Ice Poseidon / Paul Denino - insane Runescape streamer now doing Twitch IRL, always gets trolled/swatted, thotties and drugs

Imperial Guardsman

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Ice gets shit on a lot and for good reason. Still, there was something there. He got "big" for a reason. His talent to act exceptional and be genuinely funny in public is something I would not discount completely. People will likely look back at his "legacy of shit" in a negative way but ice could have been a genuinely good entertainer.

The reasons for his failure are in my book:

- His lack of discipline
- Mental health:
IRL streaming fucks with your private life and it's hard to seperate.
Extremely toxic trolls and record amount of swattings fucked up his streams and his mental health.
- The concept of IRL streams of the "ice poseidon school" is not compatible with today's world. People get too offended and triggered.
- Bad people around him
- Ice eventually came across as an egomaniac which burned bridges with his fans



@not I can provide info for the thread if you need anything. E.g. I can dig up old videos.

I guess I am well informed on ice and his orbiters but not on the more recent stuff. I kinda know what happened to Blade through Metokur but that's it?
I generally agree with your reasons for his failure. His more vocal "toxic" fans certainly played a part in messing with him mentally. As someone who only started to watch some of his streams in late April/early May 2018, I don't really know why people hated Caroline so much when Ice was dating her, maybe you could enlighten me on that. On that topic I think the aftermath of the Horseshoe Bay incident certainly fucked with him,with the audience reaction seeming to me and most likely ice as well being that his audience didn't want him to be happy. The subsequent depression that Ice has seemingly fallen into contributing to his existing lack of discipline and mental health issues.

The "ice poseidon" style of IRL doesn't fully work now, there will be an audience for it but with demonetization and deplatforming there is little chance of anything really lasting. I think Ice knows he is at the end of his career as a streamer or atleast a succesful one which is why he keeps trying to revisit old ideas to recapture old success as well as doing what fans wanted (EU RV Trip) but failing to deliver on the people they wanted for the trip (Fans wanted Bjorn for the EU RV Trip) as well as his continued making up excuses not to stream. To me it seems like Ice is trying to become a "travel streamer" where he goes to different places in the world and does things he thinks people would have an interest in as way to drum up viewership. But I don't think that style really will work for youtube or mixer (he is going to be banned from mixer if he hasn't already) and with youtube removing the livestream section on trending I don't think he will be able to revive his career.

I haven't watched an Ice stream in months (last one was when he was in Japan looking for the squid girl figure) or his orbiters for that matter. I have kept an eye on blade through IP2 and Jim just because of my own interest in seeing how far someone I used to watch almost 10 years ago and the end of their relevancy and life (Blade is going to be dead by 2030 for sure) which is sad and a good case study of a former minor e-celeb.
 

RJ MacReady

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Ice paid the price for his willful permissiveness. That's all there is to it and rationalising it as mere stupidity and changing tastes is staggeringly naive. There are only so many times you can give a pulpit to the mentally unstable, get swatted, have hundreds of your fans harass any business you patronise or deal with bystanders angered by your loud, obnoxious TTS donations before you can no longer deny that you're encouraging it for a very obvious and demonstrable reward, and for any normal person it'd be after the first time.

Even years after his peak it seems like people still gobble up his excuses even as they criticise him.
 

Ulver

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I think he's being given too much leeway in the "he could do better if he tried" department. I forget the psychological term for it but a huge amount of people who are just better than average at something (not hugely better, just slightly above average) will purposely lose interest in getting better because they want that made in mental excuse to themselves that "I could've done better but I just didn't want to".

Paul never could've ended up any way better than what we're seeing. He was a bright little comet of autism that rightfully and predictably burnt out quickly. You can't genuinely say things like "well if he did this a little less autistically he could still be popular" because that was never a realistic option, he is a sped through and through and to change that is essentially saying "well if he was a completely different person he could have done better".
 

The best and greatest

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I don't like Ice for the matter that he readily exploits people worse off than himself for content. Its like if Jackass just outsourced all the pain and misery on dirty homeless people. There was one stream where I think they recreated a Jackass stunt with homeless people they found on the street they gave like 20 bucks to debase themselves on the web. Wish I could find it.
 

Denmark Mafia

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I don't like Ice for the matter that he readily exploits people worse off than himself for content. Its like if Jackass just outsourced all the pain and misery on dirty homeless people. There was one stream where I think they recreated a Jackass stunt with homeless people they found on the street they gave like 20 bucks to debase themselves on the web. Wish I could find it.
This?


Not straight up homeless, but most of ice's stream snipers are pretty much homeless.
There's also Cx Factor 2 which was yet another dumpster fire...
 

The best and greatest

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This?


Not straight up homeless, but most of ice's stream snipers are pretty much homeless.
There's also Cx Factor 2 which was yet another dumpster fire...
What I remember was Ice and co. sitting around in a basement with paintball guns paying homeless people to get shot with them (I think without clothes on too.) I could be mis-remembering though.
 

Denmark Mafia

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What I remember was Ice and co. sitting around in a basement with paintball guns paying homeless people to get shot with them (I think without clothes on too.) I could be mis-remembering though.
That's the sequel to the video I posted:


It contains one homeless black guy and they all get shot with paintballs, etc. They also share the blood of the homeless guy by carelessly shaving the heads of everyone.
 

Shady Attorney

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Nigga you can't just leave us on the hook like that.
Guy allegedly pukes up blood, friends freak out but dawdle in calling ambulance (one argues it's too expensive), they finally dial 911, one guy tells the other he's getting kicked out after this, cops arrive to see the situation, ambulance then shows up to take the drunk, and not one of them asked which hospital their friend was being taken.
 

jellycar

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Guy allegedly pukes up blood, friends freak out but dawdle in calling ambulance (one argues it's too expensive), they finally dial 911, one guy tells the other he's getting kicked out after this, cops arrive to see the situation, ambulance then shows up to take the drunk, and not one of them asked which hospital their friend was being taken.
And it was all streamed live because hes a dumbass
 

ModelCitizen

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And it was all streamed live because hes a dumbass
That Attila guy allegedly paid Blade in order to be able to leech from him but hes a complete idiot with no shame and self awareness, when the police showed up the usual nbomb TTS spam occurred as well as other incriminating shit that you don't want the police to hear, they got lucky there, shame about Bjorn though, of all the shitheads there hes the least to deserve that.

And when he got called out for the inappropriate TTS's his response was "Then don't donate".
 

ModelCitizen

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Ice has pretty much given up on his plan to get partnered on Mixer (denied for like the 4th time), he's gonna do YouTube for IRL and Mixer for gaming and try to pull YouTube viewers to his Mixer streams, he went live on YouTube a bit a go and got a solid 1.2k with a peak of 2.1k (Blade's normal audience), he wants to do IRL despite the outbreak (high risk, high reward move) and if the succeeds he could recover some of his audience and most importantly there could be a new generation of Andy's.
 

Shaka Brah

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Ice has pretty much given up on his plan to get partnered on Mixer (denied for like the 4th time), he's gonna do YouTube for IRL and Mixer for gaming and try to pull YouTube viewers to his Mixer streams, he went live on YouTube a bit a go and got a solid 1.2k with a peak of 2.1k (Blade's normal audience), he wants to do IRL despite the outbreak (high risk, high reward move) and if the succeeds he could recover some of his audience and most importantly there could be a new generation of Andy's.
I hope this saga ends with something insane, like Ice trying to get out of a national guard quarantine zone.
 

Sir Wesley Tailpipe

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You just know Mixer is doing great when over 25% of their referral traffic is coming from Ice Poseidon and the Andys.
Mixer is working out as well as the Zine did.
You would think Microsoft would learn not to go into saturated markets against entrenched competitors, but this situation is even dumber, considering Twitch and YouTube have integration in their competitors’ products.
 

Denmark Mafia

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As most of us know the former ice poseidon community puts the toxic in toxic and the autism in autism. Us kiwi retards have nothing on this group of people. After both of ice's sub reddits got banned they have now gathered here:


Needless to say, they are still shitting on ice and with good reason. His content now is complete garbage and he went from 30k Andy to 400 Andy.

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Also from what I have seen Bjorn is still streaming. He had to delete today's VOD because he somehow got tricked into showing hardcore porn on stream.

I really need to start looking more into this fascinating degen community.
There is a Blade thread but I think this is also relevant in this thread lmfao.

 
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Denmark Mafia

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This is the ip2 community in a nutshell:
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Currently Greekgodx is also under fire from them. Greek and ice have always shared certain toxic parts of their communities.
From what I gather Greek is not fat anymore and the autists are mad about that because now he is harder to meme. He is also trying to shake off the Cx community which causes massive ass hurt. Of course his reddit is getting bombarded with the usual shit posts:

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I still like their memes though. And it's kinda impressive how feared this community is all over the internet. They destroyed ice's career and right now everybody is trying to disassociate (See above: Twitch streamer Boneclinks). They are like a bizarro world version of ResetEra @DriveByTrolling . Similarly racist, misogynistic and toxic, just more honest about it. Even their hate campaigns are comparable.

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More on Boneclinks getting harassed by ip2:

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Seems they are taking it well:
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