Iago, Igor & Renfield Speculation - A Shakespearean Mystery

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Up until his conviction, Scott Freeman wasn't officially fired. Let that sink in. A guy who was arrested and indicted for child porn remained a Funimation contractor up until the moment he was convicted. Which is fine. I understand not wanting to officially fire someone until the court speaks (I could also understand them letting him go because At-Will).

But Vic just has accusations thrown at him, with what appears to be a sham investigation, and he gets the boot plus some defamation on top.
Gee I wonder what the difference might be? One appears to be a member of the socjus tribe. The other is a Conservative Christian. Nope! Nothing to see here!
 

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Out of curiosity..,did Nick out 2 of these guys on vics deposition the other night?

He mentioned Sabbat doing horrible things to Schemmel (this is mentioned after Vic says Sabbat isn't an honest person when questioned) and Schemmel being sabbats friend despite this. Anyone else catch this and wonder?

Ty had mentioned that Igor was a stupid idiot who was just being used by Renfield and Sabbat has more power in Funi casting than anyone.
 

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Chuck Huber said to Monica and Ron "Sean and Sabat won't be there for you in court". This strongly suggests they are two of the three people. Since they didn't identify Renfeld until later, that may mean these two are only for Iago and Igor. Sabat and Sean hate each other, which aligns with the hints as well.

Most likely line up:

Iago - Sabat, someone who apparently has been making enemies as he walks along at the top of the pile, seems to have complete control of the Texas dubbing scene and influence outside of it as well. Thinks he's a smooth operator and a manipulator, may believe he can get away with this by lying and using others.

Igor - Sean, a pathetic, miserable little existence. Hates Sabat but still has to put up with him. Has in the past committed TI over petty reasons anyway. Would need someone like Sabat to bill his lawyer. Too clueless to realize he's Igor.

Renfeld - Skye, A useless nobody who insists on believing she's important in extreme excess beyond what she actually is. Is butt-buddies with Monica, Ron, and Sabat despite - again - being completely unimportant and a nobody. Hasn't done anything effective, but insists she's part of 'the conspiracy'. Has Sabat (here Iago)'s favor, too stupid to know she's been caught.

There are a few issues with this casting.

Sabat - has too deep a voice, is principal - not vice-principal - of Okatron, hasn't been caught flexing his money online yet. Has been caught doing crap several times, making it harder to believe he actually thinks his hands are clean. Unclear if his renovation has already been paid for or not.

Sean - Has flexed his money online. Doesn't appear to have actually done anything, so it's rather odd for him to be cast as 'Igor' who does all the dirty work for Sabat. Sabat has been caught doing things like spreading defamatory things about Vic in private and swinging TI, while Sean has only been caught with a stupid Youtube video that insinuated Vic was a pedo.

Skye - She's never done anything of any use. Even Marzgurl has been more effective at doing damage to Vic than her. Renfeld may have male pronouns.

A wild take would be flipping Sean and Sabat because of the money flex. The last possibility is bumping Sean and Sabat down one rank on the list, and an even bigger, more powerful figure is Iago. The issue with this theory is that Nick and Ty, despite actively hating Iago, haven't hinted at a more powerful figure in the shadows basically at all.
 

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Renfeld - Skye, A useless nobody who insists on believing she's important in extreme excess beyond what she actually is. Is butt-buddies with Monica, Ron, and Sabat despite - again - being completely unimportant and a nobody. Hasn't done anything effective, but insists she's part of 'the conspiracy'. Has Sabat (here Iago)'s favor, too stupid to know she's been caught.

There are a few issues with this casting.
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Skye - She's never done anything of any use. Even Marzgurl has been more effective at doing damage to Vic than her. Renfeld may have male pronouns.
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IMHO, all what you said does point even more in Marzgurls direction than to Dominique Skye. As you said yourself Marzgurl was very effective doing damage to Vic, but she also coined the #kickvic phrase.
Skye is just a loudmouth and a worthless costhot riding on the kickvic wave, the same goes for Pridemore, but she lacks the brain for such a op.
 

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After these last few streams I'm all in on Sabat, Schemmel, and Marzgurl. If Schemmel isn't aware of what Sabat allegedly did to him, then in my book he must be Igor. He also could have done things behind the scenes we don't know about.
 

Clockwork Dragon

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is principal - not vice-principal - of Okatron
Wasn't Iago a vice-principal of Funimation? In which case he probably fits nicely. That whole discussion of what constitutes a principal is ages ago in terms of this mess, so my memory might be faulty.

I do think Schemmel is Renfield, because Renfield was the abused and tortured victim of Dracula, and supposedly Sabat did something to Schemmel. I do wonder what and hope we get some deets.
 

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The issue I have with Marzgurl being Renfield is when Ty announced Renfield it appeared that Renfield was never thought to be a possible court target, more of a surprise. Marzgurl was an assumed target from the get go so just have a hard time believing shes Renfield due to being a possible target since BHBH took up the case.
 

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Have we considered the possibility that Iago, and Igor are flipped? Sabat as Igor, Schemmel as Iago? Schemmel's laid low, bragged about his wealth, and Sabat's apparently done a ton of behind the scenes dirty work here.
 
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Have we considered the possibility that Iago, and Igor are flipped? Sabat as Igor, Schemmel as Iago? Schemmel's laid low, bragged about his wealth, and Sabat's apparently done a ton of behind the scenes dirty work here.
Is Schemmel a vice-principal of Funimation? Sabat was theoretically called that even if that is not one of his titles, because he seems to have a lot of control over what goes on at Funimation, maybe even inclusing hiring and firing powers.
 

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Is Schemmel a vice-principal of Funimation? Sabat was theoretically called that even if that is not one of his titles, because he seems to have a lot of control over what goes on at Funimation, maybe even inclusing hiring and firing powers.
He is. He owns the fucking recording studio and gives funimation special deals for letting them use it. He has that company by the balls lol
 
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Is Schemmel a vice-principal of Funimation? Sabat was theoretically called that even if that is not one of his titles, because he seems to have a lot of control over what goes on at Funimation, maybe even inclusing hiring and firing powers.
It isn't a title you're given. It's a legal status. An actual "principal" would be a named officer or other person with explicit authority. A "vice principal" is someone who may or may not have an official title of some sort with the corporation, but whether or not he does, has the power to direct other employees, hire, fire, represent the company, and manage either the entire business or some division of it.

Thus, the corporation can be held liable for his actions regardless of whether or not he has any power on paper.
 

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I still think Iago=Sabat and Igor=Schemmel, but I could see them being flipped if when BHBH first assigned those names they were going off of information they got from Vic. If they asked Vic at the start about enemies at Funimation, Schemmel probably would have been near the top of the list.
 

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I think you guys are overlooking something.
Nick said in a stream a while back that Iago called Vic "a pedophile" in the fall of 2018.
Just recently, Nick said SABAT called Vic "a pedophile."

Iago = Sabat confirmed as far as I'm concerned.
No idea about Renfield but Iago = Sabat, Igor = Schemmel, it makes the most sense IMO, Schemmel has always been a petty sad little fuck who spergs at every opportunity.
 
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It isn't a title you're given. It's a legal status. An actual "principal" would be a named officer or other person with explicit authority. A "vice principal" is someone who may or may not have an official title of some sort with the corporation, but whether or not he does, has the power to direct other employees, hire, fire, represent the company, and manage either the entire business or some division of it.

Thus, the corporation can be held liable for his actions regardless of whether or not he has any power on paper.
We've had Nick talk about Funimation bending over backwards / giving a seat at the table for Sabat in contracts that shouldn't really involve him, such as licensing deals. He's also got a story about Sabat almost fucking over Schemmel which people suspect is recasting Goku, unless Schemmel complied to demands.

I've been on the Iago = Sabat train since we first got the clues, what sealed it for me was the later clue, has money tied up in a project, which fits with the house renovation.
 

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Did they not gender Igor or renfield in any of the convos by accident? Just used words like 'they'?
 
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