Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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Where are you supposed to meet people IRL if you don't have many friends? Find clubs or something? Is that what you meant by 'meet ups'?
Yes there are groups online made to meet people offline who have the same hobbies and stuff right now would be a great time too since those are opening up . I would search it as I highly recommend it
 

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The sense of humor of women is quite different from our sense of humor tho.
Things like wit are universally beloved. If you find your perfect match, she'll likey enjoy your sense of humor. It's a no-brainer to exclusively date people you're compatible with.

Being genuinely funny requires intelligence, as well as creativity. Find a woman who's halfway intelligent and she'll probably be able to appreciate your jokes.
 

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Going to PL a bit because I do want some advice. Met a woman who I think is decent at a social gathering recently, she's very Catholic and we've discussed faith and such, I have her phone number. Dry texter, but that's to be expected. I think she likes me as an acquaintance currently. My question is, how does one balance being present and being distant? I do not like intruding on others personal boundaries, but on the other hand I have to be very present in order to get to know her better. How do I balance these two things and what signs can I look for to see if I'm treading too far or not?
 

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Incels it’s never going to get better. Abandon hope. Sign up as an organ donor and then just end it all in a way that won’t spoil any useful organs.

The closest you’ll ever get to being with a woman is having parts of you transplanted in to better men.
 

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Going to PL a bit because I do want some advice. Met a woman who I think is decent at a social gathering recently, she's very Catholic and we've discussed faith and such, I have her phone number. Dry texter, but that's to be expected. I think she likes me as an acquaintance currently. My question is, how does one balance being present and being distant? I do not like intruding on others personal boundaries, but on the other hand I have to be very present in order to get to know her better. How do I balance these two things and what signs can I look for to see if I'm treading too far or not?
Honest advice: you're overthinking it bro. Thoughts like these are what will make you overanalyze the situation before it has even happened. And then when it does happen you'll be an autistic robot second-guessing yourself the entire time, the date will fall apart and you'll go sign up for incels.is to give them a field report on how all them bitches do be like this.

Just relax.
 

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I think incels are mostly right regarding looks theory. Pretty privilege is absolutely a real thing, but their whole "ideology" falls apart when you realize:

1) Nearly all men can be "average" assuming they take care of themselves and don't have a literal deformity
2) Life doesn't solely revolve around pussy lmao

I think most incels are reformable but the forums they hang around are beyond toxic. They just encourage people to sit around all day and do nothing about their problems because "it's over anyway bro." It's hard to tell sometimes whether they're nihilistic or just lazy. Getting them off the fucking internet and into the real world should be the first step.

Going to PL a bit because I do want some advice. Met a woman who I think is decent at a social gathering recently, she's very Catholic and we've discussed faith and such, I have her phone number. Dry texter, but that's to be expected. I think she likes me as an acquaintance currently. My question is, how does one balance being present and being distant? I do not like intruding on others personal boundaries, but on the other hand I have to be very present in order to get to know her better. How do I balance these two things and what signs can I look for to see if I'm treading too far or not?
There's not really a set formula. Just experiment and see what works for you both
 
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My question is, how does one balance being present and being distant? I do not like intruding on others personal boundaries, but on the other hand I have to be very present in order to get to know her better. How do I balance these two things and what signs can I look for to see if I'm treading too far or not?
This shit here? Fuck this shit.

Ask her to hang out. You already have her number, just ask. Don't overthink it or obsess over it or have panic attacks about it, just do it. All that neurotic shit turns women off and being forward and confident is what they want.

Don't ask her to a movie or dinner right off the cuff. Ask her to do something casual and non-threatening, where she feels she can leave right away if it's not going well. Like if you have a dog, for example, ask her if she wants to take your dog to the dog park with you. Or like, if there's a park in your area that has an elaborate Christmas light display say like, "Hey, I was going to go check out the lights at the park tonight. Want to go check it out?"

If she likes you it will feel super easy to set something up. Even if you ask her to hang out tomorrow and she's busy, she will ask if there's another day that works or will offer another day or ask for a rain-check or something.

If she always has an excuse not to hang out she's most likely not into you. People who like each other are generally going to make time for each other.
 

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Getting them off the fucking internet and into the real world should be the first step.
How much this advice applies to almost every single group of people who congregate on the Internet. It certainly applies to myself as well.

This is something that genuinely fills me with regret, honestly. I've always been a bit introverted, and have always enjoyed spending time with myself doing completely unproductive things, like browsing the web. It wasn't until the smartphone that it all fell into somewhat pathological territory though. I was late with adopting the smartphone. I think I got my first one around 2015. Before that I had a Sony Walkman W595, which I occasionally listened to a bit of music on. The worst habit I ever had with the Walkman was to sometimes play the Tetris-like game on it whilst taking a dump. Overall, I spent my free time doing mostly productive things, like working out, studying and hanging out with friends.

Ever since my fragile mentality got a taste of the joys of browsing the Internet on my smartphone, scrolling just a bit more to get that next hit of dopamine in a continous stream of tiny hits of dopamine, I must say that my life has taken a turn for the worse in terms of the number of hours I completely waste each week on mindnumbingly dumb shit, like reading that next comment on some obscure forum on the virtues of granny porn, and how Qanon might utilize it in a devilishly clever plan to bring down China.

It's simply a matter of self-discipline to revert the way I spend my free time back to how it used to be, but it's honestly difficult to do what needs to be done. It certainly doesn't help that the smartphone brings about many very convenient, actually useful applications in everyday life, like mobile bank-ID and real-time updates on public transport, making it an arduous task to completely ditch it. My dependence on the smartphone have actually helped deepen my appreciation for those who struggle with actual addiction. It's like the difficulty I have in ditching coffee; it would bring relief to my gastrointestinal tract to do so, yet I just can't quite fucking do it, and it's not because of the admiration I hold for the great logs I craft. If I have such trouble with quitting the smartphone and coffee, what hellish nightmare must it be for, say, an alcoholic to quit drinking, or for a smoker to quit smoking?
 

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An overlooked point is that lonely men have neither girlfriends or male friends. This would imply that men are generally having trouble connecting with other people, not that the relationship between men and women is broken.

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If you are having trouble getting a girlfriend, think about if you are having trouble getting friends or relationships of any kind in the first place.
 
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In highschool I was a laughing stock, a complete fat mess with a wannabe beard, no jawline, crooked teeth, glasses, long hair, I had it all. Last year of highschool I changed all that, went to the gym, got a haircut, got contacts, did it all. Suddenly girls paid attention to me. This is when I realized that anybody can make it.

Incels are partially right about one thing, and that's pretty privilege. The way I was treated by people after my changes, especially women, was just astonishing. It was so astonishing I was in denial about it for awhile, but eventually I came to see that it makes sense and I can see why girls wouldn't like ugly guys just as I don't like ugly girls. It hurts but it's true.

I think where a lot of incels screw up is their fucked up nihilistic attitude, although I can't entirely blame them, depression can really fuck with you. Honestly, I really do believe anybody can improve themselves and become a 'hot' guy. Most dudes nowadays don't even work out, dress properly, or anything like that. Becoming a top 25 percent male is easy as fuck.

Also, I think what also contributes to the general incel problem is that guys sometimes view social situations with girls wrong. Here's how you do it. When you talk to a girl, it isn't the guy talking to the beautiful girl, its the girl talking to the good looking dude. You got to feel yourself to pull this shit off, if you don't feel yourself get a haircut, grow a beard, go to the gym, do something until you feel confidence in yourself. You'll usually gain it when you notice girls start looking at you differently.
 

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An overlooked point is that lonely men have neither girlfriends or male friends. This would imply that men are generally having trouble connecting with other people, not that the relationship between men and women is broken.

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If you are having trouble getting a girlfriend, think about if you are having trouble getting friends or relationships of any kind in the first place.
I've found it's hard to make new guy friends as I have standards. Most people like me though but I feel nothing for most of them.

1. No fats
2. Cannot be triggered easily, no white knights
3. I have female model friends, in university the normal guys would try to sabotage my relationships with girls I had no interest in fucking to try to improve their chances with a girl who had no interest in them. Not those guys.
4. Good friend, supportive, reliable and so on
5. Interesting and somewhat intelligent. I don't want to hear how whatever character that beat them in a video game is cheating and should be nerfed.
 

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In highschool I was a laughing stock, a complete fat mess with a wannabe beard, no jawline, crooked teeth, glasses, long hair, I had it all. Last year of highschool I changed all that, went to the gym, got a haircut, got contacts, did it all. Suddenly girls paid attention to me. This is when I realized that anybody can make it.

Incels are partially right about one thing, and that's pretty privilege. The way I was treated by people after my changes, especially women, was just astonishing. It was so astonishing I was in denial about it for awhile, but eventually I came to see that it makes sense and I can see why girls wouldn't like ugly guys just as I don't like ugly girls. It hurts but it's true.

I think where a lot of incels screw up is their fucked up nihilistic attitude, although I can't entirely blame them, depression can really fuck with you. Honestly, I really do believe anybody can improve themselves and become a 'hot' guy. Most dudes nowadays don't even work out, dress properly, or anything like that. Becoming a top 25 percent male is easy as fuck.

Also, I think what also contributes to the general incel problem is that guys sometimes view social situations with girls wrong. Here's how you do it. When you talk to a girl, it isn't the guy talking to the beautiful girl, its the girl talking to the good looking dude. You got to feel yourself to pull this shit off, if you don't feel yourself get a haircut, grow a beard, go to the gym, do something until you feel confidence in yourself. You'll usually gain it when you notice girls start looking at you differently.
honestly with guys it really is just pruning and grooming, get the basics down decently. Then go to the gym, change yourself gradually until you're where you can look in a mirror and have that sense of some confidence.

but you are right, a ton of guys don't get social situations at all and need to practice by making friends and getting their shit together.
I've found it's hard to make new guy friends as I have standards. Most people like me though but I feel nothing for most of them.

1. No fats
2. Cannot be triggered easily, no white knights
3. I have female model friends, in university the normal guys would try to sabotage my relationships with girls I had no interest in fucking to try to improve their chances with a girl who had no interest in them. Not those guys.
4. Good friend, supportive, reliable and so on
5. Interesting and somewhat intelligent. I don't want to hear how whatever character that beat them in a video game is cheating and should be nerfed.

it can't be that hard to find genuinely good guys tbh.
 

Uncle Remus

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what's funny is that I've met a lot more egotistical and narcissistic obese women-cels than I have met obese incels. i don't even get it, but you seem to get a strange amount of fat American women with massive egos.
God bless america
 

Uncle Remus

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Fat, loud, and ugly American woman learns to scream and bitch. Wonders why chad won't settle with her.

Rinse, repeat.


It's kinda disturbing how often this seems to be
I mean it isn't that hard to get dates and all that, just bored of hitting up the same old shit man, big effort not gonna complain though we all know the hustle, is what it is uno
 

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