Is grooming ever alright? - how the fuck was this left alone when it was first posted

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Can grooming turn into a healthy relationship?

  • Yes, completely fine if it's legal and otherwise a good relationship and a good life

    Votes: 4 5.0%
  • Sort of, it's creepy but the "victim" can be genuinely happy

    Votes: 10 12.5%
  • No, any happiness is a form of Stockholm Syndrome or something similar

    Votes: 66 82.5%

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pedoguyguykrai

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Dudes dont care about how much money you make and your children will turn to shit if you're not raising them personally, homeschooling if you can, cooking nutritious food, reading, activities.
women are naturally suited to this housework, "building a nest" while men want to get away for a bit, explore, hunt, strike the earth and come back to a warm happy home. if you are not interested in this then you aren't going to have a really healthy family dynamic. you are just fighting nature, between you and your husband, and your children. there's all sorts of data showing kids from broken homes failing and under-performing compared to the more standard stay at home wife scenario.

>because in my younger years the only men interested in me was interested in my youthful looks
They are not only attracted to your looks but your personality too. you were more bubbly, less jaded, had less bad experiences with men.
Now say that the nicest guy in the world who would never hurt a fly, volunteers at dog shelters, has similar taste in music. Hit on you while there was a 10 year age difference, you would be a fool to not become romantically involved with them, married, and start a family.
And they would be a fool to want to invest their future and success in some crummy harlot who had been stretched out and thought abortions were an acceptable solution to deal with their poor life decisions.
Hey guess what my mom was a trad wife no job, took care of the house, made dinner, and was very young when she married my dad, I was born before the marriage to another man, but she bore my dad 2 more kids, and she did everything right in terms of being a good house wife and mom, and my dad still turned out to be a degenerate troon and cut an left after her kidneys started to fail, in poverty, ssi can only go so far, to die painfully, and leaving me with the bulk of the work. so excuse me if I prefer to have my own earning capital before entering an arrangement such as marriage. men can cut their losses and if your house wife and haven't worked in years and your husband leaves you, your virtually fucked. Also with the current stagflation were going through is it even fucking realistic for a middle class family to have a family subsist off of one income?
 

Johan Schmidt

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Hey guess what my mom was a trad wife no job, took care of the house, made dinner, and was very young when she married my dad, I was born before the marriage to another man, but she bore my dad 2 more kids, and she did everything right in terms of being a good house wife and mom, and my dad still turned out to be a degenerate troon and cut an left after her kidneys started to fail, in poverty, ssi can only go so far, to die painfully, and leaving me with the bulk of the work. so excuse me if I prefer to have my own earning capital before entering an arrangement such as marriage. men can cut their losses and if your house wife and haven't worked in years and your husband leaves you, your virtually fucked. Also with the current stagflation were going through is it even fucking realistic for a middle class family to have a family subsist off of one income?
The 'trad wife' thing has always been a middle class fantasy. It's massively unrealistic at this juncture, and has been for most people, for a while.

Not just monetarily, but also socially, the 'trad wife' does in fact need a 'trad man'. You need to be able to be the 1950's man if you want your 1950's wife. Most men aren't like that in the slightest now. Nostalgia is fun, but like wanking it's just sad when you do it too much.
 

Alessonincrippliningdepre

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"Grooming" doesn't even have to involve a minor. The story you tell isn't inherently alarming because it is a 30yo and a 20yo although ten years is a big gap in that case especially if the 20yo is still in college/dependant on parents (10yrs could be fine if the parties are significantly older than this though.) It's a question of not just maturity but life situation, creeping on someone who doesn't even pay bills yet is definitely creeping every time.
So i can't hit on senor citizens?

nigga its not feminist to tell someone to date their own age, or as close to that as possible, simply on the grounds that means both parties have a higher chance of being treated equally, we're past the whole marriage is a joining of families, property, and as early on because of short life expectancy. Its the same if older male/ younger female, for vice versa situations.

theres no other logical point other than the risk of fathering retards, but even then, its some what of a risk and not a high risk, and you can always abort and try again. Love marriages are relatively a newer modern aspect, and depend on combability, instead of property assets, and value, and because its the current ideal most people strive for, then combability can help build a foundation towards a healthy long lasting relation ship.

Two different generations marrying in can mean fewer chances of compability and the risk of an unhealthy dynamic

. its part of the reason why, at 27 I struggle to even find someone to marry, because in my younger years the only men interested in me was interested in my youthful looks, and bust size, and essentially were old enough to be my dad, or grandfather. the problem is I have more than enough earning capital, and no desire to fill a void for a father figure, in the sense of dating an older man, and run the risk of having that man dictate my life to how he sees fit.

when people want to marry, they ideally want someone to not only provide for any offspring, but to love and respect them as an equal partner, and in some instances with an older party and younger party being together means that the respect can turn unequal. Its just human nature, we gravitate towards people that make us feel comfortable and relate too, and the only ones I've known who legit date men with substainal age gaps, are those who have severe daddy issues and haven't gotten over them. We base are idea of relationships with our parents, and part of not having a dad for most of your life is you seek to fill that void else where in unhealthy means. I only didn;t have a dad in my teen years because he fucked off to be a troon on his dying wife, and have learned that men who are over anal about control in the household, can and will fuck off when times get tough. So as a result I abhor significant age gap relationships, because look at my parents, only ten years apart, and he still ran like a boy when times got tough, and left me to be the only care taker of my mom who was young and beautiful and when she met him, and haggard and bitter in poverty up to her death.

Trad marriages where the man is the sole provider and the woman is the housekeeper, and traditional gender roles and values can fail and its not femenist propaganda to say it. The answer isn't to dismiss criticism of significant age gap relationships, as MUH FEMINISM, but to understand human nature. It's human nature to want to fuck procreate acquire stuff and pass it on to the next generation, that's how humans have been since the dawn of time, but its human nature to love and want to love as well, and respect each other, even Neanderthals understood that emotional complexity. A relationship where the party has an upper hand in terms of age and experience, isn't one conducive to generating a healthy relationship, it can, in rare instances, but its exploitive, and normal people wouldn't seek to exploit others.
So all of this is you just saying you don't want to date older man
 

Shadfan666xxx000

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It's not right but "all's fair in love and war". Having a younger partner is actually pretty well documented to increase a couple's happiness for a while. I don't want to see a 13 year old getting creeped on by an adult but a 16+ partner is pretty well accepted throughout the western world and age gaps are nothing unusual even in an 18+ context.
 

Spicboyskafan

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no nigga tf
look dude I know looking for a homely submissive woman is near impossible for guys in their 20s to 30s but that's not an excuse to creep on any girl 18, never
 

mr.moon1488

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Holy shit, I know I'm late but what in the ever-loving fuck? Whoever first said there are no stupid questions is a massive faggot.
 
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