Is Jace more "likeable" then other Cows? -

Bork Laser

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After talking in chat the other day, someone said we "idolized" Jace and while I don't think that's true, I think we do treat him differently then other Lolcows. It's hard to explain but unlike Chris, TGK and Moleman that malice for Jace doesn't seem to exist or is very low. Compared to Chris, those who wanna A-Log Jace are actually pretty few in number. I hardly ever see it. We do mock him and we mock him a lot but it seems he has this Cult of Personality that other Lolcows lack. We don't seem to hate Jace as much as we are just drawn in by his utter insanity. Let me explain the reasons why I think we may, and I'm using the term loosely here, "idolize" Jace.

1. Jace as a Lolcow is unique. He is missing one trait that sets him apart from Chris, TGK and almost any Lolcow you can find in the general board. He doesn't sexualize everything. Besides from making Soap a girl in The Sims 3, Jace lacks the rapist/stalker/pedo traits that are so prevalent in many of cows. He doesn't draw fucked up pictures of people he wants to fuck, he doesn't randomly tickle small children, and he doesn't post tentacle rape comics. Jace entirely lacks that or keeps it well hidden. And for some reason that makes him likeable in a sense.

He doesn't have that creepy sexual pervert vibe that instantly makes people hate you. He's much more concerned about the Muslims taking down a Mcdonalds then getting his dick wet. He's fucked up no doubt but not fucked up sexually.

2. Jace always gets whats coming to him. Unlike Chris who always manged to weasel his way out of shit and avoid responsibility and we'd have to wait a long time for something to bite him in the ass, Jace gets hit almost immediately. Whether it's being gag ordered, drinking Sped Dew or getting locked down by Terrormom, Jace always gets his in the end. Jace is the master at utterly screwing himself over and we eat that shit up. Instead of getting frustrated that he never suffers repercussions at his actions, we laugh our asses off because it is constantly happening. And it only makes him crazier so its even better.

3. We see a little bit of Jace in us. I truly believe we do, whether we want to acknowledge it or not. Some people have said they can see themselves in Chris and it scares the shit out of them. But I believe more people see themselves in Jace. Don't believe me? Read this thread. http://cwckiforums.com/threads/nayzak-islamic-anime-propaganda-art.4918/

Some people are joking to mock Jace but in the first few pages people generally do seem to have a problem with Muslims. Now I'm not gonna say everyone is a racist here but I feel Jace sometimes say things a little part of us believes but we never say because we know its wrong and not socially correct. Some of us may not even know it consciously and its draws us in.

4. Jace is always creating content and can appeal to a wider range of people. Chris would always have a flux in the stuff he'd put out. Some months it be a constant stream of funny shit, other times it be small little bursts. Even then its sometimes hard to sit through a video with Chris talking about nonsense, even the calls that are leaked can be painful to hear him drone on and on, waiting for that little nugget to drop.

With Jace, he is constantly dropping something funny, whether it be a stream, his vlogs, or even on twitter. And this is an everyday thing. Jace is always saying something so stupid, so insane, its like a never ending train wreck or a tv show that's so bad, its funny. He is constantly up to something and it never leaves us with a dull moment and always something to laugh and talk about.

5. Jace always leaves us wanting more and we never want him to stop. Most Cows we wish would stop posting on the internet. Some cows we hope get arrested before they pedofork a kid. Other Cows we know more about then we care to know. But we never want Jace to go away. Jace is like that TV show we are hooked on, that we can't wait till next week to see what happens, much less want the show to end. We want to see more and more his wacky adventures and his insane ramblings. We want to see how he freaks out at a video game or a current event. And we don't want this ride to ever end.

And that is why I believe it makes Jace the most likeable cow on this board and why we treat him a little differently. He is constantly making us laugh so its hard to feel any legitimate anger at him. We quote him like kids quote Family Guy in middle school. He's just so damn entertaining and fun, that we can't hate him. Only wake up everyday, eagerly awaiting the next stupid thing he does.
 
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BT 075

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I agree. There's an almost childlike innocense in Jace at times. I have a nine year old cousin who is obsessed with many of the same things; being cool, being 'badass', fighting and being seen as a hero. Somewhere deep inside Jace is still a kid who wants to go on great big epic adventures and have fun with his pals. He wants to laugh and hang out and for all things to "be chill".

He has no filter, he has no shame and he is painfully honest. He is, simply put, a very authentic human being.
 

cluelessly

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Agreeing also. I do like Jace as a person in a weird way. I'll admit it's sometimes hard to stomach some of his views, but even then I can't get mad at him, he's too much of a big kid to get mad at. There's a likeable quality to him, and to me he seems like someone who would be alright to hang out with every now and then as long as he's on his meds.

I've known people like Jace, especially during my teenage years, and I think for me personally that has something to do with it too. I've known a lot of people who had some sketchy views and weird behaviours but they were so harmless and otherwise pretty amusing and "chill", so it was fun to have them around.

And as Satan said, he's very honest about things like his intentions, goals and actions. Most of the time if he doesn't want to talk about something, rather than lie he simply says he won't talk about it. There's exceptions to this of course but most of the time he has no shame in just owning up to what's really going on.

He also puts a lot of effort into things like his streams, he really wants friends and to not feel alone, which is something we can all relate to. I can't remember when but during one stream he shut down the stream but everyone in chat kept begging him to "finish the fight for his fans" and he came back because of that. And there have been a few instances where he's really not wanted to stream or to play a particular game but has done so anyway because of the audience. If it was CWC or TGK they'd quit the moment things got stressful, Jace kept on trucking with the streams even with dicks being shown to him and the amount of criticism he gets in the stream chat.

You're definitely right there are those of us who have a soft spot for Jace.
 

Lou

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I think the key to it all is that he's just extremely entertaining. Whether he realizes it or not he just has a natural way of being incredibly funny and engaging for long periods of time. I mean, there's no one else I can think of who I would sit down once a week and watch a 5+ hour livestream. There's also a certain naivete to Jace that I think makes some of his actions more excusable, not to mention he's mentally ill. He's just a funny, weird, interesting dude.

Jace is the only lolcow I can think of who I would hang out with and smoke some we- I mean "tobacco".
 

Andrew Noel Schaefer

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We have a very clear cut rule to stop any a-loggery in its tracks: Stop gettting mad about Jace!

So with that said, I will not say that Jace is a likeable person. But he is incredibly endearing. Much like a real-life Eric Cartman from South Park.

I'd get into this more, actually, but I dont want to be getting mad about Jace, you see.
 

General Juicer

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I find it kind of weird that there needs to be a 'stop getting mad about Jace' rule, since anger is one of the things he least inspires in me even when he's being a racist, self-absorbed ITG. Maybe it just permanently colored my perceptions, but, one of the first threads I read about Jace was him freaking out over Bad Things Happening this 9/11. That gave me the feels like you wouldn't believe.
 

TrippinKahlua

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We're all entitled to our own opinions, but Jace just doesn't quite do it for me enough to make me want to follow his actions every day. I honestly enjoy things better when its both him and Tyce, but whether or not those two are friends seems to change every single month.
 

DeagleDad420

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Very good writeup OP. This is also one of the reasons I legitimately don't believe Jace has autism (at least in the strictly psychiatric sense of the word) because he can be pretty gregarious as a person and he's a damn good performer. He is really good at holding people's attention on streams and it's hard not to be taken in by his sperg charm. I think a lot of this is unintentional, but it's definitely a character trait he has, and I also think it explains why he still manages to have friends that are so diverse (Kyle, Tyce, etc) despite being a complete lunatic who is a danger to everyone around him. I mean really, if I was Kyle, I wouldn't have him over my house for a week - but then again, Jace is apparently a good friend to Kyle and that's enough for the both of them.

I think it also goes to explain a little bit of why he feels so enamoured with building this "Outer Haven" sort of thing with Deagle Nation. He really enjoys talking to his fans and shit and building this bizarre little racist militia community because he gets along with people naturally. It's one of his very few skills that isn't completely overshadowed by his fuckups.

We have a very clear cut rule to stop any a-loggery in its tracks: Stop gettting mad about Jace!

So with that said, I will not say that Jace is a likeable person. But he is incredibly endearing. Much like a real-life Eric Cartman from South Park.

I'd get into this more, actually, but I dont want to be getting mad about Jace, you see.
That's not really what the rule is about, what you're talking about is more A-Logging in general.

I find it kind of weird that there needs to be a 'stop getting mad about Jace' rule, since anger is one of the things he least inspires in me even when he's being a racist, self-absorbed ITG.
Note that it's not really getting mad AT him as much as getting mad ABOUT him... basically, the rule is there to dissuade people from having sperg fits yelling about how "GAMERFOOD RUINED IT" every time he gets trolled, "TYCE RUINED IT" every time Tyce appears, or "X RUINED IT" anytime anything happens. The problem with Jace is people somehow think they're entitled to him acting the exact way they want him to act at all times and if he doesn't do that then it's a fucking outrage and it must be blamed on someone immediately.

The point of the rule was to stop that kind of talk becuase it's really autistic, it promotes pointless infighting and makes us look like children. It wasn't particularly about getting mad at Jace himself - that's covered under A-Logging. Really I think the word "ruined it" needs to be wordfiltered in the Jace forums, but that's another topic.
 

KingofManga420

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I'm going to agree with Woody and say he's not likable, but he's incredibly endearing. I love his childlike innocence and his ability to always seem like he's having fun whether its sweet parkour vids or explaining to us how he'll shove soap up his asshole to wipe away some deep shit. I found Chill Zone really odd when it happened, not because it was weird and out of character for him, but that was kinda the moment I realized that I still found some weird sort of charm from this bigoted schizo. I mean he just sat around and wanted to spend more time with us so he thought he should eat some cereal on stream and answer some questions about Jenk.

He comes off as pretty tragic to me too, because out of any of the bigger cows, I really do think Jace could have ended up as a completely normal, if schizophrenic, person is he had the support. He did not, so here we are.
 

DeagleDad420

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I'm going to agree with Woody and say he's not likable, but he's incredibly endearing.
Yea this. One thing is I think, even though it may not EXCUSE his actions, it's really hard not to feel sympathy and understanding for him when you know his backstory and life situation. The Sims 3 livestreams were an absolute bundle of feels especially the final one. Chris, Molay, etc, were ALWAYS fucked up people, and they WILL always be fucked up people no matter what. Jace is a victim of circumstance. That's REALLY unique among lolcows because for Jace to sink as low as he is right now, the circumstances must be pretty fucking extreme. And they are. So I give him a bit of slack when he does ridiculous shit, because I know at least part of it is really not his fault. He's still definitely a narcissistic, self-obsessed asshole, and he's still definitely accountable for the shit he does, but honestly I don't feel much malice towards him even for that because like others have said, he always faces pretty harsh consequences for his nature.
 

Grand Number of Pounds

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Jace is OK at times when he's chill and shows a bit of introspection. I think it was in his first vlogtember video when he was being honest about not being happy with his life, it was really easy to feel sorry for him and hope he'd do something positive with his life. Then again, we all knew he was going to be going back to his old ways shortly after he stopped feeling so down.

I'm not angry at him, and I wouldn't want to meet him IRL. I agree that he is endearing, he's unique and while I don't want him to get into any serious trouble, I also know he isn't going to improve at all.

tl;dr - he can be OK at times and it's easy to feel sorry for him at times, but you know he's never going to ever really improve
 

Xarpho

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Well, Jace lacks the creepy sexual stuff about other 'cows, and I think that's a big improvement. Chris would be a lot more endearing (still a lousy and gross person) if he wasn't (in videos, at least) drinking his own bodily fluids, using sex dolls, and describing how he would have sex with someone. It's the little things that made Chris tip from the "lovable loser" to the "creepy old perv" side of the scale.
 

Morbid Boredom

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I mentioned this in chat and to people I know (in person!): I'd actually like to play video games with Jace for a day. Dude seems really lonely.

What I do worry about is that Jace's flaws are worse than we realize, or that his flaws will metastasize and become even worse.
 

CatParty

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I mentioned this in chat and to people I know (in person!): I'd actually like to play video games with Jace for a day. Dude seems really lonely.

What I do worry about is that Jace's flaws are worse than we realize, or that his flaws will metastasize and become even worse.


He's a lolcow. we're at the tip of the iceberg. It's all downhill from here.
 

AnchuentProphecy

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I think Jace is more likeable then other lolcows. He definitely is an entertaining and funny person even though sometimes it's for the wrong reasons. Hell if I was into Gary's mod or another online game he plays, I would totally love to play with him.

Also Jace has something else most other lolcows don't; you can feel sympathy or bad about his situation at times. You can't do that with most other lolcows like Nick Bate for example. Remember the end of that one sims stream where he kills his dad and ends crying press one? A lot of us felt concerned for him. I relate more to him because I had problems in past with schizophrenia which is what he is believed to be suffering from. I know how hard it can be to deal with that. If Jace started taking his medication regularly and matured a little he could be a great guy.
 

Andrew Noel Schaefer

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If Jace started taking his medication regularly and matured a little he could be a great guy.

Course, part of the problem is Gail. Yeah, grounding Jace on-the-spot seems like a good idea, but then you also take away his escapism which he kinda needs. On the reverse side you have Rob coming up with actually good ideas. Stuff like how Jace should do Longplays instead of Livestreams as this way the audiance cant dick him around.
 

KingofManga420

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I think Jace is more likeable then other lolcows. He definitely is an entertaining and funny person even though sometimes it's for the wrong reasons. Hell if I was into Gary's mod or another online game he plays, I would totally love to play with him.

Also Jace has something else most other lolcows don't; you can feel sympathy or bad about his situation at times. You can't do that with most other lolcows like Nick Bate for example. Remember the end of that one sims stream where he kills his dad and ends crying press one? A lot of us felt concerned for him. I relate more to him because I had problems in past with schizophrenia which is what he is believed to be suffering from. I know how hard it can be to deal with that. If Jace started taking his medication regularly and matured a little he could be a great guy.
I think a little bit more intense than that was the part where he broke down in 19 and when the trolls tried to talk to him after all that JACE WAKE UP shit, He responded pretty lucidly, "You don't fucking care about me, you just wanna pretend you care about me and the second you see I'm ok you'll just go right back to laughing at me." while loudly crying. Now I've never been the type to go on and say shit like that to him, but it still kinda... touched me I guess. It was sad.
 

Pikonic

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Call me a dick but I like Jace better than Chris, Pixyteri, or TJ because Jace has a shot at being redeemed and actually being a functional human being. Listen to him talk about his brother and that one video where his brother suggested he should look into let's plays...he's not gonna be the next president but he could make money and grow up a little.
All the stupid shit Jace does, he's 23 years old, Tyce is 17, they're just immature douchebags that still have a shot at being normal people.
 
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