Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 436 81.8%
  • no

    Votes: 58 10.9%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 39 7.3%

  • Total voters
    533

Medici

1999
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Unrelated to your point but Its very wrong for people to assume that fap material translates into a preference.

Fantasy and reality are very separate things. A good example of this is fact that most trap-lovers are disgusted by troons and even transpeople in general. Another good example might be how it would be wrong to assume that all furries are into bestiality.
Read it again. That was going off topic and was referring to pedophiles in general. lol
 

blah

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so guess what
1. Its childporn
2. pedophiles use it to groom kids
3. It doesn't matter because it's illegal in the US anyways under 18 U.S. Code § 1466A - Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children
How detailed does the loli need to be for it to count as child porn?
Does it depend on how big of a hardon the judge and prosecutor get, or are there some actual guidelines?
Would this land me in jail:
Maybe the figure to the left is actually a giant?
 

Scratch This Nut

Problematic Chihuahua
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How detailed does the loli need to be for it to count as child porn?
Does it depend on how big of a hardon the judge and prosecutor get, or are there some actual guidelines?
Would this land me in jail:
Maybe the figure to the left is actually a giant?
I'm curious, because no matter how you put it, you're pretty much admitting that you jack it to drawings of children.

I put that in the same category as having herpes. Seek help please but don't go blabbing it to everyone.
 

blah

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I'm curious, because no matter how you put it, you're pretty much admitting that you jack it to drawings of children.
I put that in the same category as having herpes. Seek help please but don't go blabbing it to everyone.
How long did you have to practice to make that leap of thought? Because it's a serious question and in no way does it divulge my own preference of pornographic material.

Are you actually saying that you want a law that can be subjectively interpretated? Are you supposed to convict people depending on their mental state (if they get horny for example) or how do you expect that to work?
Because there are a lot of shapes and figures that can be interpreted whatever way you want, for example the above drawing but also, if you put your mind do it, bathroom graffitti, old childrens shows etc.

Any law that depend on knowing the internal state of the one that the law is being applied to is just plain bad, just as I do not want to be convicted of a crime just because of the judge's personal opinion. Do you love hate speech laws as well or are you just a hypocrite? Answer the questions instead of trying to demonize everyone that argues that your thought policing is bad practice.

There is a difference between getting aroused by children and finding a law """problematic""".

EDIT: Also, 67% of the world's population has herpes. You should get yourself checked out.
 

Scratch This Nut

Problematic Chihuahua
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How long did you have to practice to make that leap of thought? Because it's a serious question and in no way does it divulge my own preference of pornographic material.

Are you actually saying that you want a law that can be subjectively interpretated? Are you supposed to convict people depending on their mental state (if they get horny for example) or how do you expect that to work?
Because there are a lot of shapes and figures that can be interpreted whatever way you want, for example the above drawing but also, if you put your mind do it, bathroom graffitti, old childrens shows etc.

Any law that depend on knowing the internal state of the one that the law is being applied to is just plain bad, just as I do not want to be convicted of a crime just because of the judge's personal opinion. Do you love hate speech laws as well or are you just a hypocrite? Answer the questions instead of trying to demonize everyone that argues that your thought policing is bad practice.

There is a difference between getting aroused by children and finding a law """problematic""".

EDIT: Also, 67% of the world's population has herpes. You should get yourself checked out.
Kiwi farms isn't the best place to have a serious discussion about drawn child porn. Just about everyone here thinks that people who support it are pedos who deserve to be launched into the sun. C+ for trying.

Also lol pedo.
 

Thelostcup

fnord
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Personally I just see it as a lesser evil. If a pedo doesn't have a victimless alternative then what, suppose you, will they turn to? It may not be healthy or really morally okay but it turns out that loli / shota isn't the only kind of fucked up porn involving simulated abuse. Should we lock people up who are into fake rape porn? Should people go to prison for having a drawn picture of Shaggy fucking Scooby Doo on their harddrive? I'm leaning towards the slippery slope argument because that's what is being used against its existence. People argue that it will start pedos on the path towards real CP and actual assault, whereas evidence shows that they either just stick with it or were already into CP before that.
 

Terrorist

Osama bin Ladkin
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I WATCH LITTLE GIRLS GET TENTACLE RAPED IT DOESNT EFFECT U

but seriously, kiddie porn """""loli""""" is some heinous shit and it's a sign of how much we've degraded as a society that this is even up for debate. it's literally child pornography, and the only reason it exists is because some pedos are too skittish to break the law and seek out the real thing. it encourages pedophilic thoughts/behaviors and even initiates them in some people (it's well known that porn consumption influences sexual preferences). i guess it's a lesser evil than actual CP, but gateway drugs are never as bad as the hard stuff. no sane society would tolerate this shit (and nobody did until relatively recently), but we live in clown world, so anything goes.
 

Robot Teapot

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I get the argument that no kids are involved in the creation of it et al etc. The problem I have regardless of this though is, if someone gets into it via 'curiosity' or more realistically, the need for edgier porn because they've burnt out their perv needs via too much other porn, then surely most would then go from loli to actual photos of child abuse. Then some possibly go further and start irl shit.

I think theres strictly 2 ways a paedo becomes a paedo - Neurological issues from birth or at pubertal stage, and just straight up perverts that keep moving on and on to more extreme porn because a dog being bukakked ain't quite fucking doing it for them anymore. In this sense and with these latter types of folk I see loli as a probable gateway to the real crap.

tl;dr - utter gateway to the real crap
 

Diabeetus

Ice cream and apple pie
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If you don't do anything illegal/creepy alongside fapping to loli, I don't care. If it's fictional and only fictional, it shouldn't be illegal. Whether or not I think it's immoral depends on the person.

Just like how furries aren't all degenerates that are turned on by IRL wolves, lolicons aren't all pedophiles who should be busted by Chris Hansen. Are there lolicons that should be arrested? Yeah, of course! But not for anything directly involving the creation/consumption of loli.
 

Apoth42

Hehe xd
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Kiwi farms isn't the best place to have a serious discussion about drawn child porn. Just about everyone here thinks that people who support it are pedos who deserve to be launched into the sun. C+ for trying.

Also lol pedo.
I'd say its the perfect place because its a forum full of people that generally don't give a shit about peoples feelings and a community that tends to hate moral busybodies. Whether its creepy or not is subjective but there is two main arguments around this topic. Can fantasy be harmful and should we do something about harmful fantasy if that's the case?

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