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Not only porn, but drawings of porn at high speed.

Here you go you poor weeb bastards I found this in 3 minutes, have fun.

That's not even weebshit you drunk bastard. Not only is it Overwatch porn, it's 3D animated; arguably the lowest form of the medium.

Anyway, there's like a 100 other sites you can find if you spend 10 minutes looking for them. You don't even have to pass the panda barrier for a lot of good stuff either.
Fuckin' normies.
 

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I don't understand why people use Fakku and HH when there is free hentai everywhere.

Hell, you can pretty easily go right to the source via twitter and pix.iv.

I don't know much about HH but I don't feel much sympathy. Wanting to become the "crunchyroll of hentai" and proudly admitting that is a big red flag.
 

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I doubt that piracy will ever be gone, but people grow up and some of them increase their income level, i.e. able to pay something for instant gratification instead of scrounging torrents. I just don't know how big that market really is.
As far as hentai goes? Not big at all, I'd imagine.

Porn seems to be one of those things where you stick to the way you originally acquired it. Like, you might hear about older men still subscribing to Playboy and buying DVDs at the porn store because that flows with their lifelong porn ritual, while people whose porn habits grew during the internet age never got into the flow of paying for porn. Downloading a torrent for many guys in their 30s feels natural, while going to a store and buying porn on physical media feels alien and embarrassing, in the same way a 60 year old might feel alienated and confused while trying to figure out how to get torrents to work, and ultimately not feeling as satisfied because torrents don't flow with his lifelong porno ritual.

The entire pornography industry failed to get an entire generation into the flow of paying for porn. It seems like most money exchanged for porn today is:
furries looking for absolute degenerate stuff to lust after
and like, guys who tip camgirls so they can get a fleeting "THANK YOU PENNISTHEMENACE69!!". You know, personalized content, because printing a girl's ass in a magazine just doesn't cut it these days. So, when the Millenials grow old and sexbots become a thing, you'll likely have a lot of guys stuck on the whole flow of tipping camgirls, because VR sexbots or whatever just don't do it for them.

Hentai only really ever blew up in the internet age, appealing to the crowd that largely doesn't pay for porn, so I'm not so sure if it'll ever be particularly profitable. Obviously, you can't get that same live interaction like you can with camgirls unless you had some kind of Kizuna AI-style setup, and animation is a lot more effort to produce than just filming a couple of people fucking their brains out. How many hentai animators can you name besides Zone? How much money does Zone make?
 

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Porn seems to be one of those things where you stick to the way you originally acquired it. Like, you might hear about older men still subscribing to Playboy and buying DVDs at the porn store because that flows with their lifelong porn ritual ...
lolwut? Do you think that oldtimers are looking for rotoscope, B&W pron?

pron, cars, movies ... people move along with time just fine, never mind when they started. I don't see VHS players anymore. Plenty of old faggots torrenting their collections.

The entire pornography industry failed to get an entire generation into the flow of paying for porn.
It's not really the pron that people pay for. For example, I remember when HD started to make into porn but movies were scarce on torrents, speeds were slow and monthly membership was less than a few days of coffee, I had a subscription going until things picked up and there were more choices for free. Porn is just part of the product, that includes convenience, interesting content etc. Simply repackaging same old shit into new media is not enticing to part money with people.

Hentai only really ever blew up in the internet age, appealing to the crowd that largely doesn't pay for porn, so I'm not so sure if it'll ever be particularly profitable. Obviously, you can't get that same live interaction like you can with camgirls unless you had some kind of Kizuna AI-style setup, and animation is a lot more effort to produce than just filming a couple of people fucking their brains out. How many hentai animators can you name besides Zone? How much money does Zone make?
I don't know shit about Hentai or people who watch it regularly, but like any tech, like CGI, it used to be crazy expensive to make until there was enough market and technology around to make it happen. Open source is a good example of many technology needs satisfied without there being a paying market. Of course cartoon media, just like non-porn shit, offers great flexibility of plot and characters. I can see in the future, VR and tech could offer interesting opportunities to indie Hentai and not film makers. The number of open source tools that do great job for 3d modeling, rendering and picture editing. Looking 10 years back, there was shit in that area. Now inkscape, blender ... so many packages that are free and fucking amazing in their depth and capabilities.
 
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I dunno, I think there is potential in an idea like this if you do it right and I can explain why.

See, if we're talking about hentai images and scans of hentai manga, then I don't see why anyone would be paying for that all. Just go to Rule 34 or turn the safe search off in Google Images. Especially since the stuff that's the most popular in that scene is fan art and doujin scans. That type of model is completely ineffective and a waste of money.

But what about hentai videos?

As fucked-up as this sounds, I could actually see there being a market for streaming full-length titles. Especially since most of the stuff you find on places like Pornhub is usually just clips and full-length movies are more likely to get taken down for copyright claims, especially if they are dubbed or subbed.

I could definitely see a small but viable market for those old 90's dubs that are so bad they're hilarious and they do have a sort of weird nostalgia value to them aside from being fap material.

It's a niche market, but if managed right, there's probably money in it.

Vintage porn collecting is a thing and the most sought after stuff are either the fucked-up printed stuff from the Victorian and Edwardian eras or the old "stag films" from the 1950's and 1960's when porn was illegal in most states.

However, there is a growing market for the old "Golden Age" porno movies from the 1970's and early 1980's, back when VHS was a brand new thing and you actually had to go to a theater in the bad part of town to see these movies.

Part of this is because of Boomer nostalgia and part of it is because a lot of titles that were made by smaller companies never made it to DVD and can be hard to find on the internet, and some of the ones from the 70's never even made it to VHS.

One of the biggest reasons why a lot of these titles falling into obscurity is largely due to the Mafia controlling a rather large chunk of the porn industry back then and a lot of the smaller and mid-sized companies went under following the major mob crackdowns in the late 80's and early 90's.

I do think that in about a decade or two, we're going to see a similar demand for old hentai movies from vintage porn collectors and old-school weebs, particularly those who are Gen X'ers and the oldest of the Millennials.

There is actually a few reasons as to why that is.

Dubbed hentai is completely dead since all the main companies that made them went under during the Great Recession and the few companies that are still around like Kitty Media or Critical Mass mostly exist so they can keep the rights to the stuff they already had back in the 1990's and early 2000's, and this applies to both subbed and dubbed stuff.

FYE and Suncoast used to be the one place where you could buy these VHS tapes and DVD's without having to go to a sex shop or trying to find them online, especially since online shopping wasn't as ubiquitous or reliable as it is now.

As many of you may remember, FYE always had that "Mature Entertainment" section near the back that was entirely an array of hentai and softcore titles (think Girls Gone Wild or late-night Cinemax programming) and IIRC, the hentai titles usually sold better than the live-action softcore titles. Even in the mid-2010's when FYE was dying out and the internet was everywhere, the ones nearest where I live still carried hentai DVD's and they actually were selling, though the best sellers were older regular anime DVD's and TV shows.

However, around 2017-2018, FYE officially stopped selling all adult entertainment. Whether this has to do with internet competition or some dumb culture war nonsense is anyone's guess, but it's falling into obscurity.

See, the Great Recession hurt the anime industry in America really hard and a lot of distributors went under. Around the same time, the anime fad bubble of the late 90's and early 2000's finally burst, with Adult Swim limiting anime to one night only and all the other cable anime blocks (like Sci-Fi Channel's AniMonday) getting cancelled by the beginning of the 2010's.

By the late 2000's, anime fandom had changed enough that none of the big players that survived the recession (like Funimation or Viz Media) wanted to touch the old hentai libraries of companies like ADV or Central Park Media, so a lot of those titles either fell into limbo or were bought up by Media Blasters or Right Stuff, who survived the recession by the narrowest of margins.

But here's the dirty little secret about the early anime fandom in America...hentai was a big part of it.

Hentai and Ecchi OVA's were a significant component of the anime fandom back in the 1990's and very early 2000's, both in terms of official dubs and the bootleg fansub community as well.

See, there was the "OVA Boom" that was going on in Japan during the 1980's and 1990's, and it was characterized by dark and violent works with lots of nudity, blood, and fanservice.

These were the kind of things that got prioritized by the distributors and dubbing companies back in the West, partly because of the surprise success of AKIRA and the whole novelty of animation that wasn't meant for kids.

Another factor is that OVA's were easier to do on a VHS format than full TV series, and the most sensational stuff was the kind of the stuff that usually got prioritized.

It was kind of like a weeb version of the exploitation films and "Video Nasties" of the 1970's and 1980's. Keep in mind that a lot of the hentai and ecchi stuff from back then also had a plot, so you could actually have a secondary reason to enjoy it, they were kind of like the old 70's porno films in that regard.

Even as kids anime like Pokemon and Sailor Moon started to gain traction on children's cartoon programming blocks in the late 90's and early 2000's, which gave us the bulk of the current generation of weebs, the dark fucked-up stuff was still popular among the fandom, both at conventions and clubs.

It really wouldn't fade out of the fandom completely until the generation that was introduced to anime through stuff like Toonami or things like Pokemon and Digimon started growing up and becoming the main force in the fandom.

TL;DR-A hentai version of Crunchyroll could be moderately successful if you keep the costs low and play up the "edgy 90's oldtaku" nostalgia angle, focusing on OVA's and movies instead of doujin scans/hentai drawings.
 
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