World Hungary nationalism salt thread - All in one thread about how a country smaller than New York makes big US newspapers ree. Updated for the Hitler^2 meeting, lots of REEE!

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Or at least opts out of it.

http://freewestmedia.com/2018/04/29/indignation-as-hungary-vetoes-eu-africa-summit-agreement/

Indignation as Hungary vetoes EU-Africa summit agreement
The Hungarian government unexpectedly vetoed an international convention of the EU with African governments on immigration. Indignation erupted at the EU Ambassadors' meeting on 25 April.

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Published: April 29, 2018, 8:58 am
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But on 26 April, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto speaking to the European Parliament’s LIBE Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs, reminded the EU leadership that they were not elected to their posts.

Szijjarto told the Dutch Liberal representative: “You ask us how we represent the Hungarian people, and what kind of authorization we have. I could also ask you what percentage of the European people voted for you, so that you could lecture the Hungarian people in the name of Europe?”

In a draft report, the committee had concluded that Hungary risks violating EU values, like the “fundamental rights of migrants, asylum seekers and refugees”.

No EU country had shared the arguments of the Hungarians, and the ambassadors of pro-immigration countries expressed irritation with the Hungarian ambassador, Oliver Varhelyi on the previous day. He was the only EU representative to object to the language of the African agreement, which he said spoke too positively about legal migration.

According to some member states and representatives of several countries, in their view, Hungary wants to undermine the EU’s international authority.

Next Wednesday, a conference will be held in Marrakech, Morocco, where the leaders of the EU and several African countries will be meeting. The main purpose of the cooperation is to give the EU money to Africans to try and block migration.

There is also the program through which illegals returning to Libya from Europe, are paid money to go back home.

A joint statement on the continuation of the co-operation between the EU and African governments has been adopted, and the summit preparation has been going on for a year. The Hungarian government however has said that it would refuse to sign the document on behalf of the EU. On foreign affairs, every member state has a veto right.

The Hungarian government disagrees that migration was emphasized enough, and according to the Hungarians, the document did not make a distinct difference between asylum policy and immigration policy.

In the debate, representatives of the Belgian, Portuguese and Italian Governments have indignantly rejected amendments proposed by the Hungarians last week. The amendments would also have to be agreed with the governments of many African countries, and the EU is saying that it would be impossible to do so in that time. They added that the idea of Hungarians was unacceptable to them.

In the debate, the Ambassadors of Spain, France, Austria and the Finnish Government also protested against the veto. They said it was very bad for EU diplomacy. Whether it is an agreement with a safe third country or transit country, the Hungarian veto would undermine EU prestige in the negotiations, diplomats argued.

Others have been repulsed by the veto of the Hungarian government, which they claim “helps illegal migration” by attacking legal migration. French and German ambassadors lambasted what they described as “regular Hungarian efforts to undermine the EU’s important collective issues”.

Due to the Hungarian government’s last-minute veto, all official references to the EU as a whole must be removed from the agreement.

Instead, the agreement will now be issued in the name of the bloc’s commissioners responsible for foreign affairs and migration.

This is not the first time that Hungary has vetoed collective EU agreements. Recently, it vetoed a joint EU statement condemning Chinese human rights abuses, as well as a proposed joint statement on the UN’s migration discussions

http://freewestmedia.com/2018/05/16/hungary-and-poland-stand-firm-against-eus-immigration-plans/

A political statement was issued after the event, full of information that provides a clear indication of the imminent plans to bring millions of Africans to Europe.

The most important feature of the statement is that EU officials are as determined as ever to enable a massive flow of “legal” migration. Only Hungary stood up for the Europeans and refused to sign it, while Belgium, the Netherlands and other nations have agreed.

Instead of defending Europe against the unwanted influx of people from outside the continent, mainstream politicians have a very different view. The event was reported as a quest for adapted and coordinated answers to “manage” migration flows.

Long negotiations took place in which civil society and international organisations such as the IOM, the UN organization for migration, and the special envoy of the UN Secretary-General, Louise Arbor, were involved.

From the statement:

The action plan provides for concrete commitments “to reinforce the positive impact of legal migration on development” by exchanging good practices that enable countries to know the profiles of their diasporas, reduce the cost of international money transfers and supporting entrepreneurship and productive investment by young people from the African diaspora.

Only the Hungarian government refused to sign this statement, because it rightly argued that the consequence of such an agreement would be a new wave of immigrants, both through the old avenues, but also through newly opened avenues.

It was suggested that a distinction be made between migrants with “legal status” and “illegal immigrants”, but the Hungarians questioned the move saying it did not address the flood of Africans to the EU.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Hungary, Péter Szijjártó also quoted the words of the European Commissioner for Migration Dimitris Avramopoulos who very openly articulated the background to this statement: “Migration must be supported because the population grows in Africa and shrinks from Europe.”

Hungary’s ruling Fidesz says it will not yield to any form of pressure and will implement Hungarians’ wish that the country should be kept free of mass migration, a party spokesman said on Tuesday.

A “Soros report” condemning Hungary is being forced through in Brussels and further “lies are being spread about us” to force the government to accept mass migration without any resistance, Balázs Hidvéghi said.

Amendments to a damning report about Hungary proposed by Dutch green-liberal MEP Judith Sargentini, will be submitted on Tuesday.

US financier George Soros has urged his surrogates in Brussels to attack Hungary with further lies, proposing the imposition of sanctions on it, Hidvéghi added. “The ‘Soros report’ currently in preparation is part of this attempt to pressurise Hungary; the EP LIBE committee will vote on it next month and the EP plenary in the autumn,” he said.

Asked about the planned move of the Open Society Foundation’s Budapest office to Berlin, he said “they are fleeing from transparency” because they do not want Hungarians to know what money is being used to finance it. However, its exit will be only a “facade”. The foundation will not stop its operation in Hungary, and will continue to exercise pressure to promote migration, he explained to MTI, the Hungarian news agency.

Hungarian Prime Minister said earlier the EU risks being “overrun” by mass immigration and said his government had “prevented the Islamic world from flooding us”. Orban singled out immigration from Africa as potentially leading to “our worst nightmares coming true”.

His Polish counterpart Mateusz Morawiecki also strongly opposed the EU’s forced migrant quota system, describing it as an assault on national sovereignty. The EU Commission wants to tie funding on which poorer eastern countries rely, to respect for their dictates.

Reuters reported that Hungary refused any proposal that would provide the potential for blackmail of anyone with regard to the payment of EU funds based on the treaties.

Both leaders, meeting in Warsaw, said people in Africa the Middle East should be helped in their own countries as it would be a more effective long-term solution to the migrant crisis.

Bonus:
old but good
http://freewestmedia.com/2017/11/20/europeans-moving-to-hungary-to-escape-islam/

http://freewestmedia.com/2018/01/19/hungarian-government-eyes-punitive-taxes-for-refugee-activists/

Hungary will defend traditional families, stop demographic decline, Orban says
05/25/2018 4:03
BUDAPEST, May 25 (Reuters) - Hungary's government will launch measures to stop and then reverse a demographic decline by 2030, Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Friday, as he blamed liberal democracy for undermining traditional families.

Orban said the key question was whether the Hungarian nation was preserved "biologically and in numbers" and what the government should do to stop the demographic decline. He said the government would launch a "serious family policy action plan" but did not go into detail.

Liberal democracy had failed to halt immigration, protect Christian culture or strengthen the traditional family of one man and one woman, Orban said.

"There are many kinds of families, many ways of life and it (liberal democracy) says we should not differentiate between these ... it wants to ensure equal treatment in the law ... and this is the reason, this is one of the reasons, why we are experiencing a demographic decline now," Orban told state radio.

Statistical data show that Hungary's population has been declining for decades. Since Orban was elected in 2010, it has declined further, to 9.771 million in January 2018 from 10.014 million in 2010.

He said the period until 2030 in Hungary and Europe should be defined by a modernized concept of Christian democracy instead.

"Christian democracy protects us from migration, defends the borders, supports the traditional family model of one man, one woman, considers the protection of our Christian culture as a natural thing," he said.

Orban, 54, took power in 2010 and has continually increased his control over the media, put allies in charge of once-independent institutions and campaigned on a platform of fierce hostility to immigration.

His policies have put him into conflict with the European Union, but he was re-elected for a third straight term last month.

A vehement opponent of immigration into Europe by Muslim refugees from the Middle East and Africa, Orban's campaign - helped by his party's media dominance - resonated with swathes of the electorate. His Fidesz party now holds 133 of 199 seats in parliament.

Orban reiterated his government will submit legislation to parliament next week that would impose criminal penalties on non-governmental groups accused of helping and financing illegal immigration.

"We must sanction those ... who conduct such activities," Orban told state radio.

https://www.compuserve.com/politics/story/0002/20180525/M1L5N1SW123_549010743?guccounter=1

http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/features-november-2017-gerald-frost-viktor-orban-hungary-haunted

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/17/editorial-viktor-orban-of-hungary-smites-the-bruss/

Butthurt:
http://4liberty.eu/illiberal-hungary-and-stages-of-grief-in-politics/

Liberal jew butthurt at Israel.
https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-antisemitism-judaism-is-picking-the-wrong-friends-in-europe/

Victory!
https://www.politico.eu/article/soros-open-society-foundations-leaving-hungary/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/world/europe/soros-philanthropy-hungary-viktor-orban.html

Butthurt employee on defeat:
https://www.politico.eu/article/hungarys-illiberal-infection-of-the-western-balkans-viktor-orban/

https://www.politico.eu/article/george-soros-open-society-foundation-hungary-gains-slipping-away/
Orban can outjew the jewest jew.

McCuck is not liking it.
https://worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/14699/illiberal-democracy-how-hungary-s-orban-is-testing-europe

Also, check this out, we indeed must be monsters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCX2blR0QmY

Optimism:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/05/23/hungarys-experiment-could-rebuild-a-sense-of-nation-in-europe/
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/hungary-will-defend-traditional-families--stop-demographic-decline--orban-says-10277718

The second biggest Hungarian party is likely to split over far right and centrist schism.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hungary-jobbik/hardliners-in-hungarys-jobbik-demand-return-to-far-right-roots-idUSKCN1IN1MW?il=0

Trumpu is impressed? Sempai!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trump-loves-a-strongman-so-of-course-he-fawns-over-hungarys-viktor-orban/2018/05/25/a10bff28-5f64-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_story.html?utm_term=.b0c7b8569dd5

Ukraine is reeing.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/hungary-urges-nato-to-review-all-support-programs-for-ukraine.html

Reerees:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/world/europe/viktor-orban-hungary.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/viktor-orban-hungary-eu-right-wing-migration-refugee-policy-bad-news-a8296276.html
http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/12/viktor-orban-is-just-getting-started-hungary/

thoughtful reeree
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/04/viktor-orban-hungary-elections-enlightenment
http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/features-november-2017-gerald-frost-viktor-orban-hungary-haunted?page=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
https://newrepublic.com/article/148273/backsliding-budapest
https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-the-matter-with-hungary
 
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Male Idiot

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Sometime this century, Hungary and Poland are going to become super powers while Western and Northern Europe decay from the inside and I just hope I live long enough to see it
I wouldn't say that, but I think we will survive the jihad, I mean storm that will tear the western parts down. China and Russia will still dominate, and the US can go either way still.
We may become stronger regional players though.
 

Lysol

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the ambassadors of pro-immigration countries expressed irritation with the Hungarian ambassador
Yeah, probably because it shows just how completely and utterly shit this policy is when the violent crime rates (especially rape) skyrockets in the countries that accept these walking wastes of skin and the ones who don't, don't have that problem.

Others have been repulsed by the veto of the Hungarian government, which they claim “helps illegal migration” by attacking legal migration.
This is pants-on-head exceptional logic. "The problem that our people are having is that they're all undocumented migrants, so if we give them some papers when they get at the border they'll suddenly act civilized and our citizenry will also suddenly not want us to drown in semen anymore!" Seriously, it's like they actually don't understand that the problem is the mass immigration from third-world shitholes and the throngs of barbarians that they're letting through the gates.

The most important feature of the statement is that EU officials are as determined as ever to enable a massive flow of “legal” migration.
Seriously, what the fuck.

“Migration must be supported because the population grows in Africa and shrinks from Europe.”
This right here says it all I think, and shows just how fucking stupid the people in charge doing this are.
 

break these cuffs

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>Hungary risks violating EU values, like the“fundamental rights of migrants,asylum seekers and refugees”.

I'm pretty sure whenever people optimistically signed to that shit, they never expected Europe to be expected to import literally every single homosapien in the continent of Africa, and in every nation adjacent to it.
At least some of them knew exactly what they were doing and either didn't care, or thought it was a good thing.
 

Sissy Galvez

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Why does Soros want to destroy Europe and send in thousands of migrants from shitholes in Africa and the Middle East? Does he get off on seeing Muslim/African rapists attacking kids in Germany? Or that in the last year many of these countries have become increasingly unsafe at night?

It’s amazing to me how these idiots disregard the safety and well being of their countrymen and the people they swore to represent.
 

Uncanny Valley

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Why does Soros want to destroy Europe and send in thousands of migrants from shitholes in Africa and the Middle East? Does he get off on seeing Muslim/African rapists attacking kids in Germany? Or that in the last year many of these countries have become increasingly unsafe at night?

It’s amazing to me how these idiots disregard the safety and well being of their countrymen and the people they swore to represent.
Self-loathing is a fascinating thing.
 

Male Idiot

Loli Hitler
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Why does Soros want to destroy Europe and send in thousands of migrants from shitholes in Africa and the Middle East? Does he get off on seeing Muslim/African rapists attacking kids in Germany? Or that in the last year many of these countries have become increasingly unsafe at night?

It’s amazing to me how these idiots disregard the safety and well being of their countrymen and the people they swore to represent.



He is such a stereotypical happy merchant even Israel can't stand him. With good reason, he would most likely sell them to Syria for 10% lowering of oil prices.
 

Particle Bored

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Why does Soros want to destroy Europe and send in thousands of migrants from shitholes in Africa and the Middle East? Does he get off on seeing Muslim/African rapists attacking kids in Germany? Or that in the last year many of these countries have become increasingly unsafe at night?

It’s amazing to me how these idiots disregard the safety and well being of their countrymen and the people they swore to represent.
The thoroughly cowed (by either fanatical religion or fatigue at resisting cultural invasion) are more easily controlled.
 

Cryin RN

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The main purpose of the cooperation is to give the EU money to Africans to try and block migration
Okay. So the way this plays out is that the price of their closed gates gets higher and higher, since Europe will apparently pay anything to NOT get swarmed with terrorists and trafficked slaves. Hungary's right not to participate in this, it's directly incentivising corruption in countries that cannot be trusted not to act corruptly.
 
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