Disaster Hillary Clinton considered moving to New Zealand after election - “I received a number of invitations from Kiwis to permanently relocate here.”

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Does freedom scare you? It seems to.

I don't know if you're only pretending to be retarded, but you're doing a good job of convincing me you are.

By the way, neck yourself. America = No.1
Does "freedom" scare me.?? First off the shooter's book COULD possibly be banned legally in the USA.

Regarding his manuscript
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action Tarrant says repeatedly that the best time to kill immigrants was yesterday and the second best is NOW. Therefore a lawyer could possibly successfully argue that the book advocated illegal action imminently. "Likely" might be slightly harder to argue I grant you, but it is possible a state might successfully ban it.

(I'm going to use the world "you" several times it does not mean "you" as in anyone in particular I'm just kind of using it like "one," or using it to talk about some stuff I don't believe in that some people here (perhaps most believe.)

New Zealand's last mass shooting was 1990. while the USA has one every week. The USA has to have whole separate Wikipedia pages from the rest of the world to cover all the mass shootings, school shootings, and serial killers. I open up my news feed and see the first story is some guy threw a five year old from the third story of the Mall Of America.

Do you enjoy being bankrupted for your health care and education and being crushed under the boot of big corporations with your PATHETICALLY low, worst in the first world, minimum wage and your lack of a real welfare safety net if you get laid off? Maybe for one of those third world immigrants you're so worried about, that will take lower wages than they THINK you will and they don't even take the chance on finding out if you'd go lower?

Yes you do because you've been brainwashed against your tax dollars going on anything that might actually benefit your life in any way. Smart! What a con you have bought. All the anti moderate socialism mixed with capitalism shit is such a big con for people in the USA. Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is the best system in the world for the best quality of life, although it sucks slightly for the 1% maybe and that's it. And maybe two people on this board are in the one percent (lol) or maybe zero, but all the rest lap up that propaganda like dogs do their own vomit. I saw all the conformists here ranting "get ajob job job" in the NEET thread. And bashing the high paying profession of prostitution, and even trying to claim drawing furry porn is not a legitimate job. Rebels you are not.

Those of you who blame immigrants aren't really thinking straight. It's not the immigrants it's the government's immigration polices.

You buy the con that it's so great that Trump is making a big populist show of how he's going to do something about the teeny tiny percentage of third world people managing to get across the border, when he's fully supports bringing in as many third world immigrants as they can to take jobs so wages and salaries can be bottom dollar and big corporations and the government can be happy. And that's the one thing I actually agreed with the Australian shooter in Christchurch about was what a con it is when you say "as long as their willing to WORK the flood can be endless" and of course Republicans are saying that not just Democrats neither the left or the right has any interest in stopping that for their own short term gain and your loss. That's not the immigrants' fault, they just want a better life like everyone.

As for the huge importance you place on being a dick on the internet without restrictions it is really is not that important, nor is it the big freedom threat you want to make it. I get the theoretical concerns, but none of the nice first world countries that fine people for terrorizing twelve year olds till they kill themselves, has turned into communist Russia. Nor do I believe that it's a slippery slope for those very minor concessions to decency.

Meanwhile mah freedom of speech is SO important you should kill yourself if you have a different opinion. ?

Who the fuck cares about the shooters video? If you crave gore porn there's plenty out there for you. The book on the other hand, it's a little worrying that it's so severely banned. although it straight up is a call for people to immediately go out and kill many many specifically named groups, including children. Justifications for murdering children are outlined, various methods of mass murder are outlined and not only that but the media are lying that it's "confused, rambling, incoherent", it was none of those things. I am conflicted about this. It was a bit of a shock to me that it was banned, I really thought it was a troll at first when I saw someone trying to sell it Amazon claiming that. It's since been removed from Amazon. I did not buy it it was out there free. I did not read it on this forum. I get their reasoning for the ban, but not sure I agree with it.

I hope you appreciate my adding a little variety and counterbalance to your circle jerk, for the day.

Epilogue
I'm sure i"m late to the party but lol at how the media are roasting this place and the owner. "Incels refuse to hand over data." ? And I better not even mention the long list of crimes they've claimed Null has done. Must be a hell of a week for getting clicks on whatever advertising I'd be subjected to if I didn't have ad block.
 
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Coldgrip

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Does "freedom" scare me.?? First off the shooter's book COULD possibly be banned legally in the USA. You don't appear to be aware that the US supreme court has several free speech exceptions to the First Amendment. It's not quite the anything goes world you think it is. It's not just child porn and direct threats.

Regarding his manuscript
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action Tarrant says repeatedly that the best time to kill immigrants was yesterday and the second best is NOW. Therefore a lawyer could possibly successfully argue that the book advocated illegal action imminently. "Likely" might be slightly harder to argue I grant you, but it is possible a state might successfully ban it.

Otherwise

The obscenity one sure can be some bullshit at times.

(I'm going to use the world "you" several times it does not mean "you" as in anyone in particular I'm just kind of using it like "one," or using it to talk about some stuff I don't believe in that some people here (perhaps most believe.)

I am an American citizen. New Zealand's last mass shooting was 1990. while the USA has one every week. The USA has to have whole separate Wikipedia pages from the rest of the world to cover all the mass shootings, school shootings, and serial killers. I open up my news feed and see the first story is some guy threw a five year old from the third story of the Mall Of America.

Do you enjoy being bankrupted for your health care and education and being crushed under the boot of big corporations with your PATHETICALLY low, worst in the first world, minimum wage and your lack of a real welfare safety net if you get laid off? Maybe for one of those third world immigrants you're so worried about, that will take lower wages than they THINK you will and they don't even take the chance on finding out if you'd go lower?

Yes you do because you've been brainwashed against your tax dollars going on anything that might actually benefit your life in any way. Smart! What a con you have bought. All the anti moderate socialism mixed with capitalism shit is such a big con for people in the USA. Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is the best system in the world for the best quality of life, although it sucks slightly for the 1% maybe and that's it. And maybe two people on this board are in the one percent (lol) or maybe zero, but all the rest lap up that propaganda like dogs do their own vomit. I saw all the conformists here ranting "get ajob job job" in the NEET thread. And bashing the high paying profession of prostitution, and even trying to claim drawing furry porn is not a legitimate job. Rebels you are not.

Those of you who blame immigrants aren't really thinking straight. It's not the immigrants it's the government's immigration polices.

You buy the con that it's so great that Trump is making a big populist show of how he's going to do something about the teeny tiny percentage of third world people managing to get across the border, when he's fully supports bringing in as many third world immigrants as they can to take jobs so wages and salaries can be bottom dollar and big corporations and the government can be happy. And that's the one thing I actually agreed with the Australian shooter in Christchurch about was what a con it is when you say "as long as their willing to WORK the flood can be endless" and of course Republicans are saying that not just Democrats neither the left or the right has any interest in stopping that for their own short term gain and your loss. That's not the immigrants' fault, they just want a better life like everyone.

I used to defend the USA all the time from everyone, but don't you agree it's turned into the real shithole of the first world if we're honest? As for the huge importance you place on being a dick on the internet without restrictions it is really is not that important, nor is it the big freedom threat you want to make it. I get the theoretical concerns, but none of the nice first world countries that fine people for terrorizing twelve year olds till they kill themselves, has turned into communist Russia. Nor do I believe that it's a slippery slope for those very minor concessions to decency.

Meanwhile mah freedom of speech is SO important you should kill yourself if you have a different opinion. ?

Who the fuck cares about the shooters video? If you crave gore porn there's plenty out there for you. The book on the other hand, it's a little worrying that it's so severely banned. although it straight up is a call for people to immediately go out and kill many many specifically named groups, including children. Justifications for murdering children are outlined, various methods of mass murder are outlined and not only that but the media are lying that it's "confused, rambling, incoherent", it was none of those things. I am conflicted about this. It was a bit of a shock to me that it was banned, I really thought it was a troll at first when I saw someone trying to sell it Amazon claiming that. It's since been removed from Amazon. I did not buy it it was out there free. I did not read it on this forum. I get their reasoning for the ban, but not sure I agree with it.

I hope you appreciate my adding a little variety and counterbalance to your circle jerk, for the day.

Epilogue
I'm sure i"m late to the party but lol at how the media are roasting this place and the owner. "Incels refuse to hand over data." ? And I better not even mention the long list of crimes they've claimed Null has done. Must be a hell of a week for getting clicks on whatever advertising I'd be subjected to if I didn't have ad block.
TL: DR

You salty.

If you don't like it so badly you can always leave. I don't care about your concerns, nor do I care about whether you feel safe.
 

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TL: DR

You salty.

If you don't like it so badly you can always leave. I don't care about your concerns, nor do I care about whether you feel safe.
What am I supposed to be salty about exactly? And where did I mention my safety or concens other than saying that while you all whine and cry about the video and book being banned you may have a slight point about the book. Your reading comprehension sure seems to be lacking.
 
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Coldgrip

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What am I supposed to be salty about exactly? And where did I mention my safety or concens other than saying that while you all whine and cry about the video and book being banned you may have a slight point about the book. Your reading comprehension sure seems to be lacking.
Odd you say that, when all I said was that New Zealand deserved Hillary and you launched into an autistic tantrum about how we don't need certain freedoms because reasons.

why's this gay shit happening in a year old news thread?
New Zealand sucks and deserves Hillary, some guy gets salty and posts a wall of text crying about it while saying America sucks and that we should stop being dicks on the internet because kids might kill themselves.
 

polonium

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"In New Zealand everything is free" because nobody pays taxes I guess ?
 

Marvin

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Regarding his manuscript
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action Tarrant says repeatedly that the best time to kill immigrants was yesterday and the second best is NOW. Therefore a lawyer could possibly successfully argue that the book advocated illegal action imminently. "Likely" might be slightly harder to argue I grant you, but it is possible a state might successfully ban it.
That's not how US law works.

"Imminent lawless action" means that hiring someone to kill your wife isn't constitutionally protected speech just because you spoke words.

The lawless action inspired has to be literal, immediate and specific. Like being the leader of a criminal gang.
Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is the best system in the world for the best quality of life
The most important measure of quality of life is freedom. Socialism is dehumanizing.
 
If you define socialism that broadly it really is meaningless as a term.
Well if a government provides "socialized" programs then it is partly socialist. Socialized police, socialized schooling, these are not things all governments provide. For some reason we have a socialized parcel delivery service.

If you try to define "moderate" so narrowly as to only mean "extreme" then it's meaningless as a term. Moderate socialism is baked into western democracy, and just because we take it for granted doesn't make it not socialism.
 
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Socialism is not just when governments do stuff. It's when wealth is redistributed by force (the first part happens for those examples) to make things more "equal". Schools and roads are not socialism. Minimum wage is.
 
Socialism is not just when governments do stuff. It's when wealth is redistributed by force (the first part happens for those examples) to make things more "equal". Schools and roads are not socialism. Minimum wage is.
Hmm, well perhaps we're just disagreeing between "Socialized democracy" and "Socialism". It's a bit of a moving target. Socialism can mean using socialist economic theory, so in that sense, the post office is an example of socialism.

Whether or not the things in question existed before the government took control of them doesn't seem relevant to whether it's socialist or not, although they certainly are relevant to whether it's ethical or not. But if "Miss Diasy's child education service" existed before "Public schools" doesn't that mean the government socialized education? Many countries have private roads with the companies that own them charging their own tolls. In the US, we don't, it's socialized.
 
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