I want to rate this "Agreeptimisticfeels"I would not have a problem, in principle, with a ladies-only night/event/club if not for the fact that every time the men try to have their own space they get sued until women are allowed in.
So no, no exclusionary game nights for you.
The problem is that, by and large, no one is causing a problem. What you have are essentially two groups of shy, awkward people who don't know how to interact with the other sex. The solution would be to have a DM or someone on the staff there to make everybody comfortable and open people up, not blaming men because a bunch of awkward women are too nervous to act normal around a bunch of equally awkward dudes.Why wouldn't it just be better for everyone to erase that nonsense from their A-board and write "ALL are welcome". Then toss the people who are genuinely causing a problem. I don't see how artificially creating division is better than nurturing an environment where people know that when they walk in the door they're going to be given the same respect as anyone or they can fuck off back to wherever regardless of their skin pigment or what's hanging between their legs.
No problem with it. But if the standard we're using these days is "to make <X> feel comfortable" then there's really no reason not to have a whites-only night too.What are your thoughts on banning all men from stores so that female-identified patrons feel comfortable?
"We prioritize offenders. If you're groped by a dainty delicate xirself, we will do nothing because dainty delicate xirselves can't offend by definition. If you're groped by a man, we will do nothing because you were asking for it by showing up on men's day. Every day is men's day unless indicated otherwise."So question: What are your thoughts on banning all men from stores so that female-identified patrons feel comfortable?
We expect you & the OP to show up on Ladies Night and take pictures.I know of the shop.
I'm fine with the idea of a girls night for D&D. But the sign is incredibly tactless, and just makes the whole thing oh so tiring.
I have the World of Warcraft board game and it has over 1000 pieces(cards/figures/dice). It only takes 4 hours to play!They should run these women’s groups all week, tire them out, and then on the sabbath they should break out the super autistic shit
This is a good point. Women are usually better socially than men, but we're talking about women who'd voluntarily go to a den of nerdom and autism like a game store. I'm imagining a room full of Megan Schroeders.The problem is that, by and large, no one is causing a problem. What you have are essentially two groups of shy, awkward people who don't know how to interact with the other sex. The solution would be to have a DM or someone on the staff there to make everybody comfortable and open people up, not blaming men because a bunch of awkward women are too nervous to act normal around a bunch of equally awkward dudes.
Nerds are known for their passitivity, and open conflict in actually confronting or kicking someone out of the store is something they don't want to deal with. Also, maybe owners are hesitant to kick out paying customers in today's retail environment? Game stores are already niche, and the internet is ever eating into profits, so if the guy's a whale it might be better to just let him stay. And troons, of course, have their own issues that you don't want to touch lest you end up harassed and your store's reputation trashed by assmad castrati.Sounds like a Geek Social Fallacy. 'We can't exclude the men who are being problems. So we exclude all the men, so no-one feels like they're targeted!'
In my experience gaming groups are terrible at policing bad players and the larger they get the worse they get at it. The current problem I've been seeing has been mostly troon/snowflake-driven, and is all about giving people fifty different ways to express their discomfort with a game, none of them involving actually saying anything. So they inevitably involve the whole group having to deal with the problems (or 'problems') of one player. This includes essentially giving a heckler's veto to any plot or character stuff they might not want, simply because they can't be expected to own their personal shit, which means it affects everyone else.
If there's really men who are making women feel unsafe, identify them as people rather than as representative of their gender and deal with them. Don't treat all men as guilty and incapable of learning, and don't treat women and 'women' as too fragile.
I don't have anything against a ladies' night in theory, but in my experience once you're allowing the enbies and the troons then it stops being about women just having time to themselves and being encouraged in a hobby they might love but be nervous about entering, or just enjoying the company of their fellow female roleplayers. Instead, it becomes about kicking out those dangerous, gross men and finally being free of the shackles of patriarchy ... and ignoring that there's a number of biological men enjoying being 'just one of the girls' a bit too much for comfort, because unless they're very lucky, they are dealing with a few people with some deep-seated misogyny.
Of course, it could be the former. I'd guess there weren't many trans or troons in Hobart.