist groups, not social justice marxist communists. They've always been there, they've been there since the 60's. It's corporations, corporations that realize they can get more money out of Women now, than Men.



The "feminization of America" is a paradox. It is a triumph of the feminist movement -- and a sign of anti-feminist backlash. It represents a new level of respect for women's strength and independence -- and a patronizing calculation about female gullibility and weakness. It suggests that cultural politics has infected the free market -- and that the free market is controlling both politics and culture more than ever.

At the core of these contradictions is an idea new to our culture and our time: Women are now thought to have more in common with other women than they do with men of similar ethnicity, religion, or income level, their interests coinciding more with those of other women than with those of their own fathers and brothers and husbands and sons. Women now constitute a class -- a dominant class.

One phrase that crops up again and again in the mouths of those trying to sell products and shows and candidates to women is "soft focus," which implies gauzy emotional appeals over hard, rational argument. The ultimate in soft focus was this year's major advertising event, the Summer Olympics on NBC. The Olympics are, of course, a sporting event, and sporting events traditionally earn an audience that is something like 75 percent male. Horst Stipp, the network's director of social and developmental research, says, " Our research suggested that men would keep watching, but women could be added. " By placing the 19-day event in soft focus, NBC garnered huge ratings -- they were up 21 percent from 1992 -- and NBC grossed $ 700 million in advertising.

"Women on-line are probably in higher positions and incomes than men on-line -- you're getting influencers." But then she adds that a new marketing campaign from CompuServe will have "a much more emotional pitch . . . that may strike core values particularly present in women." In other words, women are sentimental.

So which is it? Are women power-wielding "influencers" or flowzy, blowzy creatures of emotion? Is this the ultimate triumph of feminism or its savage reversal?

Barbara Lippert, an advertising critic at Adweek, says, "The curious thing going on in terms of ads appealing to women is the imagery: Men and women have essentially reversed roles. For 30 years, if somebody was stupid and bought a product and got smart, it was a woman. Today it's a man. If someone is cooking, it's a man. We're ogling male nipples and breasts and pecs." The most famous of such ads is the one for Diet Coke in which women working in an office scramble to catch a glimpse of a disrobing construction worker. There's a curious con job that's being practiced in the name of feminism here. Women are being peddled the delusion that they're liberated enough to view men as sex objects, in order to get them to buy a product to keep themselves thin.

https://www.weeklystandard.com/christopher-caldwell/the-feminization-of-america


The marketing idea is, in the modern age, with Women now more equal in earning power to Men than ever before, Women are better consumers. They are social media influencers, they will recommend products for their friends. They are more likely to buy a product and try it if they are advertised to. Men, conversely, are typically a weak consumer base, they tend to buy what they need, not what they want, they don't have terms like "retail therapy", they typically only try a new product if they are able to use it in person first. They are more brand loyal. They are picky about quality. All bad things to have in a consumer.

And even if they don't pander to the Male demo, they don't have to worry, because the Women in their lives will ask them to take them to the movie they want to go to, or buy the thing they want. Men will act as a consumer proxy through Women. And also cost of the shopping and buying decisions are often made by the Women, especially in family situations, where their kids go to school, what they eat, what they watch, what they wear, what their husband wears.

Women are the perfect marketing vector. So you are seeing the market shift more and more to try and pander to their tastes, their wants.

So what do you guys think, crazy conspiracy theory or what?
 

SmileyTimeDayCare

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Few thoughts:

I hit six trade shows a year sometimes more but there are six I'm always at. I think two of those at one point had booth girls. They really aren't a thing outside of cons and consumer hand jobbery like E3.

What a lot of companies do is hire local hot chicks to man their booth in professional attire and hand shit out. You aren't getting tits and hot young girls out of that arena because men.

The Pedowood shit is just that...The Tomb Raider girl, Stewart, and Ridley all have boyish looks. This lets the old queens jack it to girls and appear normal while they are really fucking pedos.

Women fall for advertising so it is geared to them. Go listen to old radio shows. You had three ads: Cigarettes, Car shit, and bitch shit. The car ads were like Hey our shitty battery is better. while the bitch shit was Lux will make your hair look great and everyone will love you. Johnny will marry you and give you great missionary sex. You get the idea. Oh sorry and buy warbonds shit.

There's a certain amount of femization I'm sure but I think a lot of the fringe types are just taking the place of previous counter culture shit. Or something I dunno I lost interest halfway through typing this shit.
 

V0dka

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Few thoughts:

I hit six trade shows a year sometimes more but there are six I'm always at. I think two of those at one point had booth girls. They really aren't a thing outside of cons and consumer hand jobbery like E3.

What a lot of companies do is hire local hot chicks to man their booth in professional attire and hand shit out. You aren't getting tits and hot young girls out of that arena because men.

The Pedowood shit is just that...The Tomb Raider girl, Stewart, and Ridley all have boyish looks. This lets the old queens jack it to girls and appear normal while they are really fucking pedos.

Women fall for advertising so it is geared to them. Go listen to old radio shows. You had three ads: Cigarettes, Car shit, and bitch shit. Oh sorry and buy warbonds shit.

There's a certain amount of femization I'm sure but I think a lot of the fringe types are just taking the place of previous counter culture shit. Or something I dunno I lost interest halfway through typing this shit.

You sound drunker than me.
 

Lemmingwise

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You forget that women are in some ways a poorer investment as consumers, as they're far less loyal than men if you have a consistent product. More conducive to new trends and fads.

I don't think women are the perfect marketing vector; there's value in selling different products to different demographics.

Gilette's sales did not go up with their woke feminist advert.

Pepsi apologized for their ad.


The idea is being sold to corporations by marketing departments that it's a smart investment or a good ad, but that doesn not mean it aligns with reality. The most important thing in having market share is being the first. If you can't be the first, then it is to be different. It just means there is a space for male-focused products and advertising and those with desire to grow will take advantage of it.

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Of course they have to deal with the backlash, because both activists and competitors will try and prevent them from being able to do so.
Also look at the removal of booth babes. That's not different companies deciding it's not in their best economic interest to use booth babes, that's a mixture of outside activists and trade show hosts making rules forbidding it. There were always booths without booth babes, and booths with booth babes. For some products it was a boost, for some it was a detriment. The removal is not happening for economic reasons.

It's more of an alliance of circumstance.

This is the superficial layer of course.

There's also the long term plan to destroy gender/sex and a lot of this is also aligned with those plans.
 

V0dka

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You forget that women are in some ways a poorer investment as consumers, as they're far less loyal than men if you have a consistent product. More conducive to new trends and fads.

I don't think women are the perfect marketing vector; there's value in selling different products to different demographics.

Gilette's sales did not go up with their woke feminist advert.

Pepsi apologized for their ad.


The idea is being sold to corporations by marketing departments that it's a smart investment or a good ad, but that doesn not mean it aligns with reality. The most important thing in having market share is being the first. If you can't be the first, then it is to be different. It just means there is a space for male-focused products and advertising and those with desire to grow will take advantage of it.

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Of course they have to deal with the backlash, because both activists and competitors will try and prevent them from being able to do so.

It's more of an alliance of circumstance.

This is the superficial layer of course.

There's also the long term plan to destroy gender/sex and a lot of this is also aligned with those plans.

I agree that it doesn't always work, but I see them trying to find new ways to bring female consumers to market. Take Ghostbusters 2016 for example, from a marketing perspective it should make sense. We take the Ghostbusters IP, make it an all girl comedy team, we throw in Chris Hemsworth, and the Female Demo should eat it up, and buy all the tie in products.

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But it didn't quite pan out the way they wanted, back to the drawing board.
 

Lemmingwise

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I agree that it doesn't always work, but I see them trying to find new ways to bring female consumers to market. Take Ghostbusters 2016 for example, from a marketing perspective it should make sense. We take the Ghostbusters IP, make it an all girl comedy team, we throw in Chris Hemsworth, and the Female Demo should eat it up, and buy all the tie in products.

Except they forgot that women aren't funny.

And women buying tie-in products to their favorite movie? That's mostly male (autist) territory, isn't it?
 
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Most studies show that women are the primary consumers in society. In the majority of households, women decide what to buy and men decide how much to spend. It makes sense. However, that being said, we live and exist on the internet. 90% of people don't give half a fuck about any of the shit posted here. People, men and women alike, aren't part of woke culture. There's been a massive push from "industry experts" to cater to these woke policies and exclude traditional audiences with the premise that the younger, hip crowd will provide more money. Shareholders, not knowing a goddamn thing about the cultural divide, go along with it. Fortunately these companies are starting to lose their ass on these shifts and are starting to understand what makes money, which is a more traditional model.

I give it like a max of 5 more years of this bullshit before people start to revert back to what was keeping them in the black. Nobody wants to be Blizzard 2.0 where they have to lay off half their staff because they accidentally drove their fucking company into the dirt. People DO want to be the next CDPR that can pull millions of rabid fanatics to consume anything they produce. CDPR, which a little over a decade ago was a few dudes working in a dump in Poland, is now one of the most influential and successful video game companies on the planet. Don't think that the shareholders at EA, Take Two, Act-Bliz, etc aren't asking the CEO why the fuck they can't do that. It's only a matter of time.
 

V0dka

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Except they forgot that women aren't funny.

And women buying tie-in products to their favorite movie? That's mostly male (autist) territory, isn't it?

Male autists are too rare to be an effective marketing vector.

But Women...

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In fact you can get Women to buy all tie ins if you are able to grab the female demo, and they will show it off on social media as well, doubling the adversiting.
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Lemmingwise

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Male autists are too rare to be an effective marketing vector.

But Women...

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In fact you can get Women to buy all tie ins if you are able to grab the female demo, and they will show it off on social media as well, doubling the adversiting.

Yes, but what product do you tie-in to ghostbusters? Ghostbusters perfume? At best I can see a ghostbuster themed rollerblades for rollerderby or something. Hardly one of the female oriented markets with mass appeal.
 

V0dka

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Yes, but what product do you tie-in to ghostbusters? Ghostbusters perfume? At best I can see a ghostbuster themed rollerblades for rollerderby or something. Hardly one of the female oriented markets with mass appeal.

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If you can launch a Burger King perfume and a Wonder Woman perfume, you can surely launch a Ghostbusters perfume.

But think on a wider scale. Women have panties, bras, makeup, bags, purses, shoes, earrings, necklaces, armbands, dresses, skirts, tops, jackets, socks, leggings, little stupid keychains they have, phone cases, etc etc all ripe for marketing. A guy in an all themed outfit based on his favorite franchise looks like an autist. A girl looks like shes fashion aware.
 
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The Shadow

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Few thoughts:

I hit six trade shows a year sometimes more but there are six I'm always at. I think two of those at one point had booth girls. They really aren't a thing outside of cons and consumer hand jobbery like E3.

What a lot of companies do is hire local hot chicks to man their booth in professional attire and hand shit out. You aren't getting tits and hot young girls out of that arena because men.

The Pedowood shit is just that...The Tomb Raider girl, Stewart, and Ridley all have boyish looks. This lets the old queens jack it to girls and appear normal while they are really fucking pedos.

Women fall for advertising so it is geared to them. Go listen to old radio shows. You had three ads: Cigarettes, Car shit, and bitch shit. The car ads were like Hey our shitty battery is better. while the bitch shit was Lux will make your hair look great and everyone will love you. Johnny will marry you and give you great missionary sex. You get the idea. Oh sorry and buy warbonds shit.

There's a certain amount of femization I'm sure but I think a lot of the fringe types are just taking the place of previous counter culture shit. Or something I dunno I lost interest halfway through typing this shit.
Hey they also advertised fuel, like...

BLUE COAL!
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