ReflectiveSand68
kiwifarms.net
I was curious to hear your thoughts on the predominant view of culture and society that having a partner and exchanging intimacy, love, and sex is an important part of happiness. As Joseph Campbell said, one look at Abraham Maslow's "Hierarchy of Needs," (a good reflection on conventional views on the matter) with sex, comfort, physical security a higher priority than meaning, purpose, fulfillment and actualization, and this describes someone who has nothing to live for.
Most people would find it strange, regrettable, worthy of judging or at least pitiable if someone had never been been casually active or in a relationship before and didn't have any plans to for the foreseeable future. Views on this have altered throughout history of course, but predictably they usually take extremes. Saint Paul saw complete celibacy as the higher ideal, and marriage (the only alternative in pure Christianity) a compromise between a weak man with God of sorts. And from Greek stoics to Buddhists, the religious celibate or monk archetype has usually found a place in just about every culture and society.
I really don't want to get into this too much by using such terminology since it could distract from the point, but I do think that MGTOW/White Pill (as an answer to "inceldom") ideology is interesting to consider for this subject matter. Since it's an example of how internet culture has both responded and influenced the phenomena of present-day men who decide to simply embrace being alone. I think this is interesting because of course men who are perpetually single and don't necessarily get a lot of external social interaction or validation are going to find themselves on the internet all the time. I think this is also relevant to Kiwi Farms culture, as many such people, whether they are males, females, or of course that type we all know that decided to make themselves a bit harder to pin down, find themselves becoming lolcows.
Then there's the fact that some men find solace on the internet for the first time who have previously only faced social rejection from most peers or women in the past. I've never been in a relationship but honestly never felt that I was "lacking" as a result of it. I'm convinced that this pressure, and the view that someone who is single and content with being alone for a long period of time is an arbitrarily imposed fixture of society with little bearing on reality. I can be a passive observer, and I was always more inclined to notice how relationships caused people grief before I did happiness. (not that it isn't both.) And I've also seen that how much sexual activity some was or was not bearing had no bearing on how positive, friendly, or happy someone generally was. (...and if it seemed to make them more relaxed it was only momentary and untrustworthy.) I plan to be in a relationship one day, there's just no rush for it. I find it interesting how society seems to pressure and rush people into one, toward no end really but conformity or possibly just encouraging people to have kids and become one with the grid.
Most people would find it strange, regrettable, worthy of judging or at least pitiable if someone had never been been casually active or in a relationship before and didn't have any plans to for the foreseeable future. Views on this have altered throughout history of course, but predictably they usually take extremes. Saint Paul saw complete celibacy as the higher ideal, and marriage (the only alternative in pure Christianity) a compromise between a weak man with God of sorts. And from Greek stoics to Buddhists, the religious celibate or monk archetype has usually found a place in just about every culture and society.
I really don't want to get into this too much by using such terminology since it could distract from the point, but I do think that MGTOW/White Pill (as an answer to "inceldom") ideology is interesting to consider for this subject matter. Since it's an example of how internet culture has both responded and influenced the phenomena of present-day men who decide to simply embrace being alone. I think this is interesting because of course men who are perpetually single and don't necessarily get a lot of external social interaction or validation are going to find themselves on the internet all the time. I think this is also relevant to Kiwi Farms culture, as many such people, whether they are males, females, or of course that type we all know that decided to make themselves a bit harder to pin down, find themselves becoming lolcows.
Then there's the fact that some men find solace on the internet for the first time who have previously only faced social rejection from most peers or women in the past. I've never been in a relationship but honestly never felt that I was "lacking" as a result of it. I'm convinced that this pressure, and the view that someone who is single and content with being alone for a long period of time is an arbitrarily imposed fixture of society with little bearing on reality. I can be a passive observer, and I was always more inclined to notice how relationships caused people grief before I did happiness. (not that it isn't both.) And I've also seen that how much sexual activity some was or was not bearing had no bearing on how positive, friendly, or happy someone generally was. (...and if it seemed to make them more relaxed it was only momentary and untrustworthy.) I plan to be in a relationship one day, there's just no rush for it. I find it interesting how society seems to pressure and rush people into one, toward no end really but conformity or possibly just encouraging people to have kids and become one with the grid.
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