How do you think the elites today will fare by the year 2070? - They've certainly won gains over the last 30 years

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How do you think the elites today will fare by the year 2070?

  • Corruption will ironically drown them as there ceases to be a centralized power for them to subvert

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  • Plague and starvation will end the current system and their power base within it

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  • A religion will rise up against materialism and/or wealth bringing down their connections and power

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  • The internet will save us/Political Solutions will be enacted changing the nature of power itself

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  • Bitcoin will save us because its not like they can just rake in all the money twice in a row

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  • Total voters
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Haim Arlosoroff

Archpolitician June Lapercal
kiwifarms.net
The Elites, the Old Families and their figurative Shabbos Goyim, are getting more powerful. BlackRock, Inc. bought Merrill Lynch Investment Management in 2006 and Barclays Global Investor in 2009, As of 2020, their AI named Aladdin (Asset, Liability, Debt and Derivative Investment Network) manages more than $21.6 trillion in assets. The elite's wealth only got larger during the Great Coof and the economy survived being shut down and the Suez Canal jammed shut. However food is cheap and sexual degeneration has replaced the increasingly impossible chase of the old House, Spouse, 2.5 Kids, and the social signalling of a white picket fence near entirely. Talking with people during the lockdown, curfew, & rationing periods leads me to think not of 1790s France but 1970s USSR. I think the elites won over the media 50 years ago, and politics 30 years ago via campaign donations and campaigns themselves skyrocketing. The average person has stopped dreaming and quietly begun blaming.

I don't see any hope of stopping social mobility from shutting down outside of the New Normal game in the lower income brackets of fighting over who gets the meager share and who, via moral compromises and degrading acts, gets the moderate share provided they take on far more debt to ensure they stay hungry and lean for the sake of the economy. The average age at first marriage in America topped 28.9 in 2019, it was 21.7 in 1966. Marriage rates themselves, briefly spiked by gays, have fallen as people cannot get enough ahead to begin families. Even immigrant populations see a fail in fertility. Expectations in life are at an all time low while youtube and other social media let us see into the lives of the materially rich successful like never before, creating a widening gap between people's perceptions of their future and of their definitions of success. Men and Women, while their lives undergo utter stagnation, are setting their definitions of success in life ever higher for not only themselves but their opposite partner creating utterly depressing relationships that fail where they rarely even start. The Pax Americana System no longer works for the average American as jobs move overseas for the benefit of smaller and smaller shares of the population. Thereby the political polarization, and the devil's pact of divisive candidates, only logically follows as damaging the system less and less damages the majority living within it. Only the bare possibility of growing a little by saving majorly and the cheapness of food keeps the average person engaged.

The aging populations, because of little success in material conditions allowing people to form families and stabilize the population, meanwhile are going to divert funds first from Africa and other charity cases and then from younger generations via social security and other taxation to pay for the elderly. I think this is why Bill Gates bought such large swaths of farmland, bug, soy, and potato protein for Africa. Roughly 30 cents of every dollar were printed last year, if that number spikes and inflation hits then debt and savings reset leaving those holding their assets in American Dollars broke and those, such as the rich, still large intact with their investments in land and other safer places.

What does Kiwifarms think the chances are of the elites controlling the boot stamping on our faces forever? Are we winning? Is bitcoin really such an easy win against the current financial structures? Is this just going to be like 1790s France after all once food gets expensive or rare?
 
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Save the Loli

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By 2070, they will either have secured their rule (probably after a few major "revolts" in developed countries) or have collapsed/reformed. If they secure their rule, we're fucked for centuries until the next evolution (like true AI), just like medieval feudalism confined once-free peasants. If not, we face a total revolution in the system where some of them will hang and others will join us and become a new elite.

COVID-19 was very unique since it was the first taste of oppression your average Westerner has received. A ban from Twitter for wrongthink about troons is nothing compared to being forced to a facemask just to conduct daily life (job, shopping, etc.) and avoid arrest. Of course, protesting COVID-19 IRL resulted in severe punishment and criticizing the government regarding COVID-19 online resulted in punishment for "misinformation".

I wonder if it truly is the last gasp of the neoliberal system (dating back to the 1980s in its current form, and having evolved from the post-WWII concensus, although ultimately the root is 1790s Britain, with its most primordial components being medieval banking) as they struggle to evolve to fit this new technological era, or if their evolution is successful and they'll really be able to impose technofeudalism on us all. I think they have so many contradictions inherent to their system that some opposition will emerge that will bring about their collapse. My theory is that much will be settled in World War III which will also be the Second American Civil War.

Things are not right. When the population's expectations are far higher than actuality, revolution results. This happened in Russia in 1917 AND 1991, for instance. It's a dangerous seas we're sailing and the people steering the ship are abject idiots.
 

DicksOutForChauvin

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stopping one of them only takes a single man with the will to do it
see: lincoln, kennedy, asanuma, etc
Revolutions happen all the time too. It may take awhile but eventually they'll lose their power one way or another—even if really bad shit has to happen first.

Others will surely replace them, but that's just life.
 

Pixy

Yo, buddy. Still alive
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Rupert Murdoch's media empire doesn't seem like it'll fare too well. One of his sons doesn't agree with the way things are run and the misinformation permeating Newscorp, while the other is mostly a grey blur.

Right-wing traditional media is still going strong, largely due to the fact a good chunk of its audience is pre-information/early information age, but unless they can come up with a way to survive into the rest of the millenium, I can't see the Murdochs maintaining their status as media oligarchs for long. News.com.au has the biggest reach out of all the Newscorp (Australia) brands, but that's because it's free and has such a good web url.

I'm sure kidspot Australia and Fox Sports will keep going strong, though.
 

ConfederateIrishman

True & Honest Fan
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Way too much generalizations here. Some of them will crash and burn hilariously, others will accurately predict trends are do decently for themselves; I could see more than a few "new new rich" pop up taking advantages where they arise. A lot of them will depend on how well their heirs can cope/maintain what their parents built and/or inherited.

So honestly? Business as usual on the overall historical record.
 
The Elites, the Old Families and their figurative Shabbos Goyim, are getting more powerful. BlackRock, Inc. bought Merrill Lynch Investment Management in 2006 and Barclays Global Investor in 2009, As of 2020, their AI named Aladdin (Asset, Liability, Debt and Derivative Investment Network) manages more than $21.6 trillion in assets. The elite's wealth only got larger during the Great Coof and the economy survived being shut down and the Suez Canal jammed shut. However food is cheap and sexual degeneration has replaced the increasingly impossible chase of the old House, Spouse, 2.5 Kids, and the social signalling of a white picket fence near entirely. Talking with people during the lockdown, curfew, & rationing periods leads me to think not of 1790s France but 1970s USSR. I think the elites won over the media 50 years ago, and politics 30 years ago via campaign donations and campaigns themselves skyrocketing. The average person has stopped dreaming and quietly begun blaming.

I don't see any hope of stopping social mobility from shutting down outside of the New Normal game in the lower income brackets of fighting over who gets the meager share and who, via moral compromises and degrading acts, gets the moderate share provided they take on far more debt to ensure they stay hungry and lean for the sake of the economy. The average age at first marriage in America topped 28.9 in 2019, it was 21.7 in 1966. Marriage rates themselves, briefly spiked by gays, have fallen as people cannot get enough ahead to begin families. Even immigrant populations see a fail in fertility. Expectations in life are at an all time low while youtube and other social media let us see into the lives of the materially rich successful like never before, creating a widening gap between people's perceptions of their future and of their definitions of success. Men and Women, while their lives undergo utter stagnation, are setting their definitions of success in life ever higher for not only themselves but their opposite partner creating utterly depressing relationships that fail where they rarely even start. The Pax Americana System no longer works for the average American as jobs move overseas for the benefit of smaller and smaller shares of the population. Thereby the political polarization, and the devil's pact of divisive candidates, only logically follows as damaging the system less and less damages the majority living within it. Only the bare possibility of growing a little by saving majorly and the cheapness of food keeps the average person engaged.

The aging populations, because of little success in material conditions allowing people to form families and stabilize the population, meanwhile are going to divert funds first from Africa and other charity cases and then from younger generations via social security and other taxation to pay for the elderly. I think this is why Bill Gates bought such large swaths of farmland, bug, soy, and potato protein for Africa. Roughly 30 cents of every dollar were printed last year, if that number spikes and inflation hits then debt and savings reset leaving those holding their assets in American Dollars broke and those, such as the rich, still large intact with their investments in land and other safer places.

What does Kiwifarms think the chances are of the elites controlling the boot stamping on our faces forever? Are we winning? Is bitcoin really such an easy win against the current financial structures? Is this just going to be like 1790s France after all once food gets expensive or rare?
Do you believe that this is the best of all possible worlds?
Do you think the hawk will always take the dove?
the elites, being the elites (regardless of who they are individually), will carry on being elites.

The idea that history of man has been like the last 100years is woefully niave. Be grateful you were part of the 'never had it so good' era.

I've had my fun... If I never get well no more
 

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