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- Mar 26, 2013
As with the private Facebook leaks last year, it seems that Chris' outburst last week has flipped the script with regard to public attitudes. I've noticed several people mention that they've reconsidered whatever sympathy they once had for him, I've seen others say he will and/or needs to go to jail, and a few other sentiments have been thrown out there that people probably wouldn't have been willing to say beforehand.
One thing that I know this past incident proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is this; Chris learned absolutely nothing. A year's probation and GodBear only knows how many
dollars on court costs later, Chris has not learned a single thing; he hasn't even found a way to manage his behavior any better, if anything it's even worse now than it was before. I don't know what kind of grip Barb has on Chris' routine now, but this whole debacle has made me think of something. Before last week, whenever Barb's "hoarding" of Chris was mentioned, most people responded sympathetically, one person even likening it to child abuse. Rightfully so, it's incredibly selfish to keep your child in the same room with you twelve hours out of the day if isn't arguably for their own good, but this is where I'm caught on something; is it for Chris' good in the end? I'm not talking about Barb's motivation, there's been plenty of logical, sound arguments that she's doing it out of pure batshit craziness and little else.
I'm just talking about the results.
People have said that they'd like to see Chris at least get out and have some kind of life outside of 14BC, but we've seen how it goes down when that does actually happen. Grade-school era degenerate behavior, ban-hammers, confrontations and, in worst case scenarios, arrests. It happened in his clownshirt days and, apparently, still happens today. It all comes full circle, I guess. Chris isn't capable of acting like a normal human being in public anymore than he's capable of acting like an adult or learning from his mistakes. Even if he keeps to himself the majority of the time he's out somewhere, the second he sees something he can interpret as provocation, he's likely to act out and get himself into trouble all over again.
So, the question is this; even if you think Barb's "hoarding" of Chris is fucked up and psychologically damaging, how would you prefer he live while she's still kicking? Do you want Chris to be locked up all day with Barb, utterly miserable but at least out of trouble with the law, or would you prefer he be allowed to leave the house more frequently, where he's more likely to be a public nuisance, making other people's lives worse off?
Also, since there was never a dedicated thread for it, feel free to dump your opinions/attitudes of OPL and how they've changed since last week, assuming they have at all.
One thing that I know this past incident proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is this; Chris learned absolutely nothing. A year's probation and GodBear only knows how many
dollars on court costs later, Chris has not learned a single thing; he hasn't even found a way to manage his behavior any better, if anything it's even worse now than it was before. I don't know what kind of grip Barb has on Chris' routine now, but this whole debacle has made me think of something. Before last week, whenever Barb's "hoarding" of Chris was mentioned, most people responded sympathetically, one person even likening it to child abuse. Rightfully so, it's incredibly selfish to keep your child in the same room with you twelve hours out of the day if isn't arguably for their own good, but this is where I'm caught on something; is it for Chris' good in the end? I'm not talking about Barb's motivation, there's been plenty of logical, sound arguments that she's doing it out of pure batshit craziness and little else. I'm just talking about the results.
People have said that they'd like to see Chris at least get out and have some kind of life outside of 14BC, but we've seen how it goes down when that does actually happen. Grade-school era degenerate behavior, ban-hammers, confrontations and, in worst case scenarios, arrests. It happened in his clownshirt days and, apparently, still happens today. It all comes full circle, I guess. Chris isn't capable of acting like a normal human being in public anymore than he's capable of acting like an adult or learning from his mistakes. Even if he keeps to himself the majority of the time he's out somewhere, the second he sees something he can interpret as provocation, he's likely to act out and get himself into trouble all over again.
So, the question is this; even if you think Barb's "hoarding" of Chris is fucked up and psychologically damaging, how would you prefer he live while she's still kicking? Do you want Chris to be locked up all day with Barb, utterly miserable but at least out of trouble with the law, or would you prefer he be allowed to leave the house more frequently, where he's more likely to be a public nuisance, making other people's lives worse off?
Also, since there was never a dedicated thread for it, feel free to dump your opinions/attitudes of OPL and how they've changed since last week, assuming they have at all.
yet gets frustrated by manajerks and jerkcops when he escapes her clutches. 
