Interns: Pay or Not to Pay? -

Troon Carey

they called me white devil, now they just say fag
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Should internships be a paid gig like apprenticeships? Kinda seems like a loophole to not have to pay people for free labor to me though I saw Tomi Lahren tweeting and defending the concept of not paying for work.
 

Furret

Going to walk all over the world one day.
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I'm of the opinion that they're doing a job and should be paid, but I'm not optimistic about it actually happening. Corporations have convinced people that working for free so you can earn the right to work for money later is a good system.
 

Bassomatic

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If unpaid there should be something else tied to it. Ie no training/class costs or earn a free credit for it.

Internships really pay off in the long game. But to stiff pay is pretty crappy. Some colleges get you one and they have great hire on rates but if you're not paid they really should pick up a certification some loan debt or something.

Granted i also don't think you should not be barred from interning for free but it's pretty shitty to even allow it vs a pittance.
 

Troon Carey

they called me white devil, now they just say fag
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If unpaid there should be something else tied to it. Ie no training/class costs or earn a free credit for it.

Internships really pay off in the long game. But to stiff pay is pretty crappy. Some colleges get you one and they have great hire on rates but if you're not paid they really should pick up a certification some loan debt or something.

Granted i also don't think you should not be barred from interning for free but it's pretty shitty to even allow it vs a pittance.
No kidding, I had someone IRL try and convince me because when they were an intern they did such a poor job that it isn't worth paying interns. Mind you, he was living off the GI bill and was actively trying to spin a web that literally anyone could work without pay.
 

Bassomatic

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No kidding, I had someone IRL try and convince me because when they were an intern they did such a poor job that it isn't worth paying interns. Mind you, he was living off the GI bill and was actively trying to spin a web that literally anyone could work without pay.
Relevant but when I interned it was paid (low mind you) and already had a cum lade undergrad degree.

It gave me a huge boost and I'm sad more places don't push for it. I was offered a good job from it and wasn't working for the nicest little mom and pop shop. (Ie one who'd be happy to turn and burn people) i passed and had much greener pastures. But having exp got me into the offers to start.
 

Mother puss bucket

OC Do not steal
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How about you let the people making the agreement decide and stay out of it? If I want to give you a week's training in exchange for a weeks work and we both agree with it what's the problem? There's lots of jobs which pay terribly low wages and require hard work to get into. Earning your dues is part of that culture and it's an important gate keeping method. If people want it bad enough they will earn it and do the industry proud, if they don't they won't and will go else where.

Be responsible for the agreements and contracts you sign. If you want to be paid then make that deal, if you don't then make that deal. There's no good universal rule here. There's plenty of safari parks where you pay to work with the animals for a week, it's how many animal sanctuaries fund themselves and manage to stay open.
 

Penis Drager

My memes are ironic; my depression is chronic
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Either or is fine.
If you find an intern willing to work for free, take it. Otherwise, pay them the bare minimum.
I've done unpaid surveying work in a wetland sanctuary that they were turning into a public park or some shit. Slapped that on my resume and never did that kind of work again. But it IS on the CV.
 

lurk_moar

Certified Lab Tech and Fatphobe
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In my two internships, I am paying for the privilege to be there and learn.

Internships are taken as credit classes towards my degree for my major. The textbook theory and the real world in my profession simply don't match up.
 
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