Is drawn child pornography (loli) bad?

[Snuckening]

No different from a movie with acted murder or a video game where you hit people with a sword...

This is such a retarded argument, yet pedos repeat it constantly, anytime their precious pedo-drawings are threatened.

No. Porn is inherently different to video games, or movies, or tv, or books, or any other medium- Because movies, video games, books, etc don't require physiological arousal, to fulfill thier purpose.

Beastiality porn (drawn, live-action, or whatever) CAN ONLY be used by people who get off to the idea of fucking animals. Foot-fetish porn can ONLY be used by people who are turned on by feet. Gay porn can ONLY be used by people who want to fuck men...


....And "Loli" porn can ONLY be used by people who get physiologically aroused by the idea of fucking children..


(And there is absolutely zero comparison to movies or video games, in this fact- It's common for horror movie fans to sometimes enjoy a comedy or romance film. Or for strategy game fans to occasionally appreciate a FPS, or driving game. But you can NEVER use SSBBW fart porn, unless you're actually turned on by 500lb chicks dropping their guts. Because porn preferences, and movie/game genres aren't the same thing)

[and you can deflect, and screech "SJW", or "woman!!" or whatever, all you like. But sorry, @cummytummies - It won't change the fact that you've outed being sexually aroused by children, and a subhuman degenerate who needs to be gassed, and/or castrated... preferably both, just to be sure...]

 

[Slap47]

Free helicopter ride for you

Oddly enough, extremist politics tends to have more child rape involved. One could make the case that it would be more fruitful to focus on that if we're interested in making thought crimes a thing.

Pinochet -> Enabled a child rape cult founded by an escaped Nazi called the Colony of Dignity.
Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
Francisco Franco -> Gave the children of his dead Republican enemies to elites in the Falangist Party.
Stalinism -> Stalin enabled Laventriy Beria to rape hundreds including children because he was a good secret police chief
Far-Right -> Most isolated anti-government New-Religious Movements tend to have a child rape component
Based Trad-Caths -> Church policy is to enable child rape.
Japanese Empire -> Women as young as 9 were made comfort women (state-sex slaves).
Jihadism -> Its literally in the book

 

[DaddyDickDown]

Oddly enough, extremist politics tends to have more child rape involved. One could make the case that it would be more fruitful to focus on that if we're interested in making thought crimes a thing.

Pinochet -> Enabled a child rape cult founded by an escaped Nazi called the Colony of Dignity.
Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
Francisco Franco -> Gave the children of his dead Republican enemies to elites in the Falangist Party.
Stalinism -> Stalin enabled Laventriy Beria to rape hundreds including children because he was a good secret police chief
Far-Right -> Most isolated anti-government New-Religious Movements tend to have a child rape component
Based Trad-Caths -> Church policy is to enable child rape.
Japanese Empire -> Women as young as 9 were made comfort women (state-sex slaves).
Jihadism -> Its literally in the book

That’s because not everyone that had a ticket got to go, moneygrip.

 

[SPARKLETWAT]

Loli is fucking weird and gross but not the same as fapping at csem photos and videos. My experience with Loli is seeing dudebros spam them in replies to stuff and I don’t get the appeal of them.

maybe I’m jaded but sometimes I take care of kids in my ER after they got raped by an adult where they have trauma to their private areas, so seeing drawings doesn’t faze me. A real kid getting hurt though and I cry every time.

Child molesters are pieces of shit and I can’t repeat the shit I saw because I will rage.

 

[Groon]

I approve lolicon because it's a good tool to seek freak perverts.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Why is this thread still going?

 

[Gimmick Account]

Why is this thread still going?

Keep going, for I am close.

 

[Bandicam Watermark]

If someone wants to fuck real children, they need to get help. If someone get sexually aroused for realistic ideas of children in art, they are concerning and I think they should absolutely get questioned. If they are into some hentai with younger-looking or clearly underaged characters, they are still a degenerate and depending on their behavior they are either just gross or a danger to children. I do not assume that they would want to fuck real children, but its not hard to imagine that they'll go off the rails and start that desire. Obviously, any proof someone is into real physical children should be reported to law officials in their area, trying to get them off online by canceling or reporting only allows them to roam free in society, and they can go off and harm children privately. If they're just into a aesthetic, a consensual fantasy (not with real children, think ddlg for example), or its due to trauma, just please do everyone a favor and not go out and fuck children physically. You could make a picture consent, but you cant make a child consent. Have self control of yourself, recognize what you can and cannot do, and let others not be around you if it disturbs them.

That last sentence is my philosophy on anyone with fetishes, kinks, etc; I rarely care if you're into some weird furry shit, noncon/dubcon, whatever diapers, vore, or inflation the DeviantArt crowd is into, and yes I dont care if you're into lolis. I only care if you cannot discern what fiction and reality is, you are super perverted and just constantly throw your kink/fetish into every sentence, or in the extreme cases you've gone out and done some degenerate shit physically.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Why?

 

[Solar Eclipse Paradox]

The topic is way too convoluted. Sometimes people would create a loli looking character and try to pass it off as something that is older than America itself. For example this girl right here. Doesn't make it any more moral though.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Oddly enough, extremist politics tends to have more child rape involved. One could make the case that it would be more fruitful to focus on that if we're interested in making thought crimes a thing.

Pinochet -> Enabled a child rape cult founded by an escaped Nazi called the Colony of Dignity.
Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
Francisco Franco -> Gave the children of his dead Republican enemies to elites in the Falangist Party.
Stalinism -> Stalin enabled Laventriy Beria to rape hundreds including children because he was a good secret police chief
Far-Right -> Most isolated anti-government New-Religious Movements tend to have a child rape component
Based Trad-Caths -> Church policy is to enable child rape.
Japanese Empire -> Women as young as 9 were made comfort women (state-sex slaves).
Jihadism -> Its literally in the book

I either don't know about the others or don't disagree, but I'll call out four of those.
>Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
The "Night of Long Knives" was basically just the NSDAP cleaning all of the filth out of the party. The entire intention of it was to purge people like @BoxerShorts47 from the party, and I don't really see anything wrong with that.
>Far-Right -> Most isolated anti-government New-Religious Movements tend to have a child rape component
Most of those groups are run by feds. They deliberately recruit crazies, degenerates, drug addicts, edgy school shooter types, etc as a matter of practice. That's why you see so many other far-right people shitting on them. People used to think this was an outlandish claim, but since the glowies have started doing this to mainstream political groups, and thus have done so more publically, it's not really deniable anymore.
>Based Trad-Caths -> Church policy is to enable child rape.
Church corruption, mainly relating to that was what kind of started the whole originalist Catholic movement. The Catholics that fought against it were largely pushed out of their own churches. So in reality, the extremist, in this case, were harshly against pedophilia and the moderates at the very least turned a blind eye to it. If the hardliners were to take back over the church, there's a good chance that a fair number of priests would be burned as heretics.
>Jihadism -> Its literally in the book
This is a massive mixed bag since groups like the Taliban are executing people for this en masse right now. Additionally, all evidence suggests that what the Taliban has said about the US supporting pedophilia points to the claim being true. They're not having problems with rapes and pedophiles in Afghanistan right now, but we are absolutely having problems with it in places that are currently housing the Afghans we pulled out of the country.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

I either don't know about the others or don't disagree, but I'll call out four of those.
>Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
The "Night of Long Knives" was basically just the NSDAP cleaning all of the filth out of the party. The entire intention of it was to purge people like @BoxerShorts47 from the party, and I don't really see anything wrong with that.

No. It was Hitler consolidating power just like Stalin's purges.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

No. It was Hitler consolidating power just like Stalin's purges.

Exactly. Keep in mind, the Nazis kept complete and utter pervert degenerates like Oskar Dirlewanger on their payroll long after the Night of Long Knives, and the Dirlewanger Brigade is still infamous to this day for their depravity.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

But you can NEVER use SSBBW fart porn, unless you're actually turned on by 500lb chicks dropping their guts. Because porn preferences, and movie/game genres aren't the same thing)

aren't we all just Null alts using the site for the Deathfats subforum.


but yeah if it's specifically children of any kind, i'm all for happy homicidal accidents.

it's one thing to get someone conditioned to like SSBBW porn or amputee porn, but doing anything that even remotely violates the innocence of children falls under social taboo. It's why we all joke, in minecraft, about minecrafting lolicons/shotacons.

 

[Vinluv Handesbukia]

 

[Nickolas Gurr]

Grey area between normality and pedophilia, while it won't instantly makes you a pedo, this is fucked up and a red flag. Regardless what "just let them masturbate to so they won't touch actual kids" crowd says, people with actual pedophilic inclinations rarely stay in this grey area, they quickly realize that they are attracted to actual kids, not just the drawn ones.

Much in the way Doom and Mortal Kombat proliferate the fantasy of killing people with chainsaws, rocket launchers and uppercuts, causing inherently violent people to be more likely to commit heinous acts of mutilation and dismemberment when they lose control.

Tell someone that you like rewatching Mortal Kombat executions over and over because it makes you feel good. Or that you only play gory games because you like seeing people dismembered. People definitely won't think that this is normal.

 

[draggs]

Much in the way Doom and Mortal Kombat proliferate the fantasy of killing people with chainsaws, rocket launchers and uppercuts, causing inherently violent people to be more likely to commit heinous acts of mutilation and dismemberment when they lose control.

If you're jerking off to clips of Mortal Kombat fatalities and Doom yeah there's something fucked up in your head and watching those clips isn't doing you or anyone else any good. Pedos jerk off to drawn CP. It doesn't do them or anyone else any good. It's still indulging in the fantasy and pedo fantasies shouldn't be indulged in any way.

 

[Nickolas Gurr]

The "Night of Long Knives" was basically just the NSDAP cleaning all of the filth out of the party.

No. It was Hitler consolidating power just like Stalin's purges.

While I agree that some people that were killed that day were the filth of the party, you are still wrong. It was a consolidation of power, an elimination of radical opposition that would've definitely rose up when realized that Hitler is more moderate than he seemed to be. So yes, closer to Stalin's purges.

Sincerely, the only straight Strasserist on planet (though I'm actually somewhere in between factions, a centrist, if you will).

Most of those groups are run by feds. They deliberately recruit crazies, degenerates, drug addicts, edgy school shooter types, etc as a matter of practice

While this is true, still, the fed accusation is overused to the point when it lost it's meaning. People look at any bad or overtly extremist people on the far-right, and scream "He is not one of us! He is a fed!", and now any call for radical action is called "fedposting", and the original meaning of the term was almost forgotten.
If you were never called a federal agent in a political community, you are doing something wrong (yes, ironic coming from someone with Manson on his profile pic).

Oddly enough, extremist politics tends to have more child rape involved. One could make the case that it would be more fruitful to focus on that if we're interested in making thought crimes a thing.

Brown Shirts -> During the Night of Long Knives Ernst Rohm was captured having sex with young boys
Francisco Franco -> Gave the children of his dead Republican enemies to elites in the Falangist Party.
Stalinism -> Stalin enabled Laventriy Beria to rape hundreds including children because he was a good secret police chief
Based Trad-Caths -> Church policy is to enable child rape.

Rohm was purged from the party. And the story about having sex with boys seems to be a bullshit spread by his enemies, not enough proofs. And if it happened, the Nazis would've used it against him.
The stories about Franco seems to be a bullshit too, I heard if several times and every time I asked for proofs the opponent just disappeared.
Stories about Beria being a mass pedophile rapist is bullshit too. The stories about rapes even happening come from his political enemies, and are often speculated to be fabricated, but even if he actually raped these women, there is no proofs of him raping children or of him raping HUNDREDS.
True Trad Caths are fighting against pedophilia in the church, lmao. It isn't their fault that the pedophiles infiltrate their parishes too. Nobody talks about progressive priest committing pedophilia for some reason.

 

[SSj_Ness]

Tell someone that you like rewatching Mortal Kombat executions over and over because it makes you feel good. Or that you only play gory games because you like seeing people dismembered. People definitely won't think that this is normal.

I don't agree that there's something wrong with a person for liking excessive violence; I DO like seeing virtual people dismembered (and tortured, and destroyed, etc).

I'm not a lunatic just because I like torturing and/or mutilating NPCs in video games. I can distinguish between reality and fantasy, and while I do question the morality of fictional violence I don't think it at all correlates with actual violence. Maybe it can encourage people who already have violent thoughts or tendencies, especially young or mentally ill people, but I have no interest in committing actual atrocities in real life.

To me, one of the best parts of Skyrim was racking up my kill count in the most violent ways. Beheading people was a blast, as was building corpse piles. I was disappointed I couldn't kill the kid NPC kids, too.

MGS2 let you torture enemies. There wasn't much variety in how to do so, but it was among my favorite features. I was hoping it'd be expanded in MGS3, but they really didn't change much aside from adding a more useful interrogation element.

Even in less realistic games such as Soulcalibur, after I win I attack my defeated enemy as much as possible. It's just fun to fuck (virtual) people up.

Then there's suicide, too. I'm not [strike]that[/strike] suicidal because I kill myself in video games. I like to see the different death screens and check out the physics as I hurl myself off a cliff or something.

Anyway, this isn't in defense of anything, just disagreement specifically with what you said pertaining to violence. I don't care if people won't think what I play or how I play is normal, I play games how I want.

Now, as to the porn thing, maybe there's an inherent difference between depictions of sex and violence in media. Just because it's normal to enjoy killing, torture, and suicide in games doesn't mean abnormal sex media is normal. Maybe some people who indulge in rape fantasy or underage cartoon porn do want to act those things out in reality with real victims, I just don't know. Probably better safe than sorry though.

With fiction, text or cartoon specifically, it's probably technically harmless since it's just words in a page or ink on paper, nobody is actually being violated. It's still a sick person though and I wouldn't want someone deep into rape fantasies anywhere around my family, just to be safe.

Tldr: Fictional violence is fine, some degenerate sexual fiction might be harmless in itself but probably indicates an unwell person. There's probably an inherent difference between sex & violence which makes one okay to fantasize about but not the other.

 

[Czechem Republic]

Nobody cares what kind of drawn artwork you pull your pud to. If you care, fuck off and mind your own business.

Child molesters get the bullet. People trying to normalize pedophilia get the bullet. In minecraft.

Said it before and i'll say it again; there is a difference between being a degenerate in the privacy of your own home or with your degenerate friends, and advocating degeneracy.