Is pornography good or bad for society? - And why?

Is pornography good or bad for society?

  • All forms of Pornography are good for society, even pedo, beastality, necrophillia etc

    Votes: 4 2.6%
  • Most porn is good for society, except for really wack shit pedo, beastality, necrophilia etc

    Votes: 25 16.4%
  • Only some porn is good for society, and stuff like furry, ageplay, edgeplay and BDSM etc is not

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Porn is neither good nor bad for society overall

    Votes: 61 40.1%
  • Most porn is bad for society, and only the tamest kinds (softcore) should be ok

    Votes: 35 23.0%
  • All porn is evil and should be banned

    Votes: 24 15.8%

  • Total voters
    152

Thanksforpostingdude

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I struggle with that I confess.


As for porn, if I want to watch porn as in a video of people fucking, I like the stuff that presents real couples doing it, as opposed to paid performers, basically I think the more "reality" there is in porn the healthier it is to consume, the more it presents real passion, the more you see women having real orgasms with no "acting" involved and so on, the better is as opposed to carefully constructed artifice.

I also personally simply find that sexier and more of a turn on.

EDIT: For example I have this.... documentary from 2004 called "Orgasm: The Faces of Ecstasy" which is simply close ups of people's faces as they have real orgasms.

There's this one segment of this middle aged lady, not unattractive but definitely older, far from "porn star" material and it just shows her as her husband does... something to her (not sure what exactly, since it's not shown) and she just totally loses it as she cums.

That is way sexier to me than any number of "Brazzers" or whatever type crap.
In the same boat, and I think the bridge between the sexes and communication is growing larger.

I feel like the Brazzers type of stuff is made to be easier to jack off to, while the amateur stuff is better for analyzing. With amateur, it's more intimate, arousing, and interesting, but it's long. Brazzers type of stuff is 4K HD VR trailers where you can quickly get your nut and go (unless you want the whole film)
 
If you think availability and addiction are bad now, just wait until virtual reality becomes more mainstream and the technology becomes more advanced.

You are going to see a massive increase in sexual dysfunction by mere virtue of the fact that once people are able to live out their fantasies in virtual reality it's going to reinforce those fetishes and they will become the normal.

It won't just be a bunch of fur fags screwing each other on second life at that point, and God knows someone will make stuff about underage children, loli's, etc.

We've literally as a society opened up pandora's box, and it's going to have some major repercussions, in the same way that TV and then PC's have. (Different subject, but food availability, sedentary lifestyles, and increasing social isolation are causing massive issues with weight and mental health problems.)
 

Star Stuff

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About as bad as alcohol and I don't think we should ban either. The weird focus on it really hinges on moralfagging as you have to ignore all the actual, literal deaths directly tied to other vices on the same level. Naturally, I'm not so dense as to say we can only work on one thing at a time, but I struggle with the ardent belief that porn is evil when there's so much more we refuse to address.

Truly and really: Anything can be evil if our standard is addiction. There are people addicted to stamp collecting of all things. There is a point where personal responsibility should take the wheel and porn, in my opinion, is one of those points. Regardless of it's effects on this nebulous "society". The question itself is flawed, if you ask me, so no real answer can be reached.
 
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Lemmingwise

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If you think availability and addiction are bad now, just wait until virtual reality becomes more mainstream and the technology becomes more advanced.

You are going to see a massive increase in sexual dysfunction by mere virtue of the fact that once people are able to live out their fantasies in virtual reality it's going to reinforce those fetishes and they will become the normal.

It won't just be a bunch of fur fags screwing each other on second life at that point, and God knows someone will make stuff about underage children, loli's, etc.

We've literally as a society opened up pandora's box, and it's going to have some major repercussions, in the same way that TV and then PC's have. (Different subject, but food availability, sedentary lifestyles, and increasing social isolation are causing massive issues with weight and mental health problems.)
It's going to be pretty crazy when virtual reality crosses that market penetration border. There is part of me that believes it simply won't happen, that like google-glass it's too inhuman to receive broad acceptance. Then there's another part of me that thinks everybody will be forced into it one way or another until we're desensitized to it.


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You know what? Maybe the increase in erectile dysfunction is more than just overstimulation. I definitely think it's part of it, but I think there are other factors causing the increase too. Sperm counts are going down for decades. Because of the ubiquity of xeno-estrogens? More sedentary lifestyles? Obesity? Soy in drinks? A little of all of the above?
 

DocHoliday1977

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It's going to be pretty crazy when virtual reality crosses that market penetration border. There is part of me that believes it simply won't happen, that like google-glass it's too inhuman to receive broad acceptance. Then there's another part of me that thinks everybody will be forced into it one way or another until we're desensitized to it.


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You know what? Maybe the increase in erectile dysfunction is more than just overstimulation. I definitely think it's part of it, but I think there are other factors causing the increase too. Sperm counts are going down for decades. Because of the ubiquity of xeno-estrogens? More sedentary lifestyles? Obesity? Soy in drinks? A little of all of the above?
 

JosephStalin

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More and more people these days just use each other for pleasure, rampant sex with no commitment. This has made finding a nice "innocent" girl much harder than I think it used to be. I personally want to get married young and have lots of kids. Just like my parents did. But with the way things are looking, I am not sure that is even possible these days, and I personally believe porn has played a role in it.
Believe it's still possible to find the lady you want, will just take more effort.

Reaching back to my high school days, fifty years ago, there were definitely some girls who were "easy". You also had a huge number of girls get married right after graduation. They got married and had kids. Don't know if they had premarital sex.

One thing that can militate against marrying young and having a lot of kids isn't porn. It's economics. When I graduated from high school in 1972 it was possible to get a job right out of high school that would support a family on one salary. In the rural area where I lived, many of the people who got married right after high school lived on farms, so usually the bride moved to the husband's house and they'd live there until they could get their own place. The husband worked with his dad/brothers on the farm, which provided the livelihood for all. The bride would work with her mother-in-law, cooking, cleaning, working in the garden, canning, sometimes driving a tractor/truck, sometimes other farm chores, on top of having the kids. Brides would also work off the farm, ensuring a source of income independent of the farm.

It's much more expensive to raise a family properly these days, and it's a hell of a lot harder to find a job straight out of high school that will support a family on just the one salary. Very often both the husband and wife need to work. Life's just more complex than in 1972. A personal opinion....I consider it criminal to have more kids than you can afford to provide for at least adequately. Better to raise one or two well than to raise four or five in hardship. That's what I did, and made sure my production facilities were shut down at the appropriate time. Am not advocating I haven't done myself.
 
It's going to be pretty crazy when virtual reality crosses that market penetration border. There is part of me that believes it simply won't happen, that like google-glass it's too inhuman to receive broad acceptance. Then there's another part of me that thinks everybody will be forced into it one way or another until we're desensitized to it.


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You know what? Maybe the increase in erectile dysfunction is more than just overstimulation. I definitely think it's part of it, but I think there are other factors causing the increase too. Sperm counts are going down for decades. Because of the ubiquity of xeno-estrogens? More sedentary lifestyles? Obesity? Soy in drinks? A little of all of the above?
I seriously know a few people who has said if they could plug themselves in and check out they would. That sort of shit horrifies me, but I can see some people doing it. Porn or gaming and likely both are going to lead the way on this, and at some point it's going to have net negative effects, though hopefully there will be that salty portion of the population like me who think of this stuff as urban voodoo and eager adopters as lemmings.

I think the drop in male sperm counts realistically comes more from sedentary lifestyles than any other environmental factor. Sure xeno-estrogen in the water, and plastics aren't good for their second hand effects.

But if we look at the 1940's male generation where testosterone numbers peaked, and then started to actively shift down. There is a correlation that begins with television viewership, alongside a change in work life (office work) that contributes to its decline over time. And this is the generation that had smoking for your health, lead in household paints, that sort of thing.

Obesity is also a side effect of sedentary lifestyles, more than anything else, even poor dietary choices. Of course, the dietary choices helps, but the body is incredibly efficient when there is enough activity to burn off calories, we as a society don't partake in enough conscientious exercise/sport which is why the numbers have crept up steadily.

I also personally think that there is a correlation with people having less sex and the fact that we've got so much choice when it comes to entertainment, society at this point can effectively distract itself with other things that weren't available to any of the population even fifty years ago.
 

Marco Fucko

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Porn is weak pussy shit set up by faggots because some moralfags (probably women and/or priests) wanted to ban brothels.
Think of the simplicity and efficiency of just dropping by a whorehouse and busting a nut. Especially with modern tools like birth control and STD prevention pills.
 
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Otterly

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I don’t really have an issue with consenting adults getting off to anything

Where porn is a problem is where it affects real life negatively. I can think of a few main ways:

1. GPs see a LOT of young men who can’t get it up without porn, and it’s affecting their relationships in real life. Twenty something men who can’t get an erection without porn is kinda sad.

2. Kids seeing it too young on phones. I think that sets up weird expectations for them and isn’t gerribly healthy. Friends with teen girls tell me they’re under pressure to do quite extreme stuff early on. That shit is for adults who’ve been around the block a few times, not teens.

3. There have been a few cases recently in the Uk where women have been killed and the defence was ‘sex gone wrong, she liked it rough m’lud.’ I can’t see how a jury twenty years ago would have accepted that as a defence but now I see it a lot, and I think that’s because of how the window of what’s normal and acceptable has shifted. There was a really awful case in the uk (Natalie Donnelly) where she had horrendous injuries and the jury accepted it was just rough sex gone wrong and the bloke got a year or two in jail.

I dunno, it’s a difficult one. I don’t really care about what people get off on, but I do think there are issues with stuff spilling over into real life and with kids and phones.
 

UntimelyDhelmise

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I've seen it stated here multiple times that porn provides a "safe avenue" for deviants to vent their sexual frustrations and keep themselves away from doing the real thing, but the current environment is clearly stating otherwise with the explosion of pedophiles and furries running amok.

In theory just using porn should work as it satisfies the desire in the moment and then you can go on your merry way afterwards, and indeed that's how it does work for some people. But in many cases it doesn't work like that. It gives you the taste of forbidden fruit and leaves you wanting more. More frequent, more intense, more real, like a mental version of a regular drug.

What's worse, the internet not only provides instant easy access to whatever these deviants attach themselves to, but they also can network with others of the same ilk to both reinforce their twisted fetishes as normal in their minds ("If all these other people are into this it must be okay right?") and further influence others on the fringes to join their ranks and spread their presence everywhere.
 

LazarusOwenhart

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The existence of porn is fine but I do think it can give some people, particularly those who are already kinda stupid, an unreasonable image of sex. I've known people sabotage decent relationships because the woman isn't prepared to be smothered in baby oil, tied up and mouthfucked until she gags as standard. (Anyone replying with a 'huur durr women are things' comment is literally proving me right)
 
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