Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 402 83.4%
  • no

    Votes: 50 10.4%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 30 6.2%

  • Total voters
    482

Tlazolli

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I think there’s a difference on being a child sexual abuse victim drawing weird pedoshit and a honest to god pedophile. One is an abuse victim who is desperately trying to regain control of their life through unhealthy means and the other is a manchild who is so incel, he can’t manipulate women his own age, so he craves girls with the same emotional and intellectual capacity as himself.

That said, I don’t care if you’re a childhood sexual abuse victim, but you’re not helping yourself by drawing porn of your abuse, yikes. Get help.

As for pedophiles or lolicons, please kill yourselves.

Pedoshit is unacceptable, gross.
 

CynicallyInsane

Amateur Christorian
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Loli IS child Pornography & anyone who gets off on that crap IS a warped sicko & a pedophile..why even question this & debate it...
It all depends how you define CP. I don't believe that with all of the real stuff out there, where there is an actual victim, the police should go after drawings and 3D generated images because doing so doesn' benefit anyone since it is literally a victimless crime. Of course the majority of the people who jerk it to loli are in need of some serious help but the act in itself is not evil.
 
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Pixichick

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It all depends how you define CP. I don't believe that with all of the real stuff out there, where there is an actual victim, the police should go after drawings and 3D generated images because doing so doesn' benefit anyone since it is literally a victimless crime. Of course the majority of the people who jerk it to loli are in need of some serious help but the act in itself is not evil.

But the act of beating off wether male or female to this crap causes many of these warped sick creatures to go out in the real world and then sadly there's victims...
 

CynicallyInsane

Amateur Christorian
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But the act of beating off wether male or female to this crap causes many of these warped sick creatures to go out in the real world and then sadly there's victims...
Quotation needed...(seriously, I'd like to see some studies)

but I agree, I don't think looking at this stuff if you're a pedo who has not offended isn't really the best course of action, then again the victims are not produced by the drawings but by their abusers who failed to deal with their issues in a responsible manner.
 

Pixichick

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Quotation needed...(seriously, I'd like to see some studies)

but I agree, I don't think looking at this stuff if you're a pedo who has not offended isn't really the best course of action, then again the victims are not produced by the drawings but by their abusers who failed to deal with their issues in a responsible manner.
I see what u saying....
But...point is...a grown ass adult...wanting to look at drawings, pics ,porn or whatever of innocent CHILDREN...is some damn sick shit..no excuse...there is just no excuse for that sick shit...

Different if u an adult looking at ADULT drawings, pics, porn...
 

Alex's Waifu

Currently rubbing my tits into a manchild.
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I see what u saying....
But...point is...a grown ass adult...wanting to look at drawings, pics ,porn or whatever of innocent CHILDREN...is some damn sick shit..no excuse...there is just no excuse for that sick shit...

Different if u an adult looking at ADULT drawings, pics, porn...
Now is the actual age that turns them on or just the appearance of age?
Is it wrong to be sexually aroused by a 13 year old who happens to look 18? Or is it the fact that said person is young that is appealing? (aka innocent, pure, virgin-esque)
I think I'm missing a major point here...
 

DarkTriad

COUSIN LET'S GO BOWLING
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lol what's wrong with beating it to pornography
https://fightthenewdrug.org/3-reasons-why-watching-porn-is-harmful/
http://thermidormag.com/let-it-all-burn/

Those two links explain pretty well my objections to pornographic filth.
Okay, what religous sect are you part of?
None. I am an agnostic. Just because I rightfully call out pornography for the plague on society it is doesn't mean that I am a religious fundamentalist.
 

Pickle Inspector

True & Honest Fan
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Nazi vegeta

tfs vegeta
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this is one of those things where i can say yes, it's fiction. so it's technically not hurting anyone--

--yet i still think anyone who enjoys that shit is a massive untrustworthy faggot.

tards online can screetch all they want that it's J-JUST FICTION, but in the end morals and gut-feeling will ultimately win out. know what my gut feeling tells me? that lolicons are fags.
truth is, most lolicons are just huge manchildren.
they're still trying to reconnect with their lost childhood and cant let it go.
 

TheClorax

Straight up Leaving the Farms...
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It completely depends on a person’s moral ground. There is no completely wrong or right answer here.
Personally, I view porn of any kind as something no one should see, or have, and with the increasing popularity of the internet, porn is becoming more and more common, people used to have to be far more clever in how they got it, sneaking into night clubs, any of that kind of shit. But as said, with the increase of internet, increase of porn frequency.
 

A Cold Potato

yeah... oh, no shame, no shame in these farts
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SwanDive

Skyburner
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EDIT: Sorry for the font, don't know how to fix it =\

Okay no. FTND is fucking autistic and I'm surprised that they don't have a thread here.

1. Porn Can Change & Rewire Your Brain

Anything can rewire your brain. It's nothing special. It's hardly a reason for alarm. Sometimes it's bad, but it's normally good. Going through these sources, the only time that it produces a negative outcome is when it comes to porn addiction, which is a real problem. But the issue with FTND is that they are unable to separate people who use pornography and people who are addicted to pornography, and simply assume that the effects of addiction affect anyone who enjoys porn.

2. A Porn Habit Can Escalate Into Twisted Territory
Many users find themes of aggression, violence, and increasingly “edgy” acts creeping into their porn habits and fantasies.
Oh no, people are developing kinks. Someone stop the fucking presses. I'm not really sure what the problem is here. Like, it's fine not to be into certain fetishes, but I don't really see any reason to demonize them.

3. Porn Can Be Addictive
Research shows that of all the forms of online entertainment—like gambling, gaming, surfing, and social networking—porn has the strongest tendency to be addictive.
Again, just because something is addictive doesn't mean it's bad. Like, just saying that it has the "strongest tendency to be addictive" doesn't tell us anything, because "strongest" is a relative term. It's just another framing device to make something that is otherwise harmless seem harmful. Kinda like what happened with video games. And rock music. And a ton of other forms of media.

4. Porn Can Heavily Affect Your Sexual Tastes
15. Porn Is Changing To Be More Shocking & Hardcore Than Ever

Again, I'm not sure what the problem is here. Like, it's fun to make fun of sexual deviants, but they're only a laughing stock. A group like furries are fun to mock, but this article is trying demonize these people. Like, they aren't harmful to anyone, so what's the big deal? Maybe if someone got really into rape porn and started raping people, then yeah, it'd be harmful. But at the same time, the probability of that happening is so low, it's neglible.

5. Porn Can Affect Your Brain (Similar To A Drug)
6. Porn Can Damage Your Sex Life

At this point, I'm just amused to see how many times they can restate the same point just so they can slap "15" in the title. Like, most newswriters try to be concise and avoid repeating themselves, but this just comes off as some run of the mill Buzzfeed article.

7. Porn Is Full Of Lies
11. Porn Can Warp A Healthy View Of Sex

Real shocker with this one. It's not like the only people who think porn is real are people who have never had sex before. Actually, really only 14 year old boys think porn is real, so I'll give some credit to the virgins.

8. Porn Can Damage Love
9. Porn Can Leave You Lonely
10. Porn Can Hurt Your Partner
13. Porn Can Seriously Hurt Your Family & Personal Life

Shockingly, all of the sources on this part deal with addiction. No one should be surprised that people with an addiction have shitty relationships with other people. I honestly wonder what FTND actually does for addicts. Because trying to stop people from watching porn by lying about how harmful it is is doing jack shit to help people with a serious problem. It's like trying to teach abstinence in schools. It's exceptional and doesn't work.

12. Porn Is Inseparably Linked To Prostitution & Sex Trafficking
Holy shit, a real fucking issue is being talked about. But again, pornography isn't to blame. Prostitution is the oldest job in the world, and it's been a shitty job long before Internet porn has been around. Not that there's anything wrong with prostitution, but it doesn't take a genious to figure out that a lot of abuse happens in that world. So rather, I would much rather work to help legalize and regulate prostitution and help abused sex workers get a leg up in life. But no, porn is the problem here, my bad.

14. Porn Is Connected To Violence
Yeah, and so are video games. And so is rock music. Have you ever been in a mosh pit? That never happens at church with hymns (pentecostals not withstanding)

Now, all those points asside, they don't piss me off. This article is nothing more than some idiot with access to a keyboard. What really pisses me off is that these fuckers have the audacity to talk about how people with porn addictions suffer. How the actors involved suffer. How sex workers suffer. And they fucking shill you a goddamn t-shirt as a means of "helping". WHAT THE FUCK HAS A T-SHIRT EVER FUCKING DONE?!

Fuck this article. Fuck FTND. And fuck you for falling for this garbage.








 

DarkTriad

COUSIN LET'S GO BOWLING
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Can you elaborate?
4. Porn Can Heavily Affect Your Sexual Tastes
15. Porn Is Changing To Be More Shocking & Hardcore Than Ever

Again, I'm not sure what the problem is here. Like, it's fun to make fun of sexual deviants, but they're only a laughing stock. A group like furries are fun to mock, but this article is trying demonize these people. Like, they aren't harmful to anyone, so what's the big deal? Maybe if someone got really into rape porn and started raping people, then yeah, it'd be harmful. But at the same time, the probability of that happening is so low, it's neglible.
While sexual deviants can be lolcows, at the end of the day they are sexual deviants. The problem is not only sexual deviants themselves but the frequency of said sexual deviants and also that certain types of sexual deviancy is being forced upon normal people and calling it out makes you a bigot (cough LGBTWTFBBQ cough).
14. Porn Is Connected To Violence
Yeah, and so are video games. And so is rock music. Have you ever been in a mosh pit? That never happens at church with hymns (pentecostals not withstanding)
Sex and violence are part of the human condition. Mixing both is a recipe for disaster.
12. Porn Is Inseparably Linked To Prostitution & Sex Trafficking
Holy shit, a real fucking issue is being talked about. But again, pornography isn't to blame. Prostitution is the oldest job in the world, and it's been a shitty job long before Internet porn has been around. Not that there's anything wrong with prostitution, but it doesn't take a genious to figure out that a lot of abuse happens in that world. So rather, I would much rather work to help legalize and regulate prostitution and help abused sex workers get a leg up in life. But no, porn is the problem here, my bad.
But pornography further fuels this issue. Prostitution is another thing I object to (beyond the scope of this discussion).

Also you never bothered to even reply to the second article I linked. Was it so powerful that you were upset by it?
 

SwanDive

Skyburner
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The problem is not only sexual deviants themselves
Why are the sexual deviants themselves a "problem"? How are you defining deviant? Are you aware that "deviant" is largely contextual and changes within a culture over time?
but the frequency of said sexual deviants
Why is the "frequency" of such sexual deviance a problem?
also that certain types of sexual deviancy is being forced upon normal people
Is that the fault of pornography? Is that inherent part of sexual deviance?
Sex and violence are part of the human condition. Mixing both is a recipe for disaster.
How and why are they a recipe for disaster?
But pornography further fuels this issue
I could go full communist and make a much stronger case that capitalism fuels this abuse far more than pornography ever did. There are hundreds if not thousands of causes for abuse in the sex worker industry, but I see hardly any reason to demonize pornography for a problem that isn't inherently caused by it, or contributes to it in some grand way.
Also you never bothered to even reply to the second article I linked.
I was so pissed off by the first one that I forgot, but I'll go over it.
scientists like Dr. William Struthers, a psychology professor at Wheaton College in Illinois, believes that high consumption of online pornography correlates to increased chances of infidelity, increased chances of engaging in dangerous sexual behavior, and increased likelihood of equating sex with violence 1.
All Struthers brings up in this article is that people can be addicted to porn (duh)
https://nypost.com/2017/02/16/is-watching-porn-harmful-to-your-health/
In that same article, another psychologist named Ian Kerner argued
In fact, in Kerner’s experience, ethical, so-called feminist pornography — which often features storylines, and always contracted, paid adults having consensual sex — can enhance couples’ sexual experiences by helping partners get warmed up and be creative in the bedroom.
So already I'm getting mixed messages from the source in regards to what the article wants me to believe. Based on this, the problem isn't with pornography, but with porn addiction.
Even worse, porn-addled brains do not get married. Porn addicts do not usually have kids either, for constant overstimulation deadens natural sexual urges.
You know, as shit as the FTND article was, at least it had sources.
In that year, porn star Cameron Bay said that she tested positive for HIV after doing a shoot with a male actor who did not wear a condom. Even worse, Bay said that the actor in question was bleeding from sores while on the set. Producers hid this fact from Bay at the time 2.
Overall, in 2009, there were twenty-two reported cases of HIV in the porn industry, with most being present in the gay film sub-genre 3. This overrepresentation of HIV in the homosexual side of things is in keeping with larger trends in America. Of the 1.1 million HIV carriers in the U.S. today, a majority are gay and/or bisexual men. Gay black men are even more likely to carry the disease than their white counterparts 4.
So there are 22 reported cases of HIV in the porn industry. Let's just assume that these reports are no where near representative of reality and it's actually 5x the amount. So that's 110 porn stars. In an industry with tens of thousands of actors at any given time. So while this is a problem, it's no where near enough to attack porn.
Porn is indeed one of the strongest producers of globalist soldiers for the left.
I thought that was Soros? Where's the Soros sex tape? That'd probably turn the whole world into globalist super-commie BLM feminists by this guy's logic.
Interracial pornography, by which is usually meant films featuring black male actors and white female actresses, is disproportionally run by Jewish filmmakers who have made it clear that their goal is to break down the cultural prestige of Gentile women
Okay, now we're on the Jew train. After this, the article just kinda devolves into ramblings out our Jewish overlords (praise them) and how they're trying to destroy the west or some dogshit. Not really related to pornography, and based on the last paragraph of the article, I wouldn't be surprised if it's satire (but given Poe's law, it probably isn't)
Ames lived a life of sin, and she committed the ultimate act of debauchery by offing herself. However, her misspent life can teach us something, namely that the left are the satanic enemies of life. They support chewing up of young women as some sort of liberation, then when they express concerns about the unhealthy lives of others, they are pushed to suicide.

Such is life in modern America.
 
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