Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes

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No doubt Chayse’s mommy has spent years petitioning for precious little Chayse-Lady to be allowed to do girl-things with real-girls, urinating next to them, changing for swim class beside them, sleepovers at girlscout camp, showers after soccer, etc etc.
Mommy has probably had school policy rewritten for the entire state and forced the pre teen gymnastics squad to redesign the uniform so that Chayse’s balls don’t pop out the bottom of his leotard.

Now Chayse has reached the life stage where it’s materially apparent that his penis has a use beyond standing up to pee, and Mommy has to make a choice: inject him with expensive, bone destroying prostate cancer drugs while he sleeps, like other munchie mommies, or get misplaced activist egg all over her face.

This is why even ‘social transition‘ is a mistake - it’s really hard for a kid to row back when every adult in their lives is emotionally invested in pushing them forwards.

Has this been posted already? I came across it secondhand, so it could be ancient (username has 2017 in it) or it might be tervern psyops (colon smell!) but we know that both Jazz Jennings and Jackie Green had this exact problem (both their mothers have discussed their sons’ puberty blocker induced microdicks on television) so whether this particular post is real or not, we’re going to be hearing a lot of similar stories in the coming years as the current crop of troony-groomed kiddies reach adulthood.

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Well I'm sure the parents who say their kid can be anything will be perfectly happy with a desister, too.

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Oh, right.
And now she's first to misgender her son.

BTW, I've been following this thread for a while and I have not yet seen a case of young F2M child. Young M2F? Aplenty. Teen F2M? Also. Teen M2F? Rare, but there are few. But no young F2Ms. I also have not seen a case when it's the father who is okay with transness and the mother is not. Makes you think.
 

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BTW, I've been following this thread for a while and I have not yet seen a case of young F2M child. Young M2F? Aplenty. Teen F2M? Also. Teen M2F? Rare, but there are few. But no young F2Ms.
It is because F2M is almost 100% result of coomery or that fabled teenager dysphoria.
Mothers mangling their sons is a tried and true thing, tho.
 

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No doubt Chayse’s mommy has spent years petitioning for precious little Chayse-Lady to be allowed to do girl-things with real-girls, urinating next to them, changing for swim class beside them, sleepovers at girlscout camp, showers after soccer, etc etc.
Mommy has probably had school policy rewritten for the entire state and forced the pre teen gymnastics squad to redesign the uniform so that Chayse’s balls don’t pop out the bottom of his leotard.

Now Chayse has reached the life stage where it’s materially apparent that his penis has a use beyond standing up to pee, and Mommy has to make a choice: inject him with expensive, bone destroying prostate cancer drugs while he sleeps, like other munchie mommies, or get misplaced activist egg all over her face.

This is why even ‘social transition‘ is a mistake - it’s really hard for a kid to row back when every adult in their lives is emotionally invested in pushing them forwards.

Has this been posted already? I came across it secondhand, so it could be ancient (username has 2017 in it) or it might be tervern psyops (colon smell!) but we know that both Jazz Jennings and Jackie Green had this exact problem (both their mothers have discussed their sons’ puberty blocker induced microdicks on television) so whether this particular post is real or not, we’re going to be hearing a lot of similar stories in the coming years as the current crop of troony-groomed kiddies reach adulthood.

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Indeed posted to Reddit in 2017.

Here’s the removeddit including the deleted responses. Lots of talk of “tissue expanders” and other medieval torture devices and recommendations for her son to book with Bowers or Ting.:stress:
 

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Well I'm sure the parents who say their kid can be anything will be perfectly happy with a desister, too.
I don't believe transgender kids exist. What I do believe exists are psychotic mothers who hate males and want to chop their dicks off for their own bizarre, insane reasons, and cuck dads too pathetic and weak to say no, this shit isn't going to happen.
 

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I don't believe transgender kids exist. What I do believe exists are psychotic mothers who hate males and want to chop their dicks off for their own bizarre, insane reasons, and cuck dads too pathetic and weak to say no, this shit isn't going to happen.
What about FTM trans kids?
 

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What about FTM trans kids?
Where are they hiding*? And how would they troon out a five year old girl, put pants on her? Short hair? Give her a Nintendo? It's much easier to sissify a boy than it is to bear:ify a little girl.

*I know there are packers but I think the main market is adult-baby chomos looking for very special pacifiers.
 

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It's still an unreasonable opinion though. We've already started not expecting people to act like adults until their mid 20s if not later, and the very idea we should further retard people's physical development as well would just be compounding the damage helicopter parenting has already done on the population. That said I recall Zinnia Jones saying it just to be inflammatory so I'm quite positive the only people serious about this are retarded troons who didn't get the joke. And probably pedophiles.

It's still an interesting thought experiment. How long would the kids be allowed to have to "make up their minds"? What would be considered the cutoff? 25? 30? Would they get the same legal rights as adults if they really think it's "stopping the biological clock"? What happened to kids wanting to grow up as early as possible, or is it just parents who want babby forever?

IIRC there's actually some concern that medically stopping puberty via blockers can REALLY fuck you up in the sense that you're aging, and your body is 'growing', but you're not maturing. You can see this issue in Jazz. He's grown up but he hasn't grown up. Jazz is a neutered petulant child mentally and that's not something you can really change. The amount of mental maturing that people go through during, but especially post puberty, is immense. There's a reason we consider people to be kids and their consent being incredibly dubious until they're into their 20's. The gulf between teenagers and people 25+ is also immense, in term of their maturity, emotional state, etc. By the time you hit you 30's the way you view and interact with the world is drastically different not just from lived experience but because you're fully matured.

It's entirely possible that there's a window for puberty that if you halted it you may very well age out of the ability to go through it even if you stopped the medical transition you've started.

They're selling a fallacy that these drugs are a pause button but they're really playing a game with biological processes that we don't know, and probably cannot truly fathom, the total fallout that may result from fucking with them.
 

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Indeed posted to Reddit in 2017.

Here’s the removeddit including the deleted responses. Lots of talk of “tissue expanders” and other medieval torture devices and recommendations for her son to book with Bowers or Ting.:stress:
Thanks for finding it.

The replies are mind boggling!
Problem solving suggestions are entirely about how to make a patchwork quilt of a fuck hole and practically no acknowledgement that even if it works (and we know there are tons of complications from even the most straightforward SRS ops) this poor kid will still get no sexual fulfilment whatsoever. He’s condemned to being a real life Real Doll.

I know twinky boys can struggle to find sex partners due to the gay hierarchy (with masc for masc at the top of the pack) but surely that’s still miles better than this? And at least he’d be able to masturbate:

instead his libido is frozen in a perpetual pre adolescent state.

THIS IS NOT PROGRESSIVE. Fucking hell,

it’s like the other side of the coin from Desmond is Amazing- two little sissy boys are encouraged by Mommy to grow up as their gay and trans ‘authentic’ selves, one is swarmed by adult pedos and the other gets chemically castrated.

Shit, how about just letting your little boy have full access to the dressing up box and then leaving him alone to fully develop his sexual orientation on his own terms, at the appropriate time (adolescence) and then just not acting like an arsehole when he brings his first boyfriend home for dinner or wants to go to prom with another boy from the drama club?

Yep, I’m MOTI.

What about FTM trans kids?
They don’t really exist in the same way. Paediatric transitioners can be grouped into 3 or 4 types and there isn’t really much overlap between them. Transmunchen mommies either have little MtFs or teenage FtMs.

The little ones are pretty much universally femme-y boys. If you leave them alone they will almost definitely grow up to be gay men. Some will actually turn out to be fairly masc gay men. This ‘sissy boy’ type behaviour is sometimes described as being ‘pre-gay’ as in, they can’t really be called gay until they start having sexual feelings, but girly-boy behaviour in boys under the age of 7 is a good predictor for growing up to be a homosexual male.
Parents of boys like this should just leave them alone to do their glittery, fun thing, maybe give them a bit of a protective explanatory talk from time to time (if they are struggling to fit in at school or being bullied) but don’t relate it to sexual orientation until they are old enough for that to be developmentally appropriate. Maybe find them a well adjusted gay role model in a godfather type role (eg family friend who comes round for dinner from time to time) so that when the kid starts figuring out they are same sex attracted it doesn’t make them feel like they are alone/weird/will be rejected if they come out. Otherwise, just do normal parent stuff and encourage gaining skills and learning shit over endless identity rumination.

Little girls who like boy stuff don’t face the same societal pressures. A ‘tomboy’ is seen as an absolutely acceptable form of girlhood in most cultures, as long as she occasionally puts on a dress (to be a bridesmaid or some such) no one will raise an eyebrow (we can debate as to whether this is due to societal misogyny, ie boys liking girly things are seen as unacceptable because anything associated with femininity is perceived as being worth less than things associated with masculinity, so tomboys are upwardly mobile and sissyboys are downwardly mobile but I don’t know how useful finding the root of social norm is, because turning those stereotypes around takes fucking forever and kids need support now, not in decades to come). The fact is, tomboys have it easier than sissyboys or at least they do until puberty hits. Tomboys are largely unremarkable so unappealing for the transmunchen by proxy mermaids moms types. They won’t get many likes on Instagram, no attention for mommy here.
Also, being a butch little girl is less of a solid indicator for growing up to be a lesbian - certainly a proportion of tomboys will continue on the same trajectory and grow up to be butch lesbians who work stereotypical male jobs in construction/manufacturing whatever. However, a bigger proportion of tomboys will just be sporty heterosexual women, and some will be on the autistic spectrum (ASD is typically diagnosed far later in girls, and can be missed entirely. This is in part because of the next bit.

At 11 or so, the social rules for girls change quite considerably, in both formal and informal ways.
I’m not quite sure about the US school system but in the U.K. most kids go from primary school to secondary school in the academic year they turn 12. Secondary schools have stricter uniform policy, and those uniforms are more likely to be strictly gendered than in primary school. Up until fairly recently, skirts were pretty much compulsory for girls in secondary school - if you’ve spent the first 11 years of your life in jeans/joggers/shorts then the adjustment to a knee length pleated skirt 5 days a week is a pretty big one. If you are on the spectrum, it might even be giving you some pretty bad sensory issues. Couple that with periods, new tits that you didn’t want or ask for, boys pinging your bra strap, men in vans shouting sexualised shit at you (schoolgirl outfits and puberty bring out the perverts in droves) your old male mates refusing to talk to you in the new school because boys are now collectively seeing girls as different to them (we’re just mammals so some of that is natural and related to sexual maturation, but some is societal) and you’ve been kicked off the football team because FA rules only allow mixed sex teams up to the age of 11. The other girls are painting themselves fake tan orange and wearing false eyelashes to try and look like airbrushed celebs and talking about boys they fancy. If you can’t fit in with that, don’t like your body, maybe starting to realise you fancy girls?
Boom, gender dysphoria.

Add in some family complications (maybe you see yourself as being more like your dad than your mum? Or your brother is the golden child? And a bit of the old ‘not like other girls’ and angsty teen rebelling against the system/tumblr communities and swallowing down the worst parts of feminism (you’ll always be oppressed! Sex work is work! You’ll definitely get raped at some point!) and you get a teenage transman.

A tiny fraction of the current numbers of tomboy-adolescent transmen have been around for ages, but until very recently wouldn’t have transitioned until adulthood (I went to school with a butch girl who everyone thought was a boy back in the 80s, she went on to transition in the mid 90s and it did kinda make practical sense to everyone who knew her - I remember a little girl literally bursting into tears on seeing baby butch in the kindergarten toilets, that shit’s gonna tire you out eventually, so switching from Jane to John just seems like the easier option).

The strange phenomenon that we are currently in the midst of is what is controversially called ROGD - Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. These are the girls who have always been normies, rather than extreme GNC tomboys - much of the same stuff about societal changes at adolescence applies to these girls too, but as they had previously not seemed to be particularly invested in boy stuff, ‘coming out’ blindsides parents. These girls are influenced by trans you tubers like ‘JammiDodger’ and they subconsciously see trooning out as being the solution to what ever problems they are ruminating on (sometimes really big issues, like childhood sexual abuse, but also typical teen bullshit, which feels massive at the time but inconsequential when you look back from adulthood). These girls could be of any sexual orientation, but whoever they are attracted to, they clearly aren’t feeling comfortable with it yet. These are the ones who create micro labels for themselves.
They are they exact some group of sensitive, complicated girls who have long been known to experience self harm via social contagion. In my day, they were the anorexics, a few years later, the ones who cut themselves with razor blades. There have even been contagions of suicide amongst this population (there is an excellent bbc documentary about a suicide contagion on Instagram.

The third type can be boys or girls and they develop a cross sex identity as a maladaptive coping mechanism for trauma. Ken Zucker describes a girl who witnessed the brutal murder of her own mother and then started identifying as a boy as a protective coping mechanism, If she was male, she would’ve been able to protect her mother better, if she was male, she wouldn’t grow up to be a woman like her mum, she wouldn’t be a woman murdered by a man. Trying to turn herself into a boy was more of a PTSD type disassociation combined with an ASD type ‘functional behaviour’ (will be back with a link for this).

Little boys have started identifying as girls after being molested by a paedo - a very small boy who suddenly starts declaring that he hates his penis and wants it removed is statistically more likely to have been a victim of serious sexual abuse than be a truandhonesttranswoman. Some children take on a cross sex identity to subconsciously attempt to heal the trauma their parents have experienced - Dr David Bell describes a girls who began identifying as a boy after her brother died - she was trying to give her parents a son again, but obvs, as a tiny child, that motivation isn’t going to be a deliberate one.
These stories are the ones that upset me the most. There is a higher proportion of trans kids in the ‘looked after’ system than in the wider population. Trans activists will hand wave this away as kids being rejected by transphobic parents, but it’s far more likely due to extreme trauma and the same trauma that led to them being taken away from the family also causes the cross sex identity. This group is absolutely being harmed by transactivism, social workers are coming out of uni drunk on PoMo and wokeness, kids who have been fucked up by a us I’ve adults are unable to obtain proper psychological support and remedial therapy due to all this affirmation only/no conversion therapy shit. These kids are doubly doomed, I fear.

Group 4 are the fetishists, these are mostly boys but girls are increasingly exhibiting similar traits. AGPs used to transition in middle age but are getting younger and younger - I suspect this is largely due to the accessibility of hardcore porn. It used to take years, decades even for the AGP fetish to build, starting out with occasional cross dressing and then repeating a purge/binge cycle until finally transitioning. Now you see teen AGPs coming out (Lily Madigan is a good example of this).
The low effort, thigh high socks lot are, I believe, a new sub branch if AGP. They get the majority of their sex thrill by playing video games using female avatars and calling themselves girls online. It’s where old fashioned AGP meets super online lives, if the internet had never existed, these guys would probably never have made it past the wanking whilst wearing their sister’s knickers stage.
The girls who fantasise about being gay men (autohomoerotics, as Blanchard has called them) are another sub branch of AGP type behaviour that probably wouldn’t have happened without the internet.

I dunno why I typed all that when I coulda just linked to this - an expert view on the types of ‘trans kids’


yeah, yeah, double post, but have you seen the size of this one? Also, phone typing.
 
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Has this been posted already? I came across it secondhand, so it could be ancient (username has 2017 in it) or it might be tervern psyops (colon smell!) but we know that both Jazz Jennings and Jackie Green had this exact problem (both their mothers have discussed their sons’ puberty blocker induced microdicks on television) so whether this particular post is real or not, we’re going to be hearing a lot of similar stories in the coming years as the current crop of troony-groomed kiddies reach adulthood.

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More and more stories like this are going to start popping up. How long before the dam bursts and a ton of parents realize they turned their (what prob would have been normal gay) kids into eunuchs?
 

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IIRC there's actually some concern that medically stopping puberty via blockers can REALLY fuck you up in the sense that you're aging, and your body is 'growing', but you're not maturing. You can see this issue in Jazz. He's grown up but he hasn't grown up. Jazz is a neutered petulant child mentally and that's not something you can really change. The amount of mental maturing that people go through during, but especially post puberty, is immense. There's a reason we consider people to be kids and their consent being incredibly dubious until they're into their 20's. The gulf between teenagers and people 25+ is also immense, in term of their maturity, emotional state, etc. By the time you hit you 30's the way you view and interact with the world is drastically different not just from lived experience but because you're fully matured.

It's entirely possible that there's a window for puberty that if you halted it you may very well age out of the ability to go through it even if you stopped the medical transition you've started.

They're selling a fallacy that these drugs are a pause button but they're really playing a game with biological processes that we don't know, and probably cannot truly fathom, the total fallout that may result from fucking with them.
We know Lupron for precocious puberty was bad, but you can see the reasoning — we don’t want this girl to become sexually mature at age 7, let’s give her blockers and she can go through a normal female puberty at 11. This is different.
They don’t really exist in the same way. Paediatric transitioners can be grouped into 3 or 4 types and there isn’t really much overlap between them. Transmunchen mommies either have little MtFs or teenage FtMs.

The little ones are pretty much universally femme-y boys. If you leave them alone they will almost definitely grow up to be gay men. Some will actually turn out to be fairly masc gay men. This ‘sissy boy’ type behaviour is sometimes described as being ‘pre-gay’ as in, they can’t really be called gay until they start having sexual feelings, but girly-boy behaviour in boys under the age of 7 is a good predictor for growing up to be a homosexual male.
Parents of boys like this should just leave them alone to do their glittery, fun thing, maybe give them a bit of a protective explanatory talk from time to time (if they are struggling to fit in at school or being bullied) but don’t relate it to sexual orientation until they are old enough for that to be developmentally appropriate. Maybe find them a well adjusted gay role model in a godfather type role (eg family friend who comes round for dinner from time to time) so that when the kid starts figuring out they are same sex attracted it doesn’t make them feel like they are alone/weird/will be rejected if they come out. Otherwise, just do normal parent stuff and encourage gaining skills and learning shit over endless identity rumination.

Little girls who like boy stuff don’t face the same societal pressures. A ‘tomboy’ is seen as an absolutely acceptable form of girlhood in most cultures, as long as she occasionally puts on a dress (to be a bridesmaid or some such) no one will raise an eyebrow (we can debate as to whether this is due to societal misogyny, ie boys liking girly things are seen as unacceptable because anything associated with femininity is perceived as being worth less than things associated with masculinity, so tomboys are upwardly mobile and sissyboys are downwardly mobile but I don’t know how useful finding the root of social norm is, because turning those stereotypes around takes fucking forever and kids need support now, not in decades to come). The fact is, tomboys have it easier than sissyboys or at least they do until puberty hits. Tomboys are largely unremarkable so unappealing for the transmunchen by proxy mermaids moms types. They won’t get many likes on Instagram, no attention for mommy here.
Also, being a butch little girl is less of a solid indicator for growing up to be a lesbian - certainly a proportion of tomboys will continue on the same trajectory and grow up to be butch lesbians who work stereotypical male jobs in construction/manufacturing whatever. However, a bigger proportion of tomboys will just be sporty heterosexual women, and some will be on the autistic spectrum (ASD is typically diagnosed far later in girls, and can be missed entirely. This is in part because of the next bit.

At 11 or so, the social rules for girls change quite considerably, in both formal and informal ways.
I’m not quite sure about the US school system but in the U.K. most kids go from primary school to secondary school in the academic year they turn 12. Secondary schools have stricter uniform policy, and those uniforms are more likely to be strictly gendered than in primary school. Up until fairly recently, skirts were pretty much compulsory for girls in secondary school - if you’ve spent the first 11 years of your life in jeans/joggers/shorts then the adjustment to a knee length pleated skirt 5 days a week is a pretty big one. If you are on the spectrum, it might even be giving you some pretty bad sensory issues. Couple that with periods, new tits that you didn’t want or ask for, boys pinging your bra strap, men in vans shouting sexualised shit at you (schoolgirl outfits and puberty bring out the perverts in droves) your old male mates refusing to talk to you in the new school because boys are now collectively seeing girls as different to them (we’re just mammals so some of that is natural and related to sexual maturation, but some is societal) and you’ve been kicked off the football team because FA rules only allow mixed sex teams up to the age of 11. The other girls are painting themselves fake tan orange and wearing false eyelashes to try and look like airbrushed celebs and talking about boys they fancy. If you can’t fit in with that, don’t like your body, maybe starting to realise you fancy girls?
Boom, gender dysphoria.

Add in some family complications (maybe you see yourself as being more like your dad than your mum? Or your brother is the golden child? And a bit of the old ‘not like other girls’ and angsty teen rebelling against the system/tumblr communities and swallowing down the worst parts of feminism (you’ll always be oppressed! Sex work is work! You’ll definitely get raped at some point!) and you get a teenage transman.

A tiny fraction of the current numbers of tomboy-adolescent transmen have been around for ages, but until very recently wouldn’t have transitioned until adulthood (I went to school with a butch girl who everyone thought was a boy back in the 80s, she went on to transition in the mid 90s and it did kinda make practical sense to everyone who knew her - I remember a little girl literally bursting into tears on seeing baby butch in the kindergarten toilets, that shit’s gonna tire you out eventually, so switching from Jane to John just seems like the easier option).

The strange phenomenon that we are currently in the midst of is what is controversially called ROGD - Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. These are the girls who have always been normies, rather than extreme GNC tomboys - much of the same stuff about societal changes at adolescence applies to these girls too, but as they had previously not seemed to be particularly invested in boy stuff, ‘coming out’ blindsides parents. These girls are influenced by trans you tubers like ‘JammiDodger’ and they subconsciously see trooning out as being the solution to what ever problems they are ruminating on (sometimes really big issues, like childhood sexual abuse, but also typical teen bullshit, which feels massive at the time but inconsequential when you look back from adulthood). These girls could be of any sexual orientation, but whoever they are attracted to, they clearly aren’t feeling comfortable with it yet. These are the ones who create micro labels for themselves.
They are they exact some group of sensitive, complicated girls who have long been known to experience self harm via social contagion. In my day, they were the anorexics, a few years later, the ones who cut themselves with razor blades. There have even been contagions of suicide amongst this population (there is an excellent bbc documentary about a suicide contagion on Instagram.

The third type can be boys or girls and they develop a cross sex identity as a maladaptive coping mechanism for trauma. Ken Zucker describes a girl who witnessed the brutal murder of her own mother and then started identifying as a boy as a protective coping mechanism, If she was male, she would’ve been able to protect her mother better, if she was male, she wouldn’t grow up to be a woman like her mum, she wouldn’t be a woman murdered by a man. Trying to turn herself into a boy was more of a PTSD type disassociation combined with an ASD type ‘functional behaviour’ (will be back with a link for this).

Little boys have started identifying as girls after being molested by a paedo - a very small boy who suddenly starts declaring that he hates his penis and wants it removed is statistically more likely to have been a victim of serious sexual abuse than be a truandhonesttranswoman. Some children take on a cross sex identity to subconsciously attempt to heal the trauma their parents have experienced - Dr David Bell describes a girls who began identifying as a boy after her brother died - she was trying to give her parents a son again, but obvs, as a tiny child, that motivation isn’t going to be a deliberate one.
These stories are the ones that upset me the most. There is a higher proportion of trans kids in the ‘looked after’ system than in the wider population. Trans activists will hand wave this away as kids being rejected by transphobic parents, but it’s far more likely due to extreme trauma and the same trauma that led to them being taken away from the family also causes the cross sex identity. This group is absolutely being harmed by transactivism, social workers are coming out of uni drunk on PoMo and wokeness, kids who have been fucked up by a us I’ve adults are unable to obtain proper psychological support and remedial therapy due to all this affirmation only/no conversion therapy shit. These kids are doubly doomed, I fear.

Group 4 are the fetishists, these are mostly boys but girls are increasingly exhibiting similar traits. AGPs used to transition in middle age but are getting younger and younger - I suspect this is largely due to the accessibility of hardcore porn. It used to take years, decades even for the AGP fetish to build, starting out with occasional cross dressing and then repeating a purge/binge cycle until finally transitioning. Now you see teen AGPs coming out (Lily Madigan is a good example of this).
The low effort, thigh high socks lot are, I believe, a new sub branch if AGP. They get the majority of their sex thrill by playing video games using female avatars and calling themselves girls online. It’s where old fashioned AGP meets super online lives, if the internet had never existed, these guys would probably never have made it past the wanking whilst wearing their sister’s knickers stage.
The girls who fantasise about being gay men (autohomoerotics, as Blanchard has called them) are another sub branch of AGP type behaviour that probably wouldn’t have happened without the internet.

I dunno why I typed all that when I coulda just linked to this - an expert view on the types of ‘trans kids’


yeah, yeah, double post, but have you seen the size of this one? Also, phone typing.
I have to say that I am so glad American public schools haven’t forced girls to wear skirts since the 60s. Some of the more down at heel high schools around here have uniforms, but I see the girls in (almost always very tight) khakis 95% of the time. If girl is wearing a skirt it’s because she’s Muslim. (And the only woman I see at mass in a skirt is a nun. I think most women don’t like them very much except when it’s warm).
I hadn’t considered that uniforms would be behind why there’s so many teen girls coming out in the UK. I also wonder if it encourages a binary trans identity, which is more likely to lead to hormones, as opposed to non binary, as well as feeling it has to be permanent, since it would be noticeable if you switched uniforms back?
 

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Shit, how about just letting your little boy have full access to the dressing up box and then leaving him alone to fully develop his sexual orientation on his own terms, at the appropriate time (adolescence) and then just not acting like an arsehole when he brings his first boyfriend home for dinner or wants to go to prom with another boy from the drama club?
The little ones are pretty much universally femme-y boys. If you leave them alone they will almost definitely grow up to be gay men. Some will actually turn out to be fairly masc gay men. This ‘sissy boy’ type behaviour is sometimes described as being ‘pre-gay’ as in, they can’t really be called gay until they start having sexual feelings, but girly-boy behaviour in boys under the age of 7 is a good predictor for growing up to be a homosexual male.
Parents of boys like this should just leave them alone to do their glittery, fun thing, maybe give them a bit of a protective explanatory talk from time to time (if they are struggling to fit in at school or being bullied) but don’t relate it to sexual orientation until they are old enough for that to be developmentally appropriate. Maybe find them a well adjusted gay role model in a godfather type role (eg family friend who comes round for dinner from time to time) so that when the kid starts figuring out they are same sex attracted it doesn’t make them feel like they are alone/weird/will be rejected if they come out
Everything else you said seems right, but, ffs, can't you see how you espouse the very same double standarts that this shit got started by?
Girl in sports ok, boy likes glittet and clothing that would not chaffe or restrict? Uwu future homo.
I understand this is cultural conditioning, but, like, try sitying there and thinking for a bit.
This very forum had seen stories of adult guys being pressured into dating gay despite being straight as an arrow. Because uwu.
/mati
 

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Ken Zucker describes a girl who witnessed the brutal murder of her own mother and then started identifying as a boy as a protective coping mechanism, If she was male, she would’ve been able to protect her mother better, if she was male, she wouldn’t grow up to be a woman like her mum, she wouldn’t be a woman murdered by a man.
Fuck, man, my heart.
 

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BTW, I've been following this thread for a while and I have not yet seen a case of young F2M child. Young M2F? Aplenty. Teen F2M? Also. Teen M2F? Rare, but there are few. But no young F2Ms. I also have not seen a case when it's the father who is okay with transness and the mother is not. Makes you think.
mothers wanting a girl instead of a boy arent that uncommon, same for mothers wanting a 'special' child they can parade around on the internet for attention. add to that the fact that these women have a deep hatred for cis white men and the result is a bunch of mothers trooning out their sons for their own gratification and woke cred.

no such dynamic really exists in fathers / daughters though. maybe because men are overall less likely to drink the tranny kool-aid or succumb to woke ideology in general, maybe because they're less likely to be social media attention seekers. at "worst" you occasionally see fathers trying to drag their daughters into male hobbies and activities in order to spend time and bond with them.
 

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Well I'm sure the parents who say their kid can be anything will be perfectly happy with a desister, too.

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Son: Mom, I want to be a girl!

Mother: Of course! Here are puberty blockers & hormones. You can get srs when you are older.

Son: Mom, I want to be a boy again!

Mother: Wtf?? I'm confused & don't know what to do.
 

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Son: Mom, I want to be a girl!

Mother: Of course! Here are puberty blockers & hormones. You can get srs when you are older.

Son: Mom, I want to be a boy again!

Mother: Wtf?? I'm confused & don't know what to do.
That's the "nice", public response.

In private, "How dare you make mommy look unwoke! No, changing, back, EVERRRRR!" ...

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mothers wanting a girl instead of a boy arent that uncommon, same for mothers wanting a 'special' child they can parade around on the internet for attention. add to that the fact that these women have a deep hatred for cis white men and the result is a bunch of mothers trooning out their sons for their own gratification and woke cred.

no such dynamic really exists in fathers / daughters though. maybe because men are overall less likely to drink the tranny kool-aid or succumb to woke ideology in general, maybe because they're less likely to be social media attention seekers. at "worst" you occasionally see fathers trying to drag their daughters into male hobbies and activities in order to spend time and bond with them.
Part of the problem is that it's harder to gender-bend a girl at this point, like @UnsufficentBoobage said with sports and everything else. It's all accessible to girls. A boy in a dress and tiara, holding a barbie = trans-girl. A girl in a batman mask holding a lightsaber toy next to dad grilling meat at a bbq = that's just a girl.

The difference to nutty parents, in my opinion, is that one scenario is secretly seen as emasculating while the other is seen as empowering or free-spirited. It's hard to capitalize on your daughter growing up and liking superhero movies, Star Wars, vidya, go-carts, sports, carpentry, kickboxing, fishing and so on.
 

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