Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

vanilla_pepsi_head

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Is there any historical precedent where a now deemed backward medical practice, once had a political movement of supporters and 'patients' advocating for it? Because if not, this transgender activism is the first time I've ever seen anything like this. While I view transitioning a very questionable treatment and it should be rather viewed as extreme cosmetic procedures than a legitimate way to treat body-image issues - it might be difficult for it to go down the bin as medical malpractice in a near future because other dubious medical practices in the past (eg. lobotomies) did not have political movement and people who would be voluntarily getting lobotomies.

Although if gender movement eventually falls apart and became obsolete like many people have stated here, I wonder how will we look back at these time? I guess no one involved in the movement will ever want to be held responsible or they would act like victims and never their fault anyway.
The recovered memory bullshit was already discussed but I'm going to say eugenics. Before the Nazis' disgusting abuse of it was discovered and human rights became a hot button issue it was pretty common to sterilize low IQ or poor mothers, tards, and other undesirables without their consent. It's not black and white so it's an uncomfortable discussion because it's kind of shitty when people keep popping out fucked up tardlets that get taken right off them by the state anyway and they're just propagating suffering, but doing things like sterilizing, let's say very retarded women who love the idea of a baby but would end up hurting it out of frustration or unintentional harm/neglect and do not understand the implications of reproducing, is more nuanced. There's also the arguments about male tards being sexually aggressive, or the rampant sexual abuse of female tards in care homes, and the resultant pregnancies, they obviously can't consent to abortion or sterilization/castration but who then makes that decision for them? Is it a slippery slope to declaring anyone you damn well please with any mental health diagnosis unfit to reproduce? I don't know, but the Nazis did a hell of a job shocking everyone into seeing the worst case scenario of what it could lead to.

Also punitive psychiatry but that was more of a Russian thing. Maybe the Catholics being anti-birth control until AIDS got so bad the Pope said it's fine to wear a condom for STD protection. Actually anything the Catholic church does.
 

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So they let some disgusting tranny pervert take over the Netflix Twitter to share how important it is to trannies not to be misgendered

There are a bunch of video clips, this one the doctors 'misgender' the tranny kid like three times in 5 seconds and then get a lecture from the babyshitter shero


Fuck these people.

Fuck Netflix.

The actor who plays the troon is a troon himself - his mother decided he was a girl when at the age of 18 months he started exhibiting 'very strong female characteristics'.

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Crunchy Leaf

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The trans child scam is further helped by these factors:

1) If you are a middle class white American, you trust the medical establishment. Doctors know what they’re doing. Puberty blockers must be safe, because doctors wouldn’t prescribe them and the FDA wouldn’t allow them to be prescribed if they weren’t.
2) If you’re also a liberal, you know gay/lesbian adults who are successful professionals with large poodles and tastefully painted Victorian homes but who were treated in an unfortunate manner by their parents. Since you’re a good liberal, you don’t want to replicate that. You are unaware of the fundamental differences between homosexuality and transgenderism, namely that one is innate and free and one is influenced by autism/ADHD/sexism/sexual abuse and involves becoming a permanent medical patient.

Some parents of trans child are doing it because of BPD, Munchausens, not wanting a gay kid, etc., but many are misinformed and misled people who want to do right by their child but aren’t.
 

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The actor who plays the troon is a troon himself - his mother decided he was a girl when at the age of 18 months he started exhibiting 'very strong female characteristics'.

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What female characteristics can you exhibit at 1.5 years old? Did he play with a doll once or said he liked pink?

It should be very telling that ultraconservative religious nutjobs, who think you'll burn in hell for being gay or dressing immodestly as a woman, start trooning their kids out. But the troon cult has zero self-awareness.
 

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The actor who plays the troon is a troon himself - his mother decided he was a girl when at the age of 18 months he started exhibiting 'very strong female characteristics'.

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“I now have a happy, healthy, outgoing, loving, beautiful, sweet little girl who loves Jesus and loves her brothers,” she said.

And here's why. Cunt wanted a daughter.
 

Orion Balls

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Having female characteristics at 18 months? Whatever happened to the "objects don't have a gender thing"? They used to say that there's nothing wrong with boys playing with a doll or girls wearing overalls. I had a Powerpuff girl doll growing up and a Furby if that counts. Why do they all of a sudden want to take a step back from that?
Because gender normativity is important even though gender doesn't exist.
 

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Having female characteristics at 18 months? Whatever happened to the "objects don't have a gender thing"? They used to say that there's nothing wrong with boys playing with a doll or girls wearing overalls. I had a Powerpuff girl doll growing up and a Furby if that counts. Why do they all of a sudden want to take a step back from that?
I too, am curious about what behaviors at 18 months could possibly be interpreted as indicating gender dysphoria- wiping front to back? Refusing to "point it down" during diaper changes? Preferring the pink pacifier over the blue pacifier?

Did the 18-month old flip though fashion magazines? Or develop an unhealthy obsession with musical theater?

Did the 18-month old show a preference for certain categories on PornHub? If so, there's a bigger problem (with the parents).
 

Deepland Bystander

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Those answer made me realise how big this trans explosion is compared to yesteryear medical insanity. Recovered memory is a very American phenomenon but trans-children has spread out over developed countries. Eugenics came close in scale, and It would be ironic that something that is so 'progressive' in 2020, that you can't even question now without being seen as a bigot will be seen as another Nazi-esque scenario long into the future.

A little powerlevel here, while this is not trooning. I have a munchie mom who manipulated a doctor into giving me autism diagnosis when I was very young, sent me to a special needs school and put me on antipsychotics. It has always felt wrong during my time in it. I was barely allowed interactions with the outside world, the only thing they cared about me is academics and my parents seem to idealise 'idiot savant' archetype. When I finally moved out, I sought out many mental health workers and psychiatrists to assess me again and they all agreed that I do not fit into autism diagnostic criteria, and then officially de-diagnosed, although I showed issues related to severe neglect and abuse.

While there hasn't been permanent physical damage to me, this whole thing still fucked me up mentally and not to mention opportunities cost. Now imagine what will be of these trans children, and many of them have troon sideshow parents that I'd not trust them even touching a child. Although I do wonder how will these permanent physical alterations of what were once troons will be seen in our culture?
 
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Those answer made me realise how big this trans explosion is compared to yesteryear medical insanity. Recovered memory is a very American phenomenon but trans-children has spread out over developed countries. Eugenics came close in scale, and It would be ironic that something that is so 'progressive' in 2020, that you can't even question now without being seen as a bigot will be seen as another Nazi-esque scenario long into the future.

A little powerlevel here, while this is not trooning. I have a munchie mom who manipulated a doctor into giving me autism diagnosis when I was very young, sent me to a special needs school and put me on antipsychotics. It has always felt wrong during my time in it. I was barely allowed interactions with the outside world, the only thing they cared about me is academics and my parents seem to idealise 'idiot savant' archetype. When I finally moved out, I sought out many mental health workers and psychiatrists to assess me again and they all agreed that I do not fit into autism diagnostic criteria, and then officially de-diagnosed, although I showed issues related to severe neglect and abuse.

While there hasn't been permanent physical damage to me, this whole thing still fucked me up mentally and not to mention opportunities cost. Now imagine what will be of these trans children, and many of them have troon sideshow parents that I'd not trust them even touching a child. Although I do wonder how will these permanent physical alterations of what were once troons will be seen in our culture?
My friend, if you have not read the KF thread about the Schofields with their "born schizophrenic" kids, get yourself a stiff drink or two and take the wildest ride of your life.
 

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The other issue - especially outside of the US - is that these 'gender clinics' are largely government funded, so consequently this makes almost everyone who works in them tend towards the left simply because the centre-left parties offer more funding for the public health systems. Once this issue became polarised, medical professionals in these institutions who could have exercised some sort of oversight or intervened ended up being sympathetic to child castration for the simple reason that it was what The Good Guys support.
It also makes it too politically expensive for centre-right politicians to intervene, like Australia's govt. briefly considered investigating the issue but backed-off almost certainly for this reason. Even the UK govt. is more tepid with Tavistock et. al. than they really ought to have been, and I think that a lot of their success can probably be accorded to the fact that the UK has an atypically strong GC movement which helps make their changes seem a little less partisan.
 

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Eugenics came close in scale, and It would be ironic that something that is so 'progressive' in 2020, that you can't even question now without being seen as a bigot will be seen as another Nazi-esque scenario long into the future.
Eugenics was very much the "progressive" stance of the late 19th and early 20th century, when questioning it got you accused of nigger loving, rubery and uneducated ignorance. They were so madly in love with their simplistic understanding of the new scientific age, interpreted through early and poorly understood theories of evolution, that they thought they could improve the species toward a physical and social ideal by sterilising blacks, gays, and morons, and breeding their children like cows for superficial physical traits.

IOW they were the "I fucking love science!" people of their day.
 

Crunchy Leaf

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Eugenics was very much the "progressive" stance of the late 19th and early 20th century, when questioning it got you accused of nigger loving, rubery and uneducated ignorance. They were so madly in love with their simplistic understanding of the new scientific age, interpreted through early and poorly understood theories of evolution, that they thought they could improve the species toward a physical and social ideal by sterilising blacks, gays, and morons, and breeding their children like cows for superficial physical traits.

IOW they were the "I fucking love science!" people of their day.
Even eugenics has more nuance than trooning out your kid. I read Hotwheels’ essay on why people with extremely painful genetic conditions, like his mother, should be offered money to be sterilized, and it’s hard not to be sympathetic to someone who has a condition where he breaks bones all the time. And I’ve seen progressives talk about what the appropriate thing to do is with women who are low cognitive functioning but high enough to seek out sex (and thus get pregnant), and how if they do have a baby should it be raised by someone else.

But there’s no nuance with trans kids.

In the US, is this covered by insurance?
 

Sourceress

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In the US, is this covered by insurance?
More or less. Most insurance companies will, unfortunately, cover exogenous hormones and cosmetic surgeries (ie elective double mastectomy) even for minors, which is unbelievably fucked.

I do know there was a lot of ruckus a couple of years ago about how most insurance companies won't cover so-called "puberty blocker" drugs, because they're being used off-label and are extremely expensive. No idea if they've changed that since, though. The trans lobby is pretty powerful, so I'd expect that unfortunately they've probably bullied the insurance companies into covering off-label use of chemo drugs on little kids by now.
 

Crunchy Leaf

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More or less. Most insurance companies will, unfortunately, cover exogenous hormones and cosmetic surgeries (ie elective double mastectomy) even for minors, which is unbelievably fucked.

I do know there was a lot of ruckus a couple of years ago about how most insurance companies won't cover so-called "puberty blocker" drugs, because they're being used off-label and are extremely expensive. No idea if they've changed that since, though. The trans lobby is pretty powerful, so I'd expect that unfortunately they've probably bullied the insurance companies into covering off-label use of chemo drugs on little kids by now.
Damn, the troon lobby can beat the insurance lobby. Impressive.
 

TungstenCarbide

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What female characteristics can you exhibit at 1.5 years old? Did he play with a doll once or said he liked pink?

It should be very telling that ultraconservative religious nutjobs, who think you'll burn in hell for being gay or dressing immodestly as a woman, start trooning their kids out. But the troon cult has zero self-awareness.
Yes, this is a case of "Better a trans daughter than a gay son".
 

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It's not black and white so it's an uncomfortable discussion because it's kind of shitty when people keep popping out fucked up tardlets that get taken right off them by the state anyway and they're just propagating suffering, but doing things like sterilizing, let's say very retarded women who love the idea of a baby but would end up hurting it out of frustration or unintentional harm/neglect and do not understand the implications of reproducing, is more nuanced. There's also the arguments about male tards being sexually aggressive, or the rampant sexual abuse of female tards in care homes, and the resultant pregnancies, they obviously can't consent to abortion or sterilization/castration but who then makes that decision for them?
As much as people shit on pushing birth control pills (granted society is degenerate yes), encouraging the use of birth control means getting dumber but not actually retarded people to voluntarily and willingly stop their dumbass genes from being passed on. I say that with this context that forced sterilization is awful, and it's just better to encourage voluntary solutions. Also birth control has been proven to be more effective than abstinence at this point in society to prevent teen pregnancies.

There are a lot of cases where parents of severely retarded children will consent on their behalf for sterilization. PILLOW ANGEL is an excellent case study here.

Pillow Angel is the pseudonym given to a girl who is unable to walk or move and is stuck with infant level intelligence. When she came to be near puberty age, her parents opted to have her sterilized, breast buds removed, and given a hysterectomy. It was less cruel for Pillow Angel, because the parents were worried that she could be raped if she ever had to be sent to a home, like when the parents die. Also they wanted to avoid the possibility of cancer, avoid issues with her being too big to carry around, and avoid the bloody mess that would be created by a pointless menstruation.

it does leave the question, if kids in the care of the state are in this position, should the state sterilize them?
 

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As much as people shit on pushing birth control pills (granted society is degenerate yes), encouraging the use of birth control means getting dumber but not actually retarded people to voluntarily and willingly stop their dumbass genes from being passed on. I say that with this context that forced sterilization is awful, and it's just better to encourage voluntary solutions. Also birth control has been proven to be more effective than abstinence at this point in society to prevent teen pregnancies.

There are a lot of cases where parents of severely retarded children will consent on their behalf for sterilization. PILLOW ANGEL is an excellent case study here.

Pillow Angel is the pseudonym given to a girl who is unable to walk or move and is stuck with infant level intelligence. When she came to be near puberty age, her parents opted to have her sterilized, breast buds removed, and given a hysterectomy. It was less cruel for Pillow Angel, because the parents were worried that she could be raped if she ever had to be sent to a home, like when the parents die. Also they wanted to avoid the possibility of cancer, avoid issues with her being too big to carry around, and avoid the bloody mess that would be created by a pointless menstruation.

it does leave the question, if kids in the care of the state are in this position, should the state sterilize them?
This has been done on a few other children as well, for the same reasons. They did a bit more treatment than just the hysterectomy and breast bud removal.


Precocious or early puberty is not uncommon in children with brain damage as the signaling mechanisms are all fucked up. In this case, Ashley was starting puberty at age 6. She was given estrogen to close the growth plates on her bones, keeping her much smaller so it was easier for her parents to move her around. Her reduced size decreased her risk of bedsores. They also removed her appendix because she would be unable to let caretakers know she was having symptoms of appendicitis. This sounds extreme, but the treatment allowed her parents to care for her in their own home, where she could be with her family, for a much longer time.

The last interview her parents gave was in 2015. Her parents seem to be very happy with the quality of life that they're able to provide with her daughter, and her small size has stabilized her scoliosis.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/15/ashley-treatment-email-exchange

Some some other families also gave interviews, speaking positively about the impact of the treatment on their child's quality of life and their ability to care for their child at home.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/16/ashley-treatment-ericas-story

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/16/growth-attenuation-treatment-toms-story
 
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"unfortunately... that is the easy road and I hate to say that :(" - says the mom with a trans-girl that is only dressing like a girl around her, not in school or around friends and he wants to grow up to be a man. He just seems gay and the mother is disappointed. No puberty blockers, no nothing, he's got friends, is happy and less miserable as his real gender.

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"I support that..." she says and makes that face.

From this at around 45 minutes.