Joe Swanson
Famed TV Cripple
Yes, now stop making shitty threads
Of course I don't think this started by accident. But what I'm saying is, the extremism has been ramping up ESPECIALLY in the past few weeks, much like cults do before they combust. There are undeniable similarities.How is it disorganized? You think this all happened by accident?
You're giving it too much power calling it a cult, when modern social Justice is literally just a Fad.
Every SJW powered phenomenon is just a dumb little fad because "Boomers just don't get it! Ughh!"
It also had many of the hallmarks of a long-forgotten KGB mind control experiment. Just sayin...
Might as well be after they killed God in the West. Something had to fill the void, no society can survive on the theories and will of corruptible men alone. Any nation that lives apart from their God, will crumble, the religious always have more will than the secular.
What's funny is someone actually called a lot of this shit all the way back into 1961.I feel like this is the sort of question that would make more sense to ask around 2014; Now it is just more noise.
I really liked your critique! I didn't quite think of it that way. The BITE model is most familiar to me which is why I used it. Do you know of any other models that might better represent what's going on currently?The BITE model isn’t even a good indicator. Many of the items, such as ones controlling how you dress and what you can and cannot say is pretty much what any company you work for does already. No matter what institution you join, there will be some standards given for behavior (since any institution requires standards in order to create group cohesion).
Additionally, most of the points are pretty subjective. Steve Hassan, the creator of the BITE model doesn’t even give a scale of reference to determine whether or not something is a cult (such as a 1-5 rating for each criteria, and what the least to most extreme would look like for each point listed). He also mentions that cult members can work steady 9-5 jobs and have outside hobbies and still not be able to control their thoughts. As far as I’m concerned, Steve Hassan needs to make the requirements more strict because if you have enough of a life outside of whatever group you’re a part of, it shouldn’t be considered a cult.
Finally, what is considered a cult to the average person is also really subjective. Christianity in its earliest days was deemed a cult until it got legalized under Constantine. I can understand why you think social justice is a cult, but if you’re going to make an analysis on it, don’t use the BITE model.
If you never have, I recommend reading up on the Great Awakenings, as well as the Prohibition movement. The True Believer by Eric Hoffman is also a great read for understanding the dynamics of mass movements. These things rise and fall organically, and are often encouraged or suppressed as benefits the powerful.I really liked your critique! I didn't quite think of it that way. The BITE model is most familiar to me which is why I used it. Do you know of any other models that might better represent what's going on currently?
Thank you for the recommendations!! I'm really excited to start reading them. I recall Prohibition; lately I've been focusing on Charles Manson but I completely forgot about those!If you never have, I recommend reading up on the Great Awakenings, as well as the Prohibition movement. The True Believer by Eric Hoffman is also a great read for understanding the dynamics of mass movements. These things rise and fall organically, and are often encouraged or suppressed as benefits the powerful.
It doesn't actually take that many people holding an extreme viewpoint to push it because most people will repeatedly split the difference to keep the peace or "compromise". The woke left does this all the time, but they're not the only ones. Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews, most people didn't support killing Jews, so they compromised by killing half the Jews.