HBO's 'Confederate' Salt - Game of Thrones showrunners continue to mine more salt

[Lensherr]

Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have announced that their next show will be an alternate history science-fiction joint called Confederate. From the official announcement:

“Confederate” chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone – freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.

Production on “Confederate” will begin after the final season of “Game of Thrones.”

Season 7 of “Thrones” just began last weekend, premiering with record ratings. Season 8 is expected to debut in late 2018 or early 2019. Together, both seasons will span just 13 episodes.

Benioff and Weiss created “Confederate” and will serve showrunners, executive producers and writers, along with Nichelle Tramble Spellman (“Justified,” “The Good Wife”) and Malcolm Spellman (“Empire”), who will co-write the series and executive produce. “Game of Thrones” producers Carolyn Strauss and Bernadette Caulfield will also serve as executive producers.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hbo...eators-david-benioff-db-weiss-1202500538/amp/

The duo are no strangers to controversy, with GoT generating mountains of salt over its depictions of sexual violence (particularly the Season 5 rape of Sansa). But even the mere idea of this show was enough to whip people into a frothing rage:

http://amp.usatoday.com/story/495945001/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...confederate-show-this-is-a-horrible-idea/amp/

It's gotten so out of hand that the pair, alongside two of their partners in this endeavor, have had to respond:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/hbo-confederate-producers-exclusive-interview.html

 

[thepianogeniusfromshine]

OP, some screenshots would help.

 

[Mysterious Capitalist]

"Slavery is a concept too powerful to write fiction about it, regardless of taste"

"Let me tell you about that time a white male eye-raped me in the metro while I was bleeding profusely in my white pants"

 

[Lensherr]

OP, some screenshots would help.

Ask and ye shall receive:

 

[BatChatillon]

There has been an alternate timeline where the Confederates emerged victorious in the Civil War, but it lead to a stall situation in the World.

Taken from the GURPS Alternate Earths book (I know it's a RPG book). In this one there is a different balance of power, with the CSA and Britain/Commonwealth being one side and USA / German Empire the other. They made Atlanta the largest city on earth ("The Big Peach").

Making this a tv series is a great source of salt, in my opinion. I mean people were fine with The Man In The High Castle, where Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan occupied the USA, but I guess a setting where slavery is still a thing would the one show that makes SJWs, BLMs and whatever left-wing raise the banners.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

It's literally not, but okay.

So, apparently the show is going to be about a wonderful utopia rather than showing how awful it would be. Got it.

Who working on the show is saying that racism is okay because it could always be worse?

 

[Chill Fam]

Course, we'd all know how the SJWs and BLM would react if this was being made by a POC

 

[Loxiozzz]

Didn't even air yet and people are bitching about it. What happened to just not watching shows you don't like?

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Didn't even air yet and people are bitching about it. What happened to just not watching shows you don't like?

They have to ensure they never accidentally interact with anyone who watched an episode.

 

[Ruin]

So it's The Man In The High Castle but with toothless hicks instead of Nazis?

 

[SoberBlitz]

HBO is on a roll with pissing people off.

 

[Jeff Heaney]

> Roxanne Gay

Lmfao gay by name, gay by nature.

 

[His Dewliness]

"What if the confederacy won" seems to be a staple of alt-history stories second only to "What if the Nazis won". I'm genuinely surprised that a show like this hadn't happened earlier, alt-history in general is a gold mine for studios to adapt into tv shows or films.

Done well, there are a lot of alt-history stories that could be really interesting settings for tv miniseries. Unfortunately I suspect that this will not be done particularly well, still it should be good for some salt assuming people are still interested after it starts airing.

Slightly fftopic:: One of the most well known "what if the confederacy won" stories called "The Guns of the South" is based the idea that the confederacy won because time travelling white nationalist Afrikaners went back to the civil war era and gave Lee a shit load of AK-47's. I just want people to know that.

 

[The Nothingness]

There has been an alternate timeline where the Confederates emerged victorious in the Civil War, but it lead to a stall situation in the World.

Taken from the GURPS Alternate Earths book (I know it's a RPG book). In this one there is a different balance of power, with the CSA and Britain/Commonwealth being one side and USA / German Empire the other. They made Atlanta the largest city on earth ("The Big Peach").

Making this a tv series is a great source of salt, in my opinion. I mean people were fine with The Man In The High Castle, where Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan occupied the USA, but I guess a setting where slavery is still a thing would the one show that makes SJWs, BLMs and whatever left-wing raise the banners.

Cause the Japanese never made slaves of POWs and the native population from the countries they occupied. Remember, slavery was only used by white people

 

[CowReserach Inc.]

Game of Thrones showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have announced that their next show will be an alternate history science-fiction joint called Confederate. From the official announcement:


http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hbo...eators-david-benioff-db-weiss-1202500538/amp/

The duo are no strangers to controversy, with GoT generating mountains of salt over its depictions of sexual violence (particularly the Season 5 rape of Sansa). But even the mere idea of this show was enough to whip people into a frothing rage:

http://amp.usatoday.com/story/495945001/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...confederate-show-this-is-a-horrible-idea/amp/

It's gotten so out of hand that the pair, alongside two of their partners in this endeavor, have had to respond:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/hbo-confederate-producers-exclusive-interview.html

I feel like originally this mini-series was supposed to be "What if Trump won" but they had to go back and re-tool it to "What if Trump won in 1865"

 

[MrShitface]

The Confederacy is very quickly becoming a synonym for Nazis in the eyes of people who treat world history as little more than a distant memory of elementary school. These are the same people who would have an aneurysm if they found out the Nazis regularly cooperated with indigenous "colored" people (Indians, Africans, Japanese) or that the Civil War wasn't about "freeing the poor oppressed black people." It was at best a footnote in the vast scheme of the war, and not something people particularly gave a shit about.

This kike-enforced nationwide nigger fetish needs to come to an end.

 

[Hen in a tie]

Tfw when you just want to live in a safe bubble like the white supremacist/Nazis. Seriously expand your knowledge horizon.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Cause the Japanese never made slaves of POWs and the native population from the countries they occupied. Remember, slavery was only used by white people

But there was a ton of exploitation. Even in peacetime, they would've created an apartheid on non-Japanese natives since they revered themselves as "Divine".

 

[c-no]

Didn't even air yet and people are bitching about it. What happened to just not watching shows you don't like?

Why do that when you can just go on social media like Twitter and REEEEE over some TV show that isn't out yet. They'll try to justify it saying it's a show written by white guys or that it could downplay some POC actor, nevermind the fact that the guys behind this could of actually consulted Civil War historians and such while also possibly having a black actor play a huge key role in the show.

 

[Cripple]

I was under the impression that it's based on a play a black man wrote?