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You can do what Nick "Rackets" Rekieta does and be a self-employed lawyer. At least in his home state of Minnesota he's proved uncancellable - though I don't know if you'd have similar luck in a place like California.
 

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Everything they do is for power or control. Dont talk to them cause they only want submission.

If you want avoid having them hassle you its best to have more power then them. Take notch who invented minecraft. He is rich so they cant take his living from him. They are bullies and target and can affect the weak.

There is agorism and counter economic. Work on creating a parallel economic system. Stop buying from wallmart and buy from the local farmer.

Best thing you can do long term is prepare for the collapse. Outwait them and let nature take care of them.
This is the most important and critical thing we can do: change things with our wallets. Don't buy from brands, don't buy from companies, don't buy from supermarkets. Always do it from your small stores even if variety is not that great. And by doing this not only you will do the good thing but also what you consume will improve in quality.
If you can have a farm and self sustain yourself and others like you, the better.
Move to a country outside America that doesn’t care too much about “cancel culture”.
Also don’t use or get involved with social media. You can’t get canceled if you’re too busy being Underground for people to notice.
tbh i thought for a time to move to Russia. Syberia is enormous and apparently the russian government was looking for people to populate that vast amount of land, offering subsidies in land adquisition for farming, hunting and foresting activities. But the language barrier, the weather and the fact that you probably won't see the sun for almost half a year are huge detriments.
You can do what Nick "Rackets" Rekieta does and be a self-employed lawyer. At least in his home state of Minnesota he's proved uncancellable - though I don't know if you'd have similar luck in a place like California.
Starting a business might be hard depending on where you are. Here in Europe, depending on which country you live, you might have it easy or you might need 2 years and be filthy rich to pay for permits before even opening business.
 

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Prevention:
no apologizing, no "taking a break from the internet", ideally no interacting with contaminated users
Pro-activity:
spreading the word outside of the internet, to people who easily fall for mind games and guilt trips, actually cutting ties with people you consider to be too far gone
negotiating with retards doesn't work so the best you can do is just distance yourself from them and eventually trap them in their own echo-chamber
there is no saving the internet at this point, not without some holocaust tier event breaking them out of their ideology but you can still save your surroundings
go be nice to people irl
 

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Prevention:
no apologizing, no "taking a break from the internet", ideally no interacting with contaminated users
Pro-activity:
spreading the word outside of the internet, to people who easily fall for mind games and guilt trips, actually cutting ties with people you consider to be too far gone
negotiating with retards doesn't work so the best you can do is just distance yourself from them and eventually trap them in their own echo-chamber
there is no saving the internet at this point, not without some holocaust tier event breaking them out of their ideology but you can still save your surroundings
go be nice to people irl
Agreed, although I wouldn't be surprised if we do see some massive disaster breaking these people out of their ideology, or at least breaking the Silicon Valley media bigwigs out of it given how COVID-19 already has wrecked their finances, plus you've got "Get Woke Go Broke" going on for years now, and with the trade war in China getting increasingly intense, it could force the bigwigs to secretly admit to themselves the Woke Left aren't useful anymore and they will cut off support accordingly.

I think right now they're quadrupling down on the wokeness and endorsing literal terrorism in the hopes of influencing the 2020 Election since if Biden gets in, it'll be back to business as usual

If Trump wins and the GOP keeps control of the Senate, that won't happen. Without Trump, the Republicans in Congress will mostly go back to their old neocon antics since there's no populist figure to rally behind and pander to the base with.
 

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Agreed, although I wouldn't be surprised if we do see some massive disaster breaking these people out of their ideology, or at least breaking the Silicon Valley media bigwigs out of it given how COVID-19 already has wrecked their finances, plus you've got "Get Woke Go Broke" going on for years now, and with the trade war in China getting increasingly intense, it could force the bigwigs to secretly admit to themselves the Woke Left aren't useful anymore and they will cut off support accordingly.

I think right now they're quadrupling down on the wokeness and endorsing literal terrorism in the hopes of influencing the 2020 Election since if Biden gets in, it'll be back to business as usual
its not that simple and not even about america anymore
i actually think companies don't have much incentive in rigging a election since they hold america by the balls anyway, trump pretends to do something about them but doesn't really
woke companies are doing what they're doing because they have been infiltrated on all levels by people who found meaning in being nice at any cost, even if that means you have to not be nice first, that's how SJWs work logically
so the companies either actively endorse SJW because they genuinely believe that's the way to go or out of fear of internal rebellion
the real risk of any given ideology is not the bigwigs but the mob
this societal shift was in the works for the last 30-40 years and its momentum will not stop for another 20 at least
 

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its not that simple and not even about america anymore
i actually think companies don't have much incentive in rigging a election since they hold america by the balls anyway, trump pretends to do something about them but doesn't really
woke companies are doing what they're doing because they have been infiltrated on all levels by people who found meaning in being nice at any cost, even if that means you have to not be nice first, that's how SJWs work logically
so the companies either actively endorse SJW because they genuinely believe that's the way to go or out of fear of internal rebellion
the real risk of any given ideology is not the bigwigs but the mob
this societal shift was in the works for the last 30-40 years and its momentum will not stop for another 20 at least
The reason why I think a second term of Trump will put an end to this at this point is less about what he does here in America (aside from federal arrests on Antifa) but the trade war with China

The majority of these SJW companies make their billions from China and COVID-19 threw us all a curveball. If they lose all those Chinese bucks AND have to contend with a bad economy at home, then expect corporate purges of the woke as both a cost-cutting maneuver and as a way to win over the silent majority by producing apolitical media and more apolitical site policies to serve as a palate cleanser after almost a decade or so of "Current Year".

If Trump manages to win a second term, then that proves that there is a silent majority. That's when the corporate bigwigs that run the country will act accordingly since the virus wrecked their finances and they can't rely on the Chinese markets like they used to. They'll quietly fire as many SJW's on their payroll as they can safely get away with and will no longer pander to the Woke Left if this happens.

An entire woke generation would likely be completely de facto disenfranchised unless they learned to code or developed some other useful job skill if this scenario actually plays out.

Oddly enough, if it weren't for the virus wrecking everyone's shit economically on all ends then I'd wager a second term of Trump wouldn't do much to unseat the Woke Left in the early 2020's (although I do think a backlash would happen eventually)
 
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The majority of these SJW companies make their billions from China and COVID-19 threw us all a curveball. If they lose all those Chinese bucks AND have to contend with a bad economy at home, then expect corporate purges of the woke as both a cost-cutting maneuver and as a way to win over the silent majority by producing apolitical media and more apolitical site policies to serve as a palate cleanser after almost a decade or so of "Current Year".

If Trump manages to win a second term, then that proves that there is a silent majority and the corporate bigwigs that run the country will act accordingly since the virus wrecked their finances and they can't rely on the Chinese markets like they used to.
It could happen if the only reason companies go full woke was economic, and again i don't think that's it.
That said you touched on a good topic, the silent majority.
If they could be persuaded to act it could at least slow down this cancer but i honestly doubt that would ever happen.
People have grown to comfortable and too complicit, they don't want to challenge others nor themselves.

The Internet has a strange unifying quality, it creates groups and pits them against each other, eventually rolling the remains into bigger groups and so on.
I truly believe that in the end of this process we will all have pretty much the same ideology, view on politics, interests, and even the same character traits.
Its just that whatever we end up as probably wont be good so its best to hold on to your individuality for as long as you can.
 

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It could happen if the only reason companies go full woke was economic, and again i don't think that's it.
That said you touched on a good topic, the silent majority.
If they could be persuaded to act it could at least slow down this cancer but i honestly doubt that would ever happen.
People have grown to comfortable and too complicit, they don't want to challenge others nor themselves.

The Internet has a strange unifying quality, it creates groups and pits them against each other, eventually rolling the remains into bigger groups and so on.
I truly believe that in the end of this process we will all have pretty much the same ideology, view on politics, interests, and even the same character traits.
Its just that whatever we end up as probably wont be good so its best to hold on to your individuality for as long as you can.
If there's any hope in all this, it lies with the Boomers....

The Boomers and Gen X are the ones who are at the top positions of power in these companies and for your average Hollywood Boomer or Silicon Valley Gen X'er, they really are all about the money and economic interest, and losing the Chinese market in a second term of Trump is the kind of thing that will make those at the very top purge the Millennial and Early Zoomer Woke Leftists that make up the SJW mobs at the lower levels and have fully infested the middle levels

Baby Boomers and Generation X are playing by the old rules and the vast majority of them are not true believers in this extreme left-wing claptrap, at least not the bigwigs with enough savvy to control these mega-corporations.

If those at the very top can make the corporate purges while the Boomers are still alive and the Gen X'ers aren't total geezers, then I think it will knock the wind out of the Woke Left for a long time and it would essentially lead to a de facto disenfranchisement of the Core/Late Millennial and Early Zoomer SJW's. By the time these Late Millennials and Zoomer gender speds will be able to finally catch up, that's when Gen X will be where the Boomers are at now and the Late Zoomer and Alpha Gen kids will be grown up and be seen as the new future and a lot of the evidence points to the Late Zoomers and Alpha Gen being more right-leaning and the Core Zoomers being more apolitical or a similar kind of moderate liberal as Gen X.

The Gen Z hyper-SJW gender speds are mostly the Early Zoomers born in the late 90's who are almost nearly the same as the Late Millennials born in the early 90's when it comes to cultural experiences. When the media talks about how Gen Z is big into equity, socialism, postmodern views on gender, and social justice even more than the Millennials are, those Early Zoomers are who they're referring to.

The Late Zoomers are more likely to be closer to the "Generation Zyklon" meme but they're still teenagers in high school for the most part, and the Core Zoomers are just now graduating high school or are just old enough to legally buy booze, and I get a more apolitical or "2000's liberal" vibe from a lot of them.

Politically, the disenfranchisement would happen once The Squad are no longer in office since they burned most of their bridges within the Democratic Party. As it is, it's pretty obvious AOC will have her district gerrymandered out of existence by 2022 and Ilhan Omar will likely face a similar fate if she's not just voted out by pissed-off Minnesotans in 2020.

But again, all of this would depend on Trump winning a second term and intensifying the trade war with China for the next four years. The loss of the Chinese market is the kind of hard kick to the balls that the corporate oligarchs would need to purge the Woke Left from their positions of power in society.
 
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But again, all of this would depend on Trump winning a second term and intensifying the trade war with China for the next four years. The loss of the Chinese market is the kind of hard kick to the balls that the corporate oligarchs would need to purge the Woke Left from their positions of power in society.
Your post is assuming a lot but might be possible, who knows
But are you saying that if the other guy wins america wont continue the trade war?
Seems kinda unlikely since seemingly every other nation on earth is pulling out of that shithole asap.
 

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Your post is assuming a lot but might be possible, who knows
But are you saying that if the other guy wins america wont continue the trade war?
Seems kinda unlikely since seemingly every other nation on earth is pulling out of that shithole asap.
Biden (and by extension the Democratic elites and most of the GOP establishment for that matter) have a lot of vested economic interests in China, as do the corporations that back Biden and by extension, the Woke Left. They don't want a trade war with China because they've invested so much into the PRC and make the majority of their global wealthy from there.

The Republicans in Congress will back Trump's trade war because he's popular with the GOP voter base and that will help get them elected and keep them from getting primaried by some random populist, with most of the remaining "Never Trumpers" being reviled avowed neocons like Romney and Kristol.

If Trump is not in office, most of the Republicans will be fine with resuming business as usual with the PRC and the money will keep flowing to the Boomers and X'ers who run the top rungs of the big corporations and they won't need to purge the wokesters from their jobs. If they lose that market (especially when combined with the current COVID-19 recession) then they'll start firing as many diversity hires and HR dangerhairs as they can and the only SJW's who will stay in are the rare ones with genuine marketable skills and competency at said skills.

That kind of economic cascade will change the culture drastically. Hell, a lot of the reasons why pop culture went to shit after Obama got into office was directly because of the Great Recession and the Writers' Strike in 2007-2008 with the rise of social media exacerbating things later on
 

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If Trump is not in office, most of the Republicans will be fine with resuming business as usual with the PRC and the money will keep flowing to the Boomers and X'ers who run the top rungs of the big corporations and they won't need to purge the wokesters from their jobs. If they lose that market (especially when combined with the current COVID-19 recession) then they'll start firing as many diversity hires and HR dangerhairs as they can and the only SJW's who will stay in are the rare ones with genuine marketable skills and competency at said skills.
Makes sense, i just worry about the rest of the world.
But seeing that some sort of crisis is going to be present everywhere it might also have a similar effect.
Lets just hope lefties really are as incompetent as we think, and that social media wont fuck everything up regardless.
 
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Makes sense, i just worry about the rest of the world.
If you think about Europe, things might get salvageable in a decade or so. The question is if the non woklet politicians around here are competent enough to get shit done or they will be the same brand of stupid as the ones that left office. In Germany people are already fed up with Merkel and the lefties, making the right stronger no matter how much people scream "racist" and it seems that Austria is following suit there. In France Macron is doing a fairly competent work and cleaning table despite the initial assumptions. He might as well be the only good frog in existance. And in Denmark they are fairly safe since many news outlets denounced mistreatment of minorities (aka, deportations).
The main problem lies in 4 places (5 if you want to be more accurate): Spain, Italy, UK, Sweden and Greece. Spain and Italy share the same problem: Incompetent and corrupt politicians across the board and inmigration problems. They are in the front and not doing much overall. And the EU showers them with money that gets funneled into the pockets of the politicians. Greece is on the same page, but they have been raped to hell and back with the last crisis and their breeches are still flapping in the wind. As long as Greece doesn't come back, Turkey will have a very important bargaining chip against Europe in the form of thousands upon thousands of illegal migrants. Not even Hungary and Bulgaria will be able to stop that.
The UK is pretty much on the brink, seeing that London is a place where you can get arrested for saying mean things on the internet and knife attacks are a common thing. And Sweden... Well, we can say Sweden is a lost cause. At least the big cities are.
 

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If you think about Europe, things might get salvageable in a decade or so. The question is if the non woklet politicians around here are competent enough to get shit done or they will be the same brand of stupid as the ones that left office. In Germany people are already fed up with Merkel and the lefties, making the right stronger no matter how much people scream "racist" and it seems that Austria is following suit there. In France Macron is doing a fairly competent work and cleaning table despite the initial assumptions. He might as well be the only good frog in existance.
I really hope that's true since i always thought germany would be the biggest tumor.
Years back i thought that if the great social experiment of the SJW would be finally considered a Failure then other countries who are just beginning their magical journey into it might stop and reconsider. I still kinda believe in that, but i'm not so sure anymore.
Just like with communism we need somebody big to fail or denounce it and other countries will follow suit.
UK was always a shithole because of their culture so i'm really not surprised that they ended up like so, i'm kinda glad brexit happened and accelerated the process somewhat.
 

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Generation X are playing by the old rules and the vast majority of them are not true believers in this extreme left-wing claptrap, at least not the bigwigs with enough savvy to control these mega-corporations.
I would not be to sure about this. I have experienced Gen X with my parents, and I can tell you that they have been slowly more radicalized throughout the years. They may not be Bernie supporters, but they do view groups like BLM in high regard and talk about how Trump may be the next Hitler. Outside of Millenials, it seems that Gen x was likely a big part of the SJW era or is becoming one as they only listen to CNN and FaceBook.

It also does not help that they typically only keep up with information outside of the internet. As of now, they seem to be the strongest supporters of Biden as Obama is starting to become their Reagan, so do watch out for them. They are the generation less talked about out of the 4, and as such, most of this passes under the radar it seems.

The Gen Z hyper-SJW gender speds are mostly the Early Zoomers born in the late 90's who are almost nearly the same as the Late Millennials born in the early 90's when it comes to cultural experiences. When the media talks about how Gen Z is big into equity, socialism, postmodern views on gender, and social justice even more than the Millennials are, those Early Zoomers are who they're referring to.
What even is Gen Z? I know I am a part of it as a 2000s kid, but does it bleed into the 90s or not, I have seen it go both ways.

Anyways, if it is 90s, then yeah be careful. If we are going by 2000s, it seems that Gen Z is high republican and articles have already said as much. They said that the housing crisis and 9/11 have pretty much made Gen Z penny-saving republicans. I am not sure I fully agree with that because I think YouTube and the Anita era pretty much made the generation Republican. Other than for Bernie, no part of Gen z seems to want to vote Democrat. The only reason Bernie is even there is probably because he does not get much flak from anti-SJW YouTube, and B he comes off like a well-educated moderate. He did things like vote against the Iraq war, and on Joe Rogan he was pretty moderate standing on most policies. Too bad he messed himself up by being Biden’s lap dog and progressively getting more SJW in the 2020 election, though he was never going to win given what happened in 2016.



At this point, I am with you. I wanted to be fair and give Dems the benefit of the doubt this election and try to see both sides, but if anything, everything on here just lead me back to Trump and his audience like in 2016. Hopefully he wins this thing, though I think he will given Biden’s not-so-incredible track record.
 

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I would not be to sure about this. I have experienced Gen X with my parents, and I can tell you that they have been slowly more radicalized throughout the years. They may not be Bernie supporters, but they do view groups like BLM in high regard and talk about how Trump may be the next Hitler. Outside of Millenials, it seems that Gen x was likely a big part of the SJW era or is becoming one as they only listen to CNN and FaceBook.

It also does not help that they typically only keep up with information outside of the internet. As of now, they seem to be the strongest supporters of Biden as Obama is starting to become their Reagan, so do watch out for them. They are the generation less talked about out of the 4, and as such, most of this passes under the radar it seems.


What even is Gen Z? I know I am a part of it as a 2000s kid, but does it bleed into the 90s or not, I have seen it go both ways.

Anyways, if it is 90s, then yeah be careful. If we are going by 2000s, it seems that Gen Z is high republican and articles have already said as much. They said that the housing crisis and 9/11 have pretty much made Gen Z penny-saving republicans. I am not sure I fully agree with that because I think YouTube and the Anita era pretty much made the generation Republican. Other than for Bernie, no part of Gen z seems to want to vote Democrat. The only reason Bernie is even there is probably because he does not get much flak from anti-SJW YouTube, and B he comes off like a well-educated moderate. He did things like vote against the Iraq war, and on Joe Rogan he was pretty moderate standing on most policies. Too bad he messed himself up by being Biden’s lap dog and progressively getting more SJW in the 2020 election, though he was never going to win given what happened in 2016.



At this point, I am with you. I wanted to be fair and give Dems the benefit of the doubt this election and try to see both sides, but if anything, everything on here just lead me back to Trump and his audience like in 2016. Hopefully he wins this thing, though I think he will given Biden’s not-so-incredible track record.
True, Gen X is pretty liberal left-leaning and I'd say the first wave of SJW culture was ushered in with a mix of both Late Gen X and Early Millennials at the helm. My parents and uncle are both Gen X'ers and are very much liberal Democrats who hate Trump, but they're also kinda naive on just how far gone the Millennials and Early Zoomers actually are and just how bad the Woke Left truly is.

They're still very much operating on the old Clinton-Bush era playbook where it was the cool liberals vs. the Religious Right and neocons although I'd wager the intense insanity of the last two months has "redpilled" a lot of Gen X'ers on just how out of hand things have gotten with the Woke Left, especially if they live in or near certain areas and even if they won't publicly admit to it and still at least agree on the most surface level CNN talking points, I'd expect them to support Biden in 2020 but also turn on the Woke Left if Trump wins.

If anything, I think the Gen X'ers will blame the Millennial/Early Zoomer Woke Left for Trump's victory if Biden loses the election and will throw the SJW's under the bus accordingly. If Trump can also win the popular vote, then it'll be a lot more difficult to invoke "muh Russia" again like with 2016.
 

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but also turn on the Woke Left if Trump wins
I honestly feel many will double-down for whatever reason. I think they will want to continue support because they do truly believe that Trump is an omega racist and sexist.

If anything, I think the Gen X'ers will blame the Millennial/Early Zoomer Woke Left for Trump's victory if Biden loses the election and will throw the SJW's under the bus accordingly. If Trump can also win the popular vote, then it'll be a lot more difficult to invoke "muh Russia" again like with 2016.
Maybe? I think it is more likely that a Russia will get pulled again because they do seem to fully believe in that. Personally, I have heard my mom go off multiple times about how the FBI found evidence that Putin wants Trump and how that is scary. So far it seems Putin has done practically nothing but invade one country (which likely would have happened regardless), yet they still think Trump is his puppet. The red scare seems all to powerful to drop. The sad part being that China is clearly an issue even to Gen X, yet they cannot seem to grasp that they are more likely the threat and potential WW3 than Russia or the Middle East.

I think another point will be them blaming America’s lack of intelligence or some lingering racism for his victory. I think CNN went off on Trump’s grammar, giving old-leftists the elitism they need to assert that they are clearly more intelligent for not falling for his trickery. Somehow Biden stumbling on every sentence is believed to be a speech impediment and nothing to worry about, but Trump speaking at an easily understandable lower level is a problem.

As for blaming the far left, they will and will not. They will raise BLM and Antifa as being great if not just a bit problematic, but hey, the message is good. And feminists and civil rights of the past were good right? These kids are mislead, but we cannot blame them as there is no Martin Luther King nowadays? (I am being serious, I have heard these). I remember my middle school brother going off on how wrong it is for Nancy Pelosi to give a flag to Floyd’s family as he was a criminal, and my parents said it was cool because he will bring change to America. I think a part of Gen X is too far gone to see the issues at this point.

If anything, they will yell at Bernie’s base like YouTuber Synthcool is predicting. They will see Bernie as too far against the normal and his fans voting for Donald because they want actual change as the primary issue. It is the fault of the Bernie supporters for not sucking it up and licking Biden’s boots. Now we have four more years of the racist, sexist, rapist, Russia puppet in office.
 
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