Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) aka Attention Whores - Social Media and enabling of a disease. Based Lolcow

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It actually exists. A diagnosed, psychological condition for people who can't stop seeking asspats and saying outlandish shit for attention.

Taken from Wiki:
People with HPD are usually high-functioning, both socially and professionally. They usually have good social skills, despite tending to use them to manipulate others into making them the center of attention.[4] HPD may also affect a person's social and romantic relationships, as well as their ability to cope with losses or failures. They may seek treatment for clinical depression when romantic (or other close personal) relationships end.[citation needed]

Individuals with HPD often fail to see their own personal situation realistically, instead dramatizing and exaggerating their difficulties. They may go through frequent job changes, as they become easily bored and may prefer withdrawing from frustration (instead of facing it). Because they tend to crave novelty and excitement, they may place themselves in risky situations. All of these factors may lead to greater risk of developing clinical depression.[5]

Additional characteristics may include:

  • Exhibitionist behavior
  • Constant seeking of reassurance or approval
  • Excessive sensitivity to criticism or disapproval
  • Pride of own personality and unwillingness to change, viewing any change as a threat
  • Inappropriately seductive appearance or behavior of a sexual nature
  • Using somatic symptoms (of physical illness) to garner attention
  • A need to be the center of attention
  • Low tolerance for frustration or delayed gratification
  • Rapidly shifting emotional states that may appear superficial or exaggerated to others
  • Tendency to believe that relationships are more intimate than they actually are
  • Making rash decisions[4]
  • Blaming personal failures or disappointments on others
  • Being easily influenced by others, especially those who treat them approvingly
  • Being overly dramatic and emotional[6]
  • Influenced by the suggestions of others[7]
Some people with histrionic traits or personality disorder change their seduction technique into a more maternal or paternal style as they age

Aside from the "usually high functioning..." Look at those bullet points of characteristics. It's practically a blueprint for a lolcow.

And here's the WHO's description of the disease:

A personality disorder characterized by:

  • shallow and labile affectivity,
  • self-dramatization,
  • theatricality,
  • exaggerated expression of emotions,
  • suggestibility,
  • egocentricity,
  • self-indulgence,
  • lack of consideration for others,
  • easily hurt feelings, and
  • continuous seeking for appreciation, excitement and attention.

I'm not saying all of them could be diagnosed with this, but let's face it. The majority of people we document and mock on this site exhibit 95% of those behaviors like clockwork.

This bring me to my point about social media. I think this disease is a good description of one of the effects of too much Twitter/tumblr/facebook, especially at an early age.

There's a documented, physiological link between social media approval and the release of dopamine. The need for dopamine is addictive, changing the chemistry of your brain over time, driving you to seek out that interaction and approval on a greater scale. Starting at a young age, during adolescent years when this type of behavior begins to exhibit itself, surely contributes heavily to becoming someone who could be diagnosed with this.

I'm not saying social media addiction causes this disease, but god damn if there isn't a mountain of correlation here.

That's it. Just thought it was an interesting disease that I've never seen discussed here but seems to be applicable to so many lolcows.
 

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In the days of yesteryear these antisocial types that counterintuitively seek attention would have just been the weirdos within normal society, needing to seek real world social interaction for validation and finding a social life along the way.

The problem is the internet enables these social deficients to withdraw from a relatively normal social life... forcing them deeper and deeper into a dark void of autism and furfag pron. It is at the bottom of this pitty pit where we the true internet deviants lurk.
 

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OP I'm afraid you're severely misreading what histrionic personality is. It's much more about constant thrill-seeking behavior and a constant need for stimulus.

I'm not sure how but the way you read HPD is literally what NPD is (narcissism). They are entirely different things and I don't think there's any intrinsic comorbidity between them.

Yeah, all cows are narcissists (except maybe a few skitzocows) but I can't name a single cow on this site who is legit HPD. Quite on the contrary, to be featured here they need to live their lives largely online.

I'm not saying there are no HPD cows on the website, I don't keep up with all the threads but the correct diagnosis of HPD compared to your typical lolcow profile are (to some extent, at least) incompatible.
 

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Histrionic Personality Disorder is a sibling of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and Borderline Personality Disorder. Those four are the "Cluster Bs."

Strategies for interacting with cluster Bs are about the same across the board: don't, if you can avoid it
 

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IMO, social media doesn't cause or even exacerbate disordered personalities. What it does is it gives them an opportunity to declare themselves, seek their own level, and give you all the warnings you need to avoid having them fuck your life up along with theirs.
 

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social media

In all honesty, networks like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and similar are not the cause, but a consequence of western culture being highly narcissistic - to the extent many if not most people have some degree or another of pathological narcissism. Yeah, they help to maintain the status-quo but not anymore than culture in general (anything from celebrity worshiping to internal workplace competition).

We only have Facebook because some narcissistic Doucheberg thought "hey all my narcissistic friends would really like this" and other narcissists jumped on board too until it became what it is. No one came up with the idea to "make people more narcissistic". It just fit right in to how people already were like.

The agenda of the "American Dream", baby boomer culture and overall media were/are much more of active attempts to turn people egotistical and shallow but even then it's highly debatable tinfoil-level arguments.

Those four are the "Cluster Bs."

Great point but I'm still going to double down on the fact that HPD and NPD are really not the same thing.
 

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OP I'm afraid you're severely misreading what histrionic personality is. It's much more about constant thrill-seeking behavior and a constant need for stimulus.

I'm not sure how but the way you read HPD is literally what NPD is (narcissism). They are entirely different things and I don't think there's any intrinsic comorbidity between them.

Yeah, all cows are narcissists (except maybe a few skitzocows) but I can't name a single cow on this site who is legit HPD. Quite on the contrary, to be featured here they need to live their lives largely online.

I'm not saying there are no HPD cows on the website, I don't keep up with all the threads but the correct diagnosis of HPD compared to your typical lolcow profile are (to some extent, at least) incompatible.
They're similar enough that I don't understand the difference between them despite trying to.
 

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As a very broad stroke, HPD is an adrenaline/hype junkie while NPD is a praise/validation junkie. The narcissist is very controlling and manipulative (especially of their reputation) while a histrionic is much more of a "whatever goes", in the moment, YOLO sort of person - except they need to live on the edge at all times.

A histrionic's life goal would be a rock star who dies from an overdose at 27 after a smash-hit world tour. A narcissist's life goal would be become president of the United States of America, Elon Musk or Steve Jobs.

In that sense, they're not that similar or even compatible although YMMV of course. You could say it's the same underlying need for attention but acted upon in different ways... but again, very broad stroke, etc...
 

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As a very broad stroke, HPD is an adrenaline/hype junkie while NPD is a praise/validation junkie. The narcissist is very controlling and manipulative (especially of their reputation) while a histrionic is much more of a "whatever goes", in the moment, YOLO sort of person - except they need to live on the edge at all times.

A histrionic's life goal would be a rock star who dies from an overdose at 27 after a smash-hit world tour. A narcissist's life goal would be become president of the United States of America, Elon Musk or Steve Jobs.

In that sense, they're not that similar or even compatible although YMMV of course. You could say it's the same underlying need for attention but acted upon in different ways... but again, very broad stroke, etc...
this is actually not true and a backwards way of how HPD is either way. OP's POV of it is correct as that IS what HPD is. you are thinking of just a normal attention seeking person who likes a good adrenaline rush. a lot of HPD behaviors praise/validation based but the person does not have the same self grandiose delusion of worth as someone with NPD. Their self esteem replies on others while NPD does not. meaning they need that validation from others to have a self esteem not fuel it. yet, they can also be manipulative just like a person with NPD or BPD for that matter.

HPD has some similar traits to NPD but not enough to be the exact same for the actions of the person is very different. this is a better summary of traits. from cleveland clinic.
  • Be uncomfortable unless he or she is the center of attention
  • Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior
  • Shift emotions rapidly
  • Act very dramatically—as though performing before an audience—with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity
  • Be overly concerned with physical appearance
  • Constantly seek reassurance or approval
  • Be gullible and easily influenced by others
  • Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval
  • Have a low tolerance for frustration and be easily bored by routine, often beginning projects without finishing them or skipping from one event to another
  • Not think before acting
  • Make rash decisions
  • Be self-centered and rarely show concern for others
  • Have difficulty maintaining relationships, often seeming fake or shallow in their dealings with others
  • Threaten or attempt suicide to get attention
while NPD. sadly this is from mayoclinic since no one likes to list the traits properly.
  • Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  • Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
  • Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
  • Exaggerate achievements and talents
  • Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
  • Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
  • Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
  • Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
  • Take advantage of others to get what they want
  • Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
  • Be envious of others and believe others envy them
  • Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
  • Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
HPD is based on attention seeking in a way to draw attention to the person to give them a self esteem while NPD is based on fueling it and delusions of grandeur. HPD patients often have a HIGH victim complex along with some narc moments but is not in anyway the way you described it nor it is just like NPD despite very distinct and like wise traits.

my mother has HPD clinically. she does not admit to this diagnosis but has been given it. i have researched her diagnosis over my life time to understand it better and separate her from her dox but thats hard when it IS a personality disorder.
may i add the bounds a person with HPD will go for attention won't just stop at using themselves to get it but will go on to using their children and other people. it can span from demonizing the person for the victim complex that comes with HPD or it can be just for pure spite. HPD also is commonly confused with munchausen syndrome as some people will make themselves ill for attention and have the HPD dox along with by proxy through children. people with HPD will doctor shop if this is how they attention seek. like i said. very munchie like and often can be both.

HPD IS ATTENTION SEEKING AND VALIDATION SEEKING not thrill seeking. that's just being an idiot.
rate me mad on the internet but there's a difference between being a thrill seeking idiot and a dramatic whore who will do whatever for their self esteem boost that others will praise aka being a lolcow.
 
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OP I'm afraid you're severely misreading what histrionic personality is. It's much more about constant thrill-seeking behavior and a constant need for stimulus.

I'm not sure how but the way you read HPD is literally what NPD is (narcissism). They are entirely different things and I don't think there's any intrinsic comorbidity between them.

Yeah, all cows are narcissists (except maybe a few skitzocows) but I can't name a single cow on this site who is legit HPD. Quite on the contrary, to be featured here they need to live their lives largely online.

I'm not saying there are no HPD cows on the website, I don't keep up with all the threads but the correct diagnosis of HPD compared to your typical lolcow profile are (to some extent, at least) incompatible.
Disagree with that. Although there is no INTRINSIC co-morbidity, there is high co-morbidity in actuality. And although they may be sub-threshold for either HPD or NPD, pretty much everyone made fun of here exhibits traits of both disorders which may not make it to the level of the diagnostic assessment, but are exhibiting those behaviors to a level which those disorders accurately describe, even if they don't fulfill the diagnostic criteria.

Also, other than @Judge Holden and @Sissy Galvez, you have my favorite avatar on this site.
 
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