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It turns out that when you say "Read my lips: No New Taxes" and a tax increase happens... people aren't happy.
Here we go. Biden considering bringing Troops back to Iraq. -
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Well, if we're playing a dumbass "IF" game...
If Clinton had done more then jerk off onto interns dresses after Al-Queda attacked the WTC, or the USS Cole, or the embassies, then he wouldn't have done the WTC again.
Alternately: If Harambe hadn't been killed, we'd be living in a better timeline.
Reporterward
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Or...
We’d be living in an even WORSE timeline.
Has no one even seen the historical documents? It’s all there in “Planet of the Apes”
This also conveniently allowed shit to fester there long enough that someone decided we needed to go back again and I'm sure Halliburton wasn't complaining. If Saddam was an ever-present threat to the region then why pull out before destroying him? If he wasn't a big deal, why intervene in the first place?
I don't like mission creep and quagmires but it looks like we traded pain then for even more pain later.
Is everyone forgetting that the actual justification for the Iraq War was the fact that Saddam wouldn't let the inspectors inspect what they were supposed to inspect? He was given deadline after deadline to comply with the UN and failed to meet it each time, challenging the UN to do something about it? Remember Hans Blix or whatever the German tard's name was?
Or has that been conveniently swept under the rug?
Or has that been conveniently swept under the rug?
attractive_pneumonia
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No amount of acceptance by Iraq would have been acceptable for the Neo-cons. The war was already decided before they got into office. Colin Powell made a big show about "mobile production plants on trucks" and vehicles departing plants before inspectors showed up. There is a reason why the world viewed the Iraq War as bullshit, everyone sniffed out that the Bush admin was forcing it, this is why nobody bothered to show up to help except Britain.
At this point no cares and views any thing the government does with suspicion and believes its done with an ulterior motive.
It's not like he didn't have bio and chem capability back in '91, so why wasn't this dealt with then if it was a problem? I mean, Gulf War syndrome was a thing and it was almost certainly due to Saddam using chemical weapons in some capacity. It's generally a bad bet to let that kind of asshole sit and stew over being wrecked a decade ago because he's going to come back with a vengeance.
Long Answer: The chemical weapon and the biological weapon stocks were all seized and moved out. Units from several Ordnance units and ChemCorps units started blowing the stuff in place. The biowarfare samples were removed and taken back. Then the general pullout notification came and as part of the peace treat Iraq was supposed to destroy it all, since the production facilities had all been smart bombed to shit. Only they just buried that shit in the sand and refired up a few key plants. (Everyone that goes "hurr durr we sold them the weapons" is a fucking moron and can go sit down and shut the fuck up. The majority of y.pestis, botulusim, e.coli, and rubella had gone bad and Iraq was now working with their own stocks. The chemical weapons were Iraq built, often with precursor chemicals sold by the French and Canada) They gassed the Kurds several times in 1993 to the point that 1st Cav's Rapid Ready Brigades were loaded onto planes and flown to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. There was evidence of chemical weapons moving around quite a bit.
The big reason Iraq wasn't occupied is that our Arab Allies said no. If we went in, kicked ass, but left him personally in place, they would back the US and the allies. If we toppled him, they were out, and if they were out, Iran was in. Plus, we'd had enough of quagmires. The upper chain of command were all Vietnam vets who didn't want to refight the Vietnam War like a lot of stupid faggots did.
Short Answer: Napalm, artillery, flamethrowers, to destroy in place the BC portion of NBC. Some was sealed and shipped to Johnston Atoll and Turkey.
SHorter Answer: Because there were no good answers.
Times were different before the second invasion.
We didn't start wars by choice, We didn't use our military for regime changes. Of course we did horrifically shady and destructive shit through the CIA and proxies, but our military was still viewed as the "good guys". The only existential threat was communism, and not many people were worried about that anymore. We intervened because unprovoked foreign invasions were not generally tolerated by most of the world then. That and Kuwait was a major oil supplier. Oh, and it gave us a chance to get back for the USS Stark (even though we didn't seem to care much when it happened).
The mission did start to creep with the establishment of the no-fly zones. And there a few preemptive deployments to Kuwait whenever Saddam would move his army around. But he wasn't viewed as a huge threat after the first war. He was a beat dude that we just needed to keep our eye on.
I didn't know a single person who thought we were really going to invade Iraq the second time. We all though it was just bluster. Even after 9/11 "the US just didn't start wars without provocation" we thought. The Neo-Cons proved us wrong.
The pain we got with the second invasion was entire by choice. It didn't have to happen. Bush Sr. and Clinton couldn't have predicted that W. and his crew would be who they were, when they were.
I can't figure out how to remove quotes once they're added.
Well, looks like America's about to rawdog the hornet's nest we call the Middle East once again. But hey, it's the good guys doing it this time, so it's definitely okay now.
Sekirodiealot
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I can't wait for the "At least he's not trump" excuses
those poor goat farmers have had it way too easy
WhimsicalTrolli
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They already saying it.
Really, he lost to Perot and gave the election to Clinton. Same thing Nader did to Gore in 2000.
Find me an unbombed child in Iraq and I'll show you an unraped child in Britain.
Protip: You can't
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