If the UK bans porn............Crime increases.

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Coolio55

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The ban only applies to sites hosted in the UK (and idiots who want to lose customers if I am correct about pornhub's current strategy)

It also only applies to 3D so technically the UK state is actually promoting furry and hentai.

Also: Like the pirate bay block I assume it will be at DNS level only so you can easily bypass it on a fucking ipad (for free too).
 

nonvir_1984

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Oh and one further point to build on my previous one and to give an answer to OP:

Considering that porn causes masturbation and masturbation causes low dopamine (and thus lethargy and depression), yes it's likely to see more criminality if porn was effectively banned (they won't be able to). But you'd also see more work, more studying, more entrepeneurship, more political resistance etc.
Ya know that the Proud Boys have a no masturbation rule. Given your causal linkage theory, it seems that the explanation of the Proud Boys violence is they don't do enough wanking.
And you know in Islam (and jihad in particular) wanking is haram; you can get at least flogged for doing it (which might actually be a reaosn to do it, for some I suppose; but I digress) . So the violence we see so many Muslims doing to each other is they aren't permitted to have a good old wank. So, we can solve islamist terrorism by flooding their countries with porn (we have achieved that with Pakistan) and then convince them to spank the monkey. World peace would ensue.
Not sure what to do about the idiot in Christchurch, though. Get him interested in sheep?
 

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Ya know that the Proud Boys have a no masturbation rule.
I had no idea. Interesting.

So the violence we see so many Muslims doing to each other is they aren't permitted to have a good old wank. So, we can solve islamist terrorism by flooding their countries with porn (we have achieved that with Pakistan) and then convince them to spank the monkey.

Well there are other factors for increased muslim aggression. Circumcission increases the time it takes to dissipate cortisol (stress hormone) by a factor of 6 and infant circumcission causes PTSD in pretty high percentages (higher than desert storm veterans). Inbreeding increases aggression. Inbreeding causes lower IQ and lower IQ causes higher criminality (until you go below 80 when it starts to decrease again). And the quran and hadith call for violence (like in christanity and judaism) and the most reverred person in islam is a warlord (unlike christianity and judaism).

So yeah, probably wouldn't fulfill the goals completely, but it would have some effect.
 

nonvir_1984

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I had no idea. Interesting.



Well there are other factors for increased muslim aggression. Circumcission increases the time it takes to dissipate cortisol (stress hormone) by a factor of 6 and infant circumcission causes PTSD in pretty high percentages (higher than desert storm veterans). Inbreeding increases aggression. Inbreeding causes lower IQ and lower IQ causes higher criminality (until you go below 80 when it starts to decrease again). And the quran and hadith call for violence (like in christanity and judaism) and the most reverred person in islam is a warlord (unlike christianity and judaism).

So yeah, probably wouldn't fulfill the goals completely, but it would have some effect.
Yeah. I have the Proud Boys manifesto somewhere. It is wild. Like, if you want to become a member you have to recite the name of six breakfast cerials while they beat the shit out of you. I thought it was like some frat stunt - you know where in Harvard to get into some of the secret societies you have to put a billard ball in your mouth. Problem is you can't get it out without a jaw dislocation. If you you tell them to got fuck themselves, they let you in because you are smart.
But I agree, all the other stuff can't do a person the power of good and a spot of wanking never hurt anyone. But preventing people having any sort of interaction with members of the opposite sex, or - what is worse, saying interaction with non-muslims must royally fuck you up. just go look up al wala wal bara. The fundamentalists have an actual doctrine for hating not Muslims.
Problem is that many of them have not drunk that koolaid but are being caught up in it. It's like jim Jones from the 6th century. With camels.
 

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I think there are problems with porn. Not necessarily it’s existence but the type, violence levels and prevalence.

Go onto any site and look at how much of that porn is thinly disguised violence against women rather than both parties enjoying it. That’s a problem because it’s taking what were fairly niche activities and the idea that violence is normal mainstream. That has real life implications. We’ve had a spate of cases in the UK where people have been killed and the ‘just rough sex gone wrong m’lud’ defence has been used successfully. Look up the Natalie connelly case for example. She did like rough sex. But she was killed in a brutal prolonged assault with alcohol levels that would have rendered her incapable of consent or even standing. The guy shoved a trigger spray bottle into her vagina and ripped it out, causing an arterial bleed, for example. He beat her for hours and didn’t seek medical attention when she’d fallen/been thrown down the stairs md was dying.

The judge accepted that her blown out orbit was just her stumbling around drunk, and the guy got three years BECAUSE she had a historybofnliming rough sex. It later turned out he had previous for being a violent nutter with a history of violence against women. So what’s that got to do with porn? Well the climate of normalising violent sex is new - I honestly can’t think that twenty years back a jury would accept that a person consented to be beaten to death by a sexual partner. I think that’s linked to the prevalence and normalisation of violent porn. We’ve had a few of these cases recently and I always find them disturbing.

The availability as well is an issue. Pretty young kids to seeing some extreme stuff at an age when they arent able to deal with it. We have a lot of boys growing up with the idea that sex is something you to TO women, not WITH them. That’s not healthy.

The UK would be stupid to try to ban porn. That won’t work. Stopping violent nutcases killing their partners and using rough sex as an excuse would be good. As would some way of teaching kids that what they’re seeing isn’t reality.

I guess in a nutshell I don’t care what consenting adults do in private. I DO care about how the increased sexualisation of society has knock on consequences.

Actually thinking about it as well, the ‘no kink shaming’ stuff isn’t good either. Again, do whatever you want in private, I care not. You want to be a furry or beat each other with cheese graters? Crack on, just keep it indoors. But men acting out autogynephile fetishes in public? That’s a direct result of sexual liberalisation because people don’t want to be judgy. Drag queen storytime teller turning out to be a pedo? Yeah that’s happened because no one wants to look prudish and say ‘fuck no, stick to the Gruffalo and spot goes to the circus.’


Porn in and of itself? Meh, whatever. Violent porn everywhere at the click of a button and people having to be sex positive about absolutely fucking everything? Nope.
 

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I think there are problems with porn. Not necessarily it’s existence but the type, violence levels and prevalence.

Go onto any site and look at how much of that porn is thinly disguised violence against women rather than both parties enjoying it. That’s a problem because it’s taking what were fairly niche activities and the idea that violence is normal mainstream. That has real life implications. We’ve had a spate of cases in the UK where people have been killed and the ‘just rough sex gone wrong m’lud’ defence has been used successfully. Look up the Natalie connelly case for example. She did like rough sex. But she was killed in a brutal prolonged assault with alcohol levels that would have rendered her incapable of consent or even standing. The guy shoved a trigger spray bottle into her vagina and ripped it out, causing an arterial bleed, for example. He beat her for hours and didn’t seek medical attention when she’d fallen/been thrown down the stairs md was dying.

Ok, let's start at the top: You're implying that violence against women isn't generally justified. They're effectively overgrown children and must be disciplined the same way. Women don't respect logic or reason, especially when they're in a bad mood, but by god they'll respect pain. The problem is that modern culture has made disciplining women so taboo that it never happens, so they get more extreme is their bizarre behavior until some one finally has enough and kills or maims one of them.

If you want to prevent serious violence against women resulting in permanent damage, you need to make it legal to give her a thorough slapping and/or spanking (rule of thumb and all that), as getting put in their place will make their extreme behavior stop before it goes too far. Most women who get hit have it coming, the vast majority, I'd argue, but the devils are always in the details. The blanket 'don't hit women, dont' discipline women' nonsense needs to stop.

Now, that said, I do think pornography is an issue. I've been trying to remove myself from it due to the fact that it causes long-term alterations to neurophysiology, especially in men. It makes cognition different, it makes people less motivated, and less able to properly interact with one another. Detailed studies haven't been made because it's impossible to find a control group in the West.

When pornography is banned in the UK crime will skyrocket, because a shitload of people will simply break the ban, via proxy and vpn, and then get arrested or some shit. As for the streets of london? Well, maybe if white men aren't inundated with pornography there's a chance they'll start removing the kabab invaders from their midsts. Which would also raise crime rates, but i'm not holding my breath on that one.
 

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If they banned porn all of devaintart user base would probably start going outside and seeing the shit they post there will definitely be increase of kid diddling and bike pump thefts because internet porn is the only thing keeping those weirdos inside of their homes.
 

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Is this going to be the post apocalyptic world the UK will become? But instead of all women being executed they banned porn sites lol