I'm a man, not a "top" - Bathhouse language infects the mainstream

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Something I have noticed a lot over the past few years is how language that I can only assume comes from the gay community has become mainstream. I have noticed this a lot with gen Z and gen Z girls in particular, especially the ones that are more plugged into social issues and left-wing politics. I recently heard a girl (asexual, inexperienced, kind of a young naïve type) refer to one of her friends (who I believe was a high schooler at the time) as a "cockslut" for dating around. There was nothing explicilty sexual in this scenario she described, it was just an equation that meeting and dating different men = "cockslut." Not even the classic slut would suffice, but COCKSLUT. That sounds like something straight out of a Pornhub title, and I nearly gagged when I heard that.

There used to be a stereotype that people who were into "geeky" or "nerdy" things were more innocent and wholesome than the average person. The internet (especially places like 4chan and Tumblr) has really inverted that dynamic. People who get into "fandom" and "fanfic" (which seems to frequently just be gay wish fulfillment fantasies) communities are the worst. It seems like the people who get into these kind of communities have no sense of privacy or subtlety at all, and every relationship they talk about (among either real people or characters) contains some kind of sodomy, BDSM, something like that. In the anime community in particular, they will literally look at any friendly relationship between two characters (and even some antagonistic relationships) as evidence that the two are fucking. I don't think they make the connection between that and the "nice guy" phenomenon, which is just the exact same logic applied to real life relationships, but I digress. I'm really talking about the way people talk IRL, but that is a place where some of this might come from.

The most common example I have seen is the replacement of previous terms for people in a relationship, like man and woman, dominant and submissive, "wears the pants in the relationship," and so on, with "top" and "bottom." This comes off as particularly pornographic, because it doesn't see relationships (sexual or asexual) as something between two actual humans, but just literal sex positions. I find it so degrading and dehumanizing to be called a "top." I'm a man. I am dominant in my relationships, but it's not just about cummies. I'm a human being. It strikes me as ridiculous to consider "top" to be less degrading than "man."
 

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Felarya was originally created to cater to vorarephiles. Specifically, those who want to see giant women swallow people whole. Over the years, the setting has evolved to feature a lot more than that, but vore is still the cornerstone of the setting. Karbo is a vorarephile, as are most of the long-standing and dedicated fans of Felarya. So it may be natural to assume that as someone who isn't a vorarephile, Felarya won't appeal to you. But I'm not a vorarephile, and I'm a fervent enough fan of Felarya to create and moderate a subreddit for it. So this is where I present my pitch to the rest of the world. What does Felarya offer to distinguish itself, other than vore? "I'm not a vorarephile, why should I care about Felarya?"

Felarya's most prominent selling point, other than the vore, is the immense amount of worldbuilding that goes into it. The world of Felarya has been developed far beyond what any of the main comics have explored, and a dive through the wiki will reveal dozens of fantastic settings. When not drawing vore, Karbo depicts many of these settings in breathtaking scenery drawings. Much of the world of Felarya has been built with community participation; while Karbo has the final say in what does or does not get implemented, ideas from fans are a huge part of the creative process and there are still many blanks left to fill.

Felarya's cast is almost entirely female, and the way it handles this is honestly fairly commendable. If you liked how Touhou Project treats its cast (ignoring fanworks, anyway), you'll find a lot to love about Felarya's presentation, too. No character in canon has motives that revolve around men or romance, and there aren't many characters who are designed intentionally to be sexy, beyond the general cuteness that comes with the anime-like style. Felarya's worst offenders in that regard (Vivian) are still a far cry from the absurdity you find in World of Warcraft or League of Legends, and are known in-universe as being seductive, as opposed to supposedly serious warriors or assassins. Yes, most characters are totally nude, but this is justified given the setting and Karbo's work never goes out of its way to shove this in your face, instead just treating it as normal and unremarkable so that eventually you don't even notice.

The most significant appeal about Felarya for me though is how it encourages us to question the way we think about the world, and our place in it. Felarya in general, and Crisis in particular, make us ask the question "What does it mean to be a good person?" It seems obvious to us that killing other people would be evil, and in any other media a creature that hunts and eats humans is seen as either a heinous monster or simply not smart enough to understand morality. But then we have Crisis. Humans (Nekos in particular, but small humanoids in general) are Crisis's favorite food, and if she can she'll eat them by the dozens. But as you see more of Crisis behind her appetite and how she acts around her friends (both other giants and the rare few humans she doesn't eat), she reveals herself as one of the kindest and most compassionate people you're ever likely to meet, fiercely loyal and always eager to help others. Besides her diet, Crisis doesn't have a single mean bone in her body. And while Crisis is a particularly strong example, she's far from an isolated case. Felarya teems with giants who are more or less good at heart, but are none the less predators to humans. Can you judge them for that? As natural predators to humans in the setting, is it really more heinous than a lion eating gazelle? The best art is distinguished by its ability to make you question things that before you took for granted, and on this Felarya delivers powerfully.

So do you wonder what the world would be like if humans weren't at the top of it? Annoyed by the portrayal of women in most media and looking for a breath of fresh air? Do you want to participate in the building of a massive and detailed world, or write stories in wondrous settings described but as of yet barely touched? Are you a fan of monster girls looking for a fix in the lulls between new chapters of Monster Musume? If you answered yes to any of those questions and can at least tolerate vore, you may have just come to the right place.
 

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I always thought that the terms "top" and "bottom" were simply used as shorthand to briefly communicate what you're into to a prospective partner. I don't think it's really about creating an identity; it's more about preference. Then again, I've never heard the terms used outside of a homosexual male context.
 

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Something I have noticed a lot over the past few years is how language that I can only assume comes from the gay community has become mainstream. I have noticed this a lot with gen Z and gen Z girls in particular, especially the ones that are more plugged into social issues and left-wing politics. I recently heard a girl (asexual, inexperienced, kind of a young naïve type) refer to one of her friends (who I believe was a high schooler at the time) as a "cockslut" for dating around. There was nothing explicilty sexual in this scenario she described, it was just an equation that meeting and dating different men = "cockslut." Not even the classic slut would suffice, but COCKSLUT. That sounds like something straight out of a Pornhub title, and I nearly gagged when I heard that.

There used to be a stereotype that people who were into "geeky" or "nerdy" things were more innocent and wholesome than the average person. The internet (especially places like 4chan and Tumblr) has really inverted that dynamic. People who get into "fandom" and "fanfic" (which seems to frequently just be gay wish fulfillment fantasies) communities are the worst. It seems like the people who get into these kind of communities have no sense of privacy or subtlety at all, and every relationship they talk about (among either real people or characters) contains some kind of sodomy, BDSM, something like that. In the anime community in particular, they will literally look at any friendly relationship between two characters (and even some antagonistic relationships) as evidence that the two are fucking. I don't think they make the connection between that and the "nice guy" phenomenon, which is just the exact same logic applied to real life relationships, but I digress. I'm really talking about the way people talk IRL, but that is a place where some of this might come from.

The most common example I have seen is the replacement of previous terms for people in a relationship, like man and woman, dominant and submissive, "wears the pants in the relationship," and so on, with "top" and "bottom." This comes off as particularly pornographic, because it doesn't see relationships (sexual or asexual) as something between two actual humans, but just literal sex positions. I find it so degrading and dehumanizing to be called a "top." I'm a man. I am dominant in my relationships, but it's not just about cummies. I'm a human being. It strikes me as ridiculous to consider "top" to be less degrading than "man."
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