How Do We Stop Americans From Kililing Each Other? - Yes It's A Poll Thread

Do We, Ban Guns?


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SmallTalk201

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Well, you can I guess, but it's not very useful unless you narrow it down more.


So the solution to all of our problems is space. Prepare for the United States of Sol.


The galaxy brain move is to decide not to give a shit about either one of them. Get a gun.
It take way too much to get space set up to make it comfortable for speds and neck beards.
 

CamelCursive

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The Columbros had a friend buy the guns legally from a gun show for them. If that friend hadn't been able to do it so easily and legally they wouldn't have gotten the guns. And keep in mind that the guns were the backup plan when their shitty homemade explosives didn't work, so if they went in with just the bombs and no guns no one would have died.
That's not a "Legal Purchase". That's a straw purchase, and it's illegal as fuck. Try again, but turn down the stupid.


If you're really determined, sure, you can build a bomb at home, or get an illegal gun, or any of those things. In the time that you're going through that process, you might get caught by law enforcement or rethink your actions. If you have a gun just sitting there in your house or can buy one at a moment's notice, you can snap and go on a shooting spree on a moment's notice because someone pissed you off, no time to change your mind.
You can make explosives in an afternoon. There used to be a federal building in Oklahoma that is a testament to that.

The other ones are niggers shooting each other in the hood and no one gives a shit about that. Seriously I don't give much of a shit about drug dealers shooting drug dealers over drugs, compared to some psycho shooting up a school or Walmart full of innocent people.
This is why we don't ban guns, because only a dickless idiot believes that the criminals and psychos are going to hand theirs in. Would you prefer the rest of civilization have no means of defense?

It is best you part ways with this discussion, because you're practically carving a throne and crown out of "wrong" and ascending to become the king of stupid.
 

Autocrat

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American is the premier country in modern times. Easily the most innovative, and also the most powerful.
It is cringe inducing to see people from other countries belittle America and talk about 'banning' guns.

This is not your country, These shootings have nothing to do with you. Shut up and let your sister/wife/daughter/mother/female friend or family member get raped by Muslims, and leave us alone.


Let's ban e-trooning instead
 

DocHoliday1977

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American is the premier country in modern times. Easily the most innovative, and also the most powerful.
It is cringe inducing to see people from other countries belittle America and talk about 'banning' guns.

This is not your country, These shootings have nothing to do with you. Shut up and let your sister/wife/daughter/mother/female friend or family member get raped by Muslims, and leave us alone.




Let's ban e-trooning instead

Let’s all quit laying up on the internet feverishly stockpiling up all the viagra and cialis there is for that possible next time you are in the same room with a wet vag.
 

NyQuilninja

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Funny I was talking about this while yelling the t.v.
If one was to look at the crime Statistics
of some of the worst city’s in America.
You’ll find two comman dominators.
Corrupt local government and lots of uneducated minorities
However if you point out the issues and your white,
People tend to think your a racist.
This has made the issue so much worse because now an open discussion,
Can not take place.
 
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SmallTalk201

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So you think deporting people who have done absolutely nothing wrong and may have been here for generations won’t lead to violence?
violence is unavoidable at this point. I don't advocate for deportation but return to village state. America started off rural. The less rural America becomes the less free America becomes it seems.

America fragmentin into regional nations probably fix the political tensions
 

Thanksforpostingdude

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To answer the thread question, I don't think you can and my optimism is gone. As people have said, it's a cultural problem, but we're never going to focus on it and fix the problem. Trump's an easy target for lazy people who don't want any blame, and everyone believes they are some sort of political messiah. People will continue to shoot shit up with zero resistance minus the police or the one person who actually carries, and deaths will keep rising, because politics matter more than lives or using your fucking brain.

I have no clue how all of these urban idiots keep saying to ban guns, yet they live in communities festered with illegally acquired ones. Same goes for the fuck the police and government response, until it's life or death, then they need Big Brother to come in and swipe their problems away, or need Mr. Popo to kill a domestic terrorist. I'm just going to sit and watch people get murdered by psychopaths with plagiarized, MLA formatted manifestos and let America eat itself, as I'm tired of hearing about how "divisive" shit is from the same hypocritical militant fucks.
 

ProgKing of the North

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13% does 50, my dude.
The Asiatic religions and Islam are also diametrically opposed to all Western democratic values. Pay attention.
Yeah, East Asians haven’t assimilated at all...

Except for the fact that plenty of them absolutely have. And in any case, I love how your response to two shootings carried out by white males (and no I’m not saying that them being white males has anything to do with the shooting, that’s exceptional) is that it’s all the fault of minorities.

Say you’re a fifth generation black, Hispanic, or Asian. You go to work, pay your taxes, are a good citizen. Then one day the government says “all non whites are stripped of their citizenship, get the fuck out.” Would you go without a fight?
 

ZeCommissar

Cutest commissar this side of the segmentum
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13% does 50, my dude.
The Asiatic religions and Islam are also diametrically opposed to all Western democratic values. Pay attention.
Ok mr ubermensch lets deport millions of people who may or may not have had families here for over a century because "but the blacks kill alot of blacks in the ghetto! 50%!". Talking about western values when stripping people of their individual freedom is NOT a western value.
 

Secret Asshole

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I will tell you. Its gonna be long and uncomfortable. But it will never happen. We have had these answers for years.

How to Stop Mass Shootings by a Massive Asshole: A List and Why They Will Never Be Done

Solution
  • Proper mental health treatment for men. The stigma against getting treated for men is real and has never budged. Men bottle up emotions until they explode. Men and Women are different and commit suicide for different reasons. On average women have more suicide attempts as a cry for help. On the whole, men are way more successful at it and so the suicide rate skyrockets. Suicide and Mass Shootings are linked. Men don't see hope for a future for themselves. They're getting left behind in education, in jobs, in culture, in dating. There are no programs to advance them. Most college graduates are women. At starting jobs, women make higher amounts of money than men because of this. You need programs to make this happen. Its also been shown that domestic violence among men and women is practically equal, though only the latter is taken seriously. Body image issues also occur in similar rates in men, but this is again not taken seriously.
Why it won't Happen
  • Men are Satan. If you start a program to help men out, you will never hear the end of it. That you are a male rights activist, that you're a misogynist. People will laugh and mock men who do this and try to get treatment, and you'll get cognitive dissonance from Betas who hold the snack tray who will eventually blow their own brains out. They will de-platform you, harass your family and destroy your job and any good intentions you have. Nobody wants to risk it. Its simpler to think that men are getting radicalized when they can simply just observe society around them demonizing them, hating them and not even bothering to care. Others are just severely mentally ill who will never get the help they need because of stigma, lack of funding and programs. Also, look at every article about male mental health or suicide. The news begrudgingly 'accepts' it but always throws women in there too for some reason. There's also another reason: Nobody wants to spend the money
Solution
  • Make coverage of mass shootings as boring as possible. Don't show images of the shooter. Don't mention his manifestos or if you do, just briefly mention he had one. Don't even say if it was written or posted. Don't mention body counts. Don't trample through the grisly details, making them look like heroes of society. Minimize it as much as possible, localize it, don't make it 24/7 coverage. Have a guy speak about it in a monotone voice. Remove the illusion and glitz and glamour from it. Don't glorify. Don't spread these 'tragic stories'. Isolate it to communites affected and make it a blip on the national stage.
Why it won't Happen
  • 8CHAN PURVEYOR OF HATE HOSTS MANIFESTOS: WHY ARE KILLERS COMING HERE? HOW 8CHAN RADICALIZES KILLERS. THE EFFECT OF GAMERGATE AND MASS SHOOTERS. SALTY FORMER OWNER OF 8CHAN SAYS ITS EVIL AND MUST BE DESTROYED. THE RADICILIZATION OF AMERICAS YOUTH. WHY ARE MASS SHOOTERS WHITE MALES? DO WE HAVE A WHITE MALE PROBLEM? I'm sure you get the point. News organizations are starving and dying. They need profit to keep going. They sensationalize it intentionally, leading to the cognitive reinforcement that these people are evil, there's no hope for them, and that the sites they go to make them radical and they should have their rights forcefully confiscated from them, in terms of their speech as well as owning a gun. The media makes massive amounts of money off of these things. They also get to push their specific corporate agendas and wipe out competition of free speech. All it took to get Cloudflare to de-list 8chan was whining by blue checkmarks. If it were true, you've isolated an already isolated group of people, making them feel more alone in the world and more prone to hurting others. The sad fact is the news profits off of this so much that they will never not sensationalize it. It also rids them of competiton, so its two fold.
Solution
  • Have politicians tone down rehtoric when motives aren't known. Vet motivations, see if existing gun laws were violated. Have greater presence to isolate dangerous shooters. The guy who shot up the Florida school was actively being investigated and was a massive fuck-up by politicians, police and the community at large. Tighten these loopholes. Hold people accountable. Don't let fear take over and let others exploit the tragedy for a decrease in fundamental rights. Simple, common sense gun laws like background checks. Tighten up existing laws. Freedom should not be sacrificed for security.
Why it Won't Happen:
  • "Never let a good tragedy go to waste" - Rham Emmanuel
 

Spunt

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Gun control only works in places where there are few to no guns to start with. Like in the UK. You bet that every 2-bit gangsta wannabe or edgy incel in this country would love to have one but they don't, because:

1. Black Market guns are crazy expensive. If you want something better than a re-activated antique that's more of a danger to you than your target (I've heard stories of bank hold-ups here involving Napoleonic era flintlock pistols), then that's thousands of pounds.

2. Even if you could find a seller that wasn't a fed, you stand a good chance of going to a meeting with a man with a gun with several thousand pounds in your pocket, and going home without the gun, or the money, but with some nasty pistol-whip injuries.

3. Even if you get the gun, who is going to train you to use it safely? Where will you get reliable ammunition, or repairs? Where will you practice your aim? Not that you'll get more than a few live rounds to waste on improving your marksmanship anyway.

Guns in the UK are in such short supply that criminals have to rent them off gangland loan sharks. There's one 9mm pistol going around Birmingham that's been used in nearly 20 crimes by different perpetrators. Its one thing to have a "town gun", another when that town is a city of 3 million people.

The USA by contrast has about twice as many guns as people. There are tens of thousands of people who know to repair them, train you in marksmanship or even build guns from scratch. You'd not only have to take several hundred million guns away, you'd have to shut down the infrastructure and the culture. Of people who have guns and don't trust the government.

Most guns used in crimes in the US are stolen or acquired illegally by other means. Let's face it, someone who does not respect or obey the laws against armed robbery or murder won't have much issue ignoring laws against guns either.

Anyone who thinks the US can use European style gun control is not comparing like with like.

The US (like other places) has to figure out what makes its citizens want to kill each other en masse in the first place. But that would be difficult and lead to fewer photo opportunities for Politicians to score cheap points against their opponents, so don't get your hopes up.
 
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DocHoliday1977

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How do we stop Americans from killing each other? Stop the satanic screed of Do what thou wilt beliefs and demand parents monitor their brats mental health and online activities. Both El Paso and Dayton shooters as well as Parkland, Charleston, and Newtown were idiot brats unmonitored in this. If I didn’t know better, I’d almost say raised to be killing ruh-tards.
 
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