Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad? -

Is OP a pedophile?

  • yes

    Votes: 448 81.8%
  • no

    Votes: 60 10.9%
  • it should be regulated, not outright banned

    Votes: 40 7.3%

  • Total voters
    548

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May I advance a theory of mine that's relevant to this?

I believe that sublimation is ultimately a bad thing.

The usual defense for stuff like loli and violent vidya is that it's sublimation, allowing for the individual to satisfy their need for something without doing the real thing.

The problem is that it's generally known that the more you indulge something, the more your appetite grows for it. In the case of sublimation, the more you sublimate your desire, the more you want to. In a small enough amount it may not matter, just like how most people's appetites have an equilibrium. However, many people have a tendency to go beyond that (get addicted), and some things especially lend themselves to that.

In that case, the more you sublimate, the more you need to sublimate, and eventually it gets to the point where the sublimation no longer satisfies and you need the real thing. The classic, if admittedly contestable, example is Ted Bundy, who claimed that his addiction to violent porn gradually spiraled out of control until he started committing actual murder-rape.

The best way to reduce a bad behavior caused a bad thought is, sheeeeit, DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. Repression isn't good but indulgence isn't either.

TLDR: Wacking your gack to little girl cartoons will make you want to whack it even more, and eventually it won't be enough and you'll want to rape the real thing.
The problem with that logic is that there is no actual proof of it. For example, there is no proof at all that playing a shit load of violent video games will turn you into a murderer, or even make you more violent/aggressive in your general life. And the links between video games and violence are the most studied example of this we have. I refuse to believe that looking at a cartoon will make you a pedo rapist just as much as I refuse to believe that playing call of duty will make you a murderer. If you are willing to cross that line, there is something else much more fundamentally wrong with you, as normal people can tell the difference between fiction and real life.
 
The problem with that logic is that there is no actual proof of it. For example, there is no proof at all that playing a shit load of violent video games will turn you into a murderer, or even make you more violent/aggressive in your general life. And the links between video games and violence are the most studied example of this we have. I refuse to believe that looking at a cartoon will make you a pedo rapist just as much as I refuse to believe that playing call of duty will make you a murderer. If you are willing to cross that line, there is something else much more fundamentally wrong with you, as normal people can tell the difference between fiction and real life.
There are reasons to play violent video games besides murder-lust, though. People play them as a form of interactive fiction, as a way of playing out certain roles (soldier, outlaw, space marine, etc.), as ways of exploring worlds.

I also mentioned, in my own post, that most people are capable of experiencing something without it being a problem, but there is very obviously a group of people who can't. Sheesh, I swear I'm constantly having to make that argument on this site.

Unlike with violent video games, it's very difficult to justify any reason to jerk off to toon-porn other than that you, you know, like little girls. One is something everybody likes. One is something only degenerates like.

The one saving grace that cartoon kiddie porn has is that a lot of hentai addicts seem to develop so much of an attachment to the 2D art style that they can't relate to 3DPD anymore, and while I don't know if this is or isn't a thing in that porn, I wonder if they don't also portray children as acting much more like adults. There may, theoretically, be adults who are sexually attracted to the bodies of children but don't really feel a temptation to pedo out because they can't relate to them.*

*That part comes to mind for me because I can think of how younger (early 20s) women are prettier but I relate best to mid-20s women. I've never heard of a pedophile caring much about what goes on in a child's head, though.
 
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Drawings that sexualize children are still bad. The space that exists in our mind's eye is a real one and must be maintained to certain standards.
People can't control what they like or dislike. Trying to get somebody to "stop liking something" is essentially what gay conversion therapy was about, and considering that was a resounding failure I don't think it's possible to police your desires. If you try to, then eventually you just project your desires onto everybody else. That's how you end up with people pushing anti-homosexual stuff in public who are closeted gays, because they're ashamed of it and don't want to admit their own desires.

What about women with rape fantasies? Are those "tarnishing your mind's eye" as well, because they seem quite regular.
 
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