Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 448 81.9%
  • no

    Votes: 60 11.0%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 39 7.1%

  • Total voters
    547

Sure Thing Idiot

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Anything sexual that interferes with safe, consensual decision making is bad. That sounds like a loaded statement but in context if you're asking the rest of the world if wanking it to small children, drawings of children mind you, anime or portraits or whatever, you already know the answer. It's abnormal and you shouldn't be attracted to kids in the way. Does it make it different because it's a drawing? Yes. You're not harming anyone and no real human is involed therefore you can kind of jerk it all day long if you want, but there after asks the question why and what is it about kids in a sexual or suggestive way that you wanna defend or debate?

To most people the thought itself is a very uncomfortable one because it interferes with ethics and morals. I absolutely hate kids but if a kid was crying in a mall and ran up to me because he couldn't find his mom I'd try to help. To add a layer of sexuality over a child, imaginary or not, requires a conscious absence of accountability, to view a drawing of a child in a sexual way - innocently drawn or not - is one that demands perversion of intense nature, one that goes ultimately against the common adult. That's why it's fucked up. Two consenting adults may engage in whatever sexual fuckery they want, or drawings of it, but a child is vulnerable and naive, unable to grasp fully the consequence of their decisions which is where they need adult accountability to look to or depend upon. One pervert ruins them all. If you wanna rub one out to some little anime kid or a sketch of a dog, all the power to you, keep it to yourself don't try to defend or debate it.
 
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And yet Nabokov's Lolita isn't banned or considered unacceptable to read.
It's because you're not supposed to find it acceptable, let alone arousing, that he's raping a child. Loli porn is meant to be arousing.

I don't really have a strong opinion on whether or not it should be illegal. It's fucking gross, that's for sure, but it's not necessary to harm an actual child in order to make it, so I don't think it should be considered just as bad as actual CP.
 

carltondanks

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Lolis are kids and if someone enjoys loli art that means that they are attracted to minors which by definition makes them a pedophile. If pedophiles continue to engage in their fetish, then its only a matter of time before they end up acting on their desires. No pedophile ever starts off raping kids, they gradually build up their fetish over time. What may start off as fapping to lolis will escalate to looking at real kids and before you know you are fapping while watching kids. If your friends are into loli you need to get them help instead of encouraging them.
we need a therapy program like germany has where people can anonymously get help for this. i heard it works
 

Delta__Heavy

Longposter
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A childlike caricature of a female is just that - a caricature. The removal of such content to people who have those fantasies and have issues controlling themselves means that they might get real cp (or worse, do it themselves), but on the flipside one could argue that allowing such content would also be encouragement, which both are slippery slopes in general. It's not a problem if the viewer enjoys it for the sake of enjoying petite women but the moment it's a true child involved is when someone should likely seek help, as to sexualize a pre-pubescent person is unnatural. People are meant to be attracted to signs of fertility (such as curves in women).

Now, everyone has each of their own fetishes, absolutely - The point of this post is to stress that it's not natural to be sexually attracted to someone who's physically unable to have a child because of their youth. To regulate distribution rather than to completely cut or to completely allow would probably better serve the purposes of those worried about the outcome of such allowance.

Irrelevant sidenote \/
To look into those who have this issue as far as past abuse and young encounters would be pretty interesting.
 

Ilovecum

Cumslut level over 9000
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If your fapping to hentai that is based off raping kids your a bad person.

If you just like Kawaii things and prefer to dress up and just think lolis are cute and best girl that just makes you autistic.

If you prefer women dressed in lolita style clothes well? We all have preferences.

I think context plays a role here. While I do agree that drawn violence against kids shouldn't be wrong in a legal sense I think it's still wrong morally. Not to mention I think lolicon has two varying meanings in both an eastern and a western sense and during the days in which anime and manga started gaining a mainstream following in Japan Lolita meant really anything.
 

Slap47

Hehe xd
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From what I understand, lolicons are usually attracted to the cuteness of the character rather than their age. I’m not sure if this makes things better or worse.

That being said, why do weebs need to go through unnecessary lengths to prove that it’s not creepy or weird? Just accept it for what it is and get on with your life.
Because people want to crack down on it?
 

Medici

1999
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Kinda going off topic but it's still loosely related to the subject. A lot of these people just really can't control themselves. Anyone really into how a pedophile's mind works should try to watch a lot of shit like raw uncut footage of conversations between Chris Hansen and actual predators during classic episodes of the original program. There's a lot to learn about it and it's incredibly fascinating yet stomach turning. You really fucking feel bad for these people but then you remember the horrible things they say and potential threat they pose to our most innocent and defenseless members of society, children.

Like you want to beat the shit out of these people, but also get them help because a lot of these idiots seem completely harmless (at least from a first glance). They always seem so socially inept and underdeveloped. Tons of them are man-children and most likely have a disorder or were never really bold enough to talk to girls when they started getting sexual urges. However I think what really pisses me off about these guys is that they don't HAVE to do any of this mess. There are tons of freak shows out there just like them that'd probably love to role-play or do whatever gross stuff behind closed doors with them.

There are so many flat chested / short women out there that there's no real excuse to even go for a child. It's so hard to wrap your head around. (:_(
 

Slap47

Hehe xd
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There are so many flat chested / short women out there that there's no real excuse to even go for a child. It's so hard to wrap your head around. (:_(
Unrelated to your point but Its very wrong for people to assume that fap material translates into a preference.

Fantasy and reality are very separate things. A good example of this is fact that most trap-lovers are disgusted by troons and even transpeople in general. Another good example might be how it would be wrong to assume that all furries are into bestiality.
 

Scratch This Nut

Problematic Chihuahua
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Unrelated to your point but Its very wrong for people to assume that fap material translates into a preference.

Fantasy and reality are very separate things. A good example of this is fact that most trap-lovers are disgusted by troons and even transpeople in general. Another good example might be how it would be wrong to assume that all furries are into bestiality.
Why are you resurrecting this argument two months later?

EDIT: Use your words.
 
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