If transgender’s could actually scientifically change their gender, would you be willing to date them? -

Would you date such a person?

  • Yes

    Votes: 48 25.3%
  • No

    Votes: 142 74.7%

  • Total voters
    190

Creepy Pig Man

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This is such scifi fantasy crap that I can't take it seriously; if you can change them at such a fundamental level they're basically going to be an entirely different person. Why would I want anything to do with that? At that level of bioengineering I could just have a big tiddied wahmen grown in a vat with none of the baggage.
 
OP, I think you mean change their sex, since that's the biological aspect. Where as gender is the psychosocial dynamic observed as a manifestation of sex in humans.

No it’s true, the term “gender” actually was coined to distinguish the mental from the physical.
No it was not. Recently the trans people want to claim that's the case, but no, that's wrong. Gender used to mean something akin to "Class", it was ones place in society. Sex would be a part of that, but less than socioeconomic standing.
Later as we sort of rejected classism to a point, at least in the public mind, and gender wasn't used much. Later on, people got increasingly sensitive about the word "Sex" meaning biological sex, because it's also used to mean sexual intercourse, which is dirty and improper. So "Gender" got be to used again, this time as a synonym for sex. That's where we are now, although the astroturfed fake meaning you gave is being used enough to become a legitimate definition.

The reason I protest saying that's what it always meant is that people use that to claim people said something they didn't. A person in 1993 who said something about gender meant "sex" and that's it. Same in 2000. Trying to retroactively put words in people's mouth is disingenuous, and I think trying to claim gender always meant "gender roles and social place" is untrue.

"OP I think you mean change their sex" holy shit get the fuck out of your own asshole...
 
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No it was not. Recently the trans people want to claim that's the case, but no, that's wrong. Gender used to mean something akin to "Class", it was ones place in society. Sex would be a part of that, but less than socioeconomic standing.
Later as we sort of rejected classism to a point, at least in the public mind, and gender wasn't used much. Later on, people got increasingly sensitive about the word "Sex" meaning biological sex, because it's also used to mean sexual intercourse, which is dirty and improper. So "Gender" got be to used again, this time as a synonym for sex. That's where we are now, although the astroturfed fake meaning you gave is being used enough to become a legitimate definition.

The reason I protest saying that's what it always meant is that people use that to claim people said something they didn't. A person in 1993 who said something about gender meant "sex" and that's it. Same in 2000. Trying to retroactively put words in people's mouth is disingenuous, and I think trying to claim gender always meant "gender roles and social place" is untrue.

"OP I think you mean change their sex" holy shit get the fuck out of your own asshole...
Yeah we’re essentially saying the same thing here.
 

MrTickles

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What OP is asking, is would I fuck Dax?



Well yes, yes indeed.
 
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No. Every cell in their brains would still have their original DNA, imagine what happens when the host body starts rejecting it, and they'd have to be on drugs lowering their immune response for the rest of their lives. Given how high STD rates among troons already are, that sounds like a great idea. Besides, a male's brain is rarely going to fit into a female cranium. Then again, there's a large cohort of hairy, balding middle-aged troons on reddit who dream of becoming a "fourteen year old bimbo slut" and they'd probably gladly lop off part of their brain to become the mindless fuckholes they fetishize. Therefore still no. It would be a mentally impaired lunatic in a deceptively normal looking package, making them more dangerous than the ma'ams these days that you see coming a mile away and can brace for.
 

nonvir_1984

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Like those fish that change their sex? Sex with fish. Now, I'd never thought of that.
To answer this will require some serious sperging.
But no, because they can't scientifically change their gender. The reason is this.
1. if you mean by "gender" sex, then you would be changing their chromosomes and they would no longer be the person they were - they would be entirely different, except that they would, presumably, retain their memories. But, from a gender (sex) point of view, they would be a different being, assuming that personal identity inheres in bodily continuity not mind or memory continuity. [Think of this example: transplant a brain from say AOC into the Donald's body. What do you have? Trump or AOC. Apart from the fact of seeing the president with red lipstick hanging out with the squad.... but I digress.] The point is under that scenario - chaning genetic make up it is impossible to date what there was before, because it ceased to exist.
2. if you mean by gender "what they think they are", and then what you are keeping is the body (though surgically altering it) but kind of rewiring the brain. But apart from the fact that you generally need XX chromosomes to genuinely female and you would be with something that was inauthentic, rewiring the brain will also change what you started with. So, again, you can't date what was there in the beginning. But if he looked like this, and my pension depended on it, I might consider it, provided I could have a stiff gin first. Unfortunately most of them don't look like that.

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For there not to be an issue. Humanity would have to be so far advanced and in an evolutionary state, that at birth we would be born genderless. Capable of coping with that development in the first stage of life, so that by sixteen or more years approximately and before actual adulthood when the brain is fully developed around twenty-five as a full grown adult. The Individual could undergo a biological and chemical reaction in tandem with their mental state, to the gender they identify with.

Though I think, it would be easier for us to develop medicines or treatments that could correct any gender disassociation issues. At the very least it would be a whole lot less extreme then brain transplants, surgery and chemical inducing alterations to the body.

How moral it all is, I don't know. Sexual orientation to me is whatever. You're being gay or not is of no consequence in my opinion. Or a guy who wants to dress as a women, visa versa, whatever.

So unless you are born with an issue or some type of physical impairment, lack of genitalia or multiple sets.

I personally prefer not having to guess someones gender, sex, or whatever. And that for the most part if not all is a mental issue. With no guarantee of those mental issues being currently resolved by 'changing gender' movement. And the distinct line between gender when it comes to sports needs to be upheld.
 

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I think the most important question is how long do I have to wait for this tech before I can use it on the guy locked up in my basement who I've been gaslighting into thinking he's my Concubine? Smuggling hormones into his gruel is a fucking bore and the implants cost a fortune.
 
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No because I would already have become a cyborg with no emotions but epic gamer ones like pwn and win
 

Calooby

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Just give them death. They're suffering. Put them out of their misery.
 

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The concept seems counter intuitive. If such a process exists, it would entail:
  • Removing your brain
  • Making certain brain adjustments, so that it would fit with the female endocrine system
  • Taking your original DNA, removing the Y chromosome and duplicating the X chromosome.*
  • Having the ability to grow a body around the new brain, and then it perfectly develops into an adult in gestation(sans brain)
  • The new body does not reject the origional brain organ
*I'm not sure that would work, because duplicating the X chromosome(given the data redundancy) could just lead to a body full of defects. So like creating a male, you would need another person to contribute DNA(most likely the subjects father's x chromosome)

Hypothetically, you could mutate the X or Y chromosome to its opposite, but it would require extreme levels of genetic enginerring to fantastical levels.

The simpliest way would be to just clone the body as XY and remove the Sry gene. But, the body would still be, genetically male, and retain certain male characteristics(but it would be a fairly close approximation). The opposite scenario, would require something with similar results. Both would be infertile as well..

Ok, what would be more likely: geneticists, in the future, would be able to isolate the 'dysphoria' defect(or whatever mental illness)and engineer it out of existence. Way less money and way less risk...

So to the answer question: would I date this hypothetical? No, because it would never exist
 
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Pitere pit

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It is not that they are trans, but this disorder brings a lot of other ones like NPD, BPD, autism and others.
 
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The concept seems counter intuitive. If such a process exists, it would entail:
  • Removing your brain
  • Making certain brain adjustments, so that it would fit with the female endocrine system
  • Taking your original DNA, removing the Y chromosome and duplicating the X chromosome.*
  • Having the ability to grow a body around the new brain, and then it perfectly develops into an adult in gestation(sans brain)
  • The new body does not reject the origional brain organ
*I'm not sure that would work, because duplicating the X chromosome(given the data redundancy) could just lead to a body full of defects. So like creating a male, you would need another person to contribute DNA(most likely the subjects father's x chromosome)

Hypothetically, you could mutate the X or Y chromosome to its opposite, but it would require extreme levels of genetic enginerring to fantastical levels.

The simpliest way would be to just clone the body as XY and remove the Sry gene. But, the body would still be, genetically male, and retain certain male characteristics(but it would be a fairly close approximation). The opposite scenario, would require something with similar results. Both would be infertile as well..

Ok, what would be more likely: geneticists, in the future, would be able to isolate the 'dysphoria' defect(or whatever mental illness)and engineer it out of existence. Way less money and way less risk...

So to the answer question: would I date this hypothetical? No, because it would never exist
You're overthinking it anyway because as you basically end up acknowledging, the hypothetical requires technology akin to magic. It's purely an academic question. So saying "No because that wouldn't happen", while true, is also kind of missing the point.
 
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