How Do We Stop Americans From Kililing Each Other? - Yes It's A Poll Thread

Do We, Ban Guns?


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Baby Jane Hudson

But ya are in that chair, Blanche, ya are.
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Do a lot of people in the US think this? I am not an American, I live in Canada and we have to have a license for firearms. There are several classes of licenses for various types of firearms. One thing I have noticed is that the firearms laws vary from state to state. In Canada it is one set of rules for the entire country - the provinces and cities can not enact different laws. What is legal on one side of the country, is legal on the other side.
I'm not sure about a lot of Americans feeling that way about licensing, but that is the way I feel. I just don't trust the Federal government. You're right, laws vary from state to state. Federal law is the law of the land to certain point. As long as state law does not violate federal law, they can make their own laws regarding anything from fire arms to immigration.
 
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MelloYello

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And a fuckton of those shootings are nig on nog, are they not?
Shhh! Nothing inflates the number of “mass shootings” as counting every Basketball American who opened fire on other Basketball Americans. (No matter if he missed because he’s holding the gun sideways like an exceptional individual or not).
Clearly, the solution we need is common-sense nigger regulation.
 

queerape

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There's something to be said about banning ammunition instead of guns. Technically speaking you can still "bear arms" as in own guns but those guns can't do shit if they aren't loaded. This strategy does work in Switzerland, which has one of the highest rates of gun ownership but one of the lowest rates of gun deaths because bullets are heavily restricted. I'm from a state with one of the most restrictive gun and ammunition laws and the last major gun massacre we had was in 1949. I feel the ammunition laws are a big component of this.
 

JosephStalin

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Do a lot of people in the US think this? I am not an American, I live in Canada and we have to have a license for firearms. There are several classes of licenses for various types of firearms. One thing I have noticed is that the firearms laws vary from state to state. In Canada it is one set of rules for the entire country - the provinces and cities can not enact different laws. What is legal on one side of the country, is legal on the other side.
Believe a lot of people wouldn't be in favor of licensing either guns or gun owners. The right to keep and bear arms is part of our Bill of Rights. That's a big deal to most Americans. We should not need a license to enjoy one of our Constitutional rights; that should be considered an infringement of that right.

Some will say, "But you need a license to drive." Sure do, but driving a motor vehicle is not a Constitutional right, but rather a privilege, whereas owning a weapon is a Constitutional right. And you are right, firearms laws vary from state to state. I'd like to see a uniform national law, starting with Constitutional concealed and open carry of weapons. Several states have that. Most other states make it fairly easy to get a concealed weapons carry permit. CA is one of the worst. It's "may issue", and issuance is up to the individual county sheriffs. Some sheriffs issue a number of permits, after meeting qualifications. Other sheriffs make you jump through hoops to get the permit. And certain sheriffs will not issue permits at all. Doesn't affect the criminals one bit, of course.
 

CamelCursive

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Believe a lot of people wouldn't be in favor of licensing either guns or gun owners. The right to keep and bear arms is part of our Bill of Rights. That's a big deal to most Americans. We should not need a license to enjoy one of our Constitutional rights; that should be considered an infringement of that right.
I find it odd that the same people who see voting as a Constitutionally-protected right are rabidly against stipulations like voter ID, despite it being pretty standard in other countries (even in shitholes like Mexico).

Yet they seem to be all in favor of the right to keep and bear arms requiring tests, licenses, psychiatric evaluations, and various other restrictions.

I'll consider a test, psych eval, and license to keep and bear arms when people are required to have those same things in order to vote.

But we both know that won't happen, because the Democrats today wouldn't have a voter base if people had to be able to understand how the government functions and prove they're psychologically stable.

Some will say, "But you need a license to drive." Sure do, but driving a motor vehicle is not a Constitutional right, but rather a privilege, whereas owning a weapon is a Constitutional right. And you are right, firearms laws vary from state to state. I'd like to see a uniform national law, starting with Constitutional concealed and open carry of weapons. Several states have that. Most other states make it fairly easy to get a concealed weapons carry permit. CA is one of the worst. It's "may issue", and issuance is up to the individual county sheriffs. Some sheriffs issue a number of permits, after meeting qualifications. Other sheriffs make you jump through hoops to get the permit. And certain sheriffs will not issue permits at all. Doesn't affect the criminals one bit, of course.
You need a license to operate a motor vehicle on public roadways. You do not need a license to purchase and own a vehicle. A five year old with enough cash in hand can purchase a vehicle. On your own property, you can have no driver's license at all and drive all you want.

So the counter to this logic is: "I will let you know when my intent is to operate my firearm regularly in public areas, then we can discuss the licenses."

There's something to be said about banning ammunition instead of guns. Technically speaking you can still "bear arms" as in own guns but those guns can't do shit if they aren't loaded. This strategy does work in Switzerland, which has one of the highest rates of gun ownership but one of the lowest rates of gun deaths because bullets are heavily restricted. I'm from a state with one of the most restrictive gun and ammunition laws and the last major gun massacre we had was in 1949. I feel the ammunition laws are a big component of this.
This made me laugh. The moment people say "we're going to make laws restricting ammo", well- the ammo factories are going to be BOOMING with production 24-7 and there will be all kinds of interests lining pockets to keep that law delayed. And people will stockpile. By the time you restrict ammo, the average gun owner will have enough to supply an Infantry Battalion for a year.

There's also something to be said about "I have enough brass to fill the bed of a small pickup truck, and a reloading kit". Pretty much everything else I need to make ammo is something humans have been able to do since the fucking bronze age, so I think this would make me a nice little fortune on the black market.

Also, remember that even if this idea with more holes in it than the cheese Switzerland is known for- but still manages to work (it won't)- you'd be eliminating gun massacres.

Now, I put a gun in your face and tell you to give me your money. What kind of a gambler are you- wanna bet that I didn't know how to reload my ammo, or didn't acquire a few more?
 
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Agoraphobic Bullshit

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Honestly, I don't live in America, so I've just stopped caring. Hearing about a shooting in the states is mundane as fuck. I figure that if Americans are cool with the risk in order to own guns, that's their choice, and gun violence is a simple natural consquence.
 

CKC

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Believe a lot of people wouldn't be in favor of licensing either guns or gun owners. The right to keep and bear arms is part of our Bill of Rights. That's a big deal to most Americans. We should not need a license to enjoy one of our Constitutional rights; that should be considered an infringement of that right.

Some will say, "But you need a license to drive." Sure do, but driving a motor vehicle is not a Constitutional right, but rather a privilege, whereas owning a weapon is a Constitutional right. And you are right, firearms laws vary from state to state. I'd like to see a uniform national law, starting with Constitutional concealed and open carry of weapons. Several states have that. Most other states make it fairly easy to get a concealed weapons carry permit. CA is one of the worst. It's "may issue", and issuance is up to the individual county sheriffs. Some sheriffs issue a number of permits, after meeting qualifications. Other sheriffs make you jump through hoops to get the permit. And certain sheriffs will not issue permits at all. Doesn't affect the criminals one bit, of course.
I agree, perhaps a national standard for rules should be enacted. Take it away from individual states and cities.
 
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InvertedDickEnthusiast

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Putting aside the logistics of banning guns entirely here, we'll just take it as magically possible, it's not going to stop violence in general, and pointless mass violence specifically. It's not a gun, or even a lack of asylums, that makes these people walk into a church or a mall and start murdering innocents. Hell even if we were to follow the El Paso shooter's manifesto we wouldn't fix things, only delay the inevitable. Even with a complete immigration moratorium (that is also just magically possible) we live in an overly complex society that demands an extreme level of domestic population churn that destroys our ability to form cohesive communities. It's the norm in America to at least grow up in one area, complete tertiary education in another, and start your career in a third. By the time you can even afford a home and to begin a family you've been cut off from whatever roots you might have had. All that's before we even take into consideration what it's like for young white men to sit through a 12 year minimum psychological terror campaign against what they are and anesthetizing themselves with porn and videogames.

But hey, at least we have the GDP.
 

Duke Nukem

Leader of the Anti-Chad Extermination Squad
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USSR had total gun ban. We had mass shootings, school shootings, subway bombing in Moscow with casualties that no one knew about. I bet red China has an assload of carnage that's never reported anywhere. The difference is I can sperg about this shit without fear of going to GULAG or getting a lead injection.
Sounds like what the Left wants to do here. Anyone who thinks gun bans are the endgame are as naive as your average progtard.

Your troll thread is gay. Kill yourself, faggot.
To be fair, he does put more effort into his bait than ron /pol/ does.
 

Arctic Fox

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Sounds like what the Left wants to do here. Anyone who thinks gun bans are the endgame are as naive as your average progtard.



To be fair, he does put more effort into his bait than ron /pol/ does.
That's what makes it gay though.
 

Stranger Neighbors

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Americans are an inherently violent people that have innovated some of the most compelling things in modern history. If you prefer safety and not taking risks go live in a boring ass place like Europe where you'll most likely beg a Muslim to throw acid in your face to break the monotony.

If you live in America and don't want to get shot:

you better learn to shoot and shoot well. All freedoms come at a price (I'd much rather be shot in a gun fight than stabbed to death or have acid thrown in my face while I'm unarmed)

Most of these limped dick mass shooters either kill themselves or surrender after taking a few with them, try searching up how many mass shootings are stopped by armed and ready civilians going about their day, Yeah we have alot of shootings because we have alot of guns, ya gotta break a few eggs if you wanna make a freedom omlette enjoy your caliphate everywhere else while I'm enjoying my burgers, sugar soda, pornography and obesity.

You faggots

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DocHoliday1977

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Americans are an inherently violent people that have innovated some of the most compelling things in modern history. If you prefer safety and not taking risks go live in a boring ass place like Europe where you'll most likely beg a Muslim to throw acid in your face to break the monotony.

If you live in America and don't want to get shot:

you better learn to shoot and shoot well. All freedoms come at a price (I'd much rather be shot in a gun fight than stabbed to death or have acid thrown in my face while I'm unarmed)

Most of these limped dick mass shooters either kill themselves or surrender after taking a few with them, try searching up how many mass shootings are stopped by armed and ready civilians going about their day, Yeah we have alot of shootings because we have alot of guns, ya gotta break a few eggs if you wanna make a freedom omlette enjoy your caliphate everywhere else while I'm enjoying my burgers, sugar soda, pornography and obesity.

You faggots

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Maybe move to Europe.

My daddy taught me how to shoot.
 

Your Weird Fetish

Intersectional fetishist
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Imagine being such a pussy that you want to disarm yourself on the 1 in a million shot that it will somehow prevent you from getting killed in an autistic shooting spree.
 
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