Is Chris actually capable of love? -

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A-Stump

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I was just thinking about it and it seems weird to say but, I don't honestly think he is. Every interaction he has seems to be self fulfilling rather than motivated by any true emotions. To bring up a few relationships in his life;

He didn't seem to actually care at all when his father was ill and dying. The information had to he pried out of him, and when Bob died, it didn't really seem to take any sort of toll on him. It was back to vidya, raging at McDonald's employees, and ranting about MLP. He was even more upset when his Aunt Corina died....

Only because it meant that he had to go to a funeral instead of stuffing his face with pancakes.

What about Patti? Yes he seemed upset that she had died and even brought her back as a character in his comic, only to later try to get back at the trolls by making a video where he dug Patti up and wore her as a coat. I know it was just Chris referencing a popular fake trolling plan to dig Patti up, but Damn...

His sweethearts? At least three 'died' due to tragic circumstances and he seemed to barely notice or care. He'd get right back on the horse again and quickly find some new china, and this is telling because in his mind these women actually existed

Megan, who he claimed to love, was nothing but a sexual experience he fully expected to get. He spent time and money in an investment to claim her. There was no love in his interactions, she couldn't even be considered his friend because he was only trying to use her.

Speaking of, the same thing happened with the Wallflower. He melded in with her interests much like he did with Megan only as a ploy to establish himself and try to get an ounce of China. He openly admitted that he was planning to use her for sex because he didn't want to have to blow a hundred bucks on a hooker and didn't have much to say beyond that.

So can Chris truly feel love? Every attempt just seems as if he's putting on a half-assed play, trying to assimilate himself into a situation to wholly serve his own needs. Nothing he does speaks of a true unconditional yearning to accept and be accepted. Instead it's reward VS consequence, a constant cycle of make believe in order to fool others (and himself) except he's not very good at it. Thoughts?
 

The I Scream Man

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A-Stump said:
He didn't seem to actually care at all when his father was ill and dying. The information had to he pried out of him, and when Bob died, it didn't really seem to take any sort of toll on him. It was back to vidya, raging at McDonald's employees, and ranting about MLP.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Marvin mentioned that he heard a Skype call or some other audio that had Chris for-real sobbing over his dad.

That being said, I kind of see what you getting at: namely that anyone else's grief would perhaps have spurred the sort of grieving that makes you think carefully about your actions. In Chris's case, I'm not certain that's possible, because haha dude's dumb as hell. Also, his turnaround time seemed to be accelerated as well.

As far as love is concerned, Chris may or may not be able to feel it and experience it but I doubt it would resemble what you or I would call love, because as others have said when this topic came up, the kind of love we know involves sacrifice for other people and actually giving a shit, and Chris is either too stupid to do so or can't express those feelings adequately. I'm sure he's able to experience it in his own way, however, but only if his extremely specific requirements are met.
 

A-Stump

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TheIceCreamMan said:
A-Stump said:
He didn't seem to actually care at all when his father was ill and dying. The information had to he pried out of him, and when Bob died, it didn't really seem to take any sort of toll on him. It was back to vidya, raging at McDonald's employees, and ranting about MLP.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Marvin mentioned that he heard a Skype call or some other audio that had Chris for-real sobbing over his dad.

That being said, I kind of see what you getting at: namely that anyone else's grief would perhaps have spurred the sort of grieving that makes you think carefully about your actions. In Chris's case, I'm not certain that's possible, because haha dude's dumb as hell.

If it was posted off-hand here, I wouldn't know because I only recently joined the forum and got most of my information from the CWCki. If I don't see screencaps or listen to the actual audio of something I'm not liable to believe it, either.
 

The Dude

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Chris was seriously fucked up when Bob died, like for a while. The call is so upsetting they aren't ever going to release it. Chris loved his Dad.
 

A-Stump

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The Dude said:
Chris was seriously fucked up when Bob died, like for a while. The call is so upsetting they aren't ever going to release it. Chris loved his Dad.

So shouldn't the CWCki be amended to say such a thing? It makes it look like he did nothing more than resent Bob. I mean for people not constantly on the forum and in the know that's probably the impression they get too.
 

CWCissey

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Only Storge love. As proved by the apparently upsetting phone call of Chris crying.

As for erotic love...

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Plissken

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Yes, Chris is an autistic with a shitty upbringing, not a sociopath, he's shown empathy before.
 

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A-Stump said:
The Dude said:
Chris was seriously fucked up when Bob died, like for a while. The call is so upsetting they aren't ever going to release it. Chris loved his Dad.

So shouldn't the CWCki be amended to say such a thing? It makes it look like he did nothing more than resent Bob. I mean for people not constantly on the forum and in the know that's probably the impression they get too.

It probably is somewhere. Or maybe it's a method of stopping weens asking to hear it. A necessary evil like.
 

Giovanni

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Chris does not love people. Chris loves what people can do for him.

The closest thing to love that I've ever seen from Chris was to his dog, and even that was eventually co-opted into some bizarre ghost slave to his vengeful will.
 

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A-Stump said:
The Dude said:
Chris was seriously fucked up when Bob died, like for a while. The call is so upsetting they aren't ever going to release it. Chris loved his Dad.

So shouldn't the CWCki be amended to say such a thing? It makes it look like he did nothing more than resent Bob. I mean for people not constantly on the forum and in the know that's probably the impression they get too.

Even in Chris's life some things should stay private.
 

Batman VS Tony Danza

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Is he capable of love? Yes.

Will he ever love anyone beyond his parents? Probably not.

Chris's social skills and personality are so volatile that really nobody can stand to spend the time it would require for Chris to reach that level of attachment.
 

ExtraPickles

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I think he's fully capable of feeling love, he just has difficulty expressing it in socially acceptable and understood ways due to his autism.

For example, I imagine he did love his Aunt Corina's, but, let's face it, funerals <i>suck</i>. I'm sure many of us have been to funerals of people we love very much, and yet we've wished we were somewhere else, doing something we actually wanted to do. However, we have been socialized to not only not express that feeling of being inconvenienced, but to put them aside and focus on something more important than ourselves--like the passing of a family member. We've been socialized to think and care about things other than ourselves.

I suspect that Chris doesn't have a firm grasp on what is socially acceptable and expected in a case such as Aunt Corina's funeral. All he knew was it inconvenienced him and he saw no reason not to say something.

As for him brushing off his "sweethearts" so easily, I think it's because love wasn't so much a factor as lust was. Once the object of lust is gone, he sees no reason to linger on it. That's just Chris and his brand of autism.

PS: I hope this post made sense. I'm fighting a bit of insomnia tonight, so my brain is pretty much mush.
 

Some JERK

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Sure, in the same way that he's capable of being a happy, successful, contributing member of society; Until he gets over his notion that he is the center of the entire fucking universe, he'll never experience it.
 

Wall of Originals

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I think he is capable of affection, not love. He is too damned lazy and selfish to love unconditionally aside from his parents. Even then, I question that.
 

Judge Holden

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No. he is a soulless autistic killing machine who feeds only on fear, the suffering of others, fanta, and q-sands.
 
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