Is Robert Given too much Credit? -

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Christory101

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I know people on this board think highly of Robert Chandler, saying he was kind, knowledgable, and a man who despite his limitations tried to do what was best for Chris chan.

Yet is that a justifiable belief? Not to speak ill of the dead, but I believe he may not have been all he was cracked up to be.

It seems often that he treated Chrisian as a problem to be ignored unless he had to be. He never once checked in with Chris or asked him what he was even doing on the internet, yelling and hollering. He only did that if Chris' videos created a problem for him, namely the health department of Greene County seizing his house.

I know he was often courteous and friendly with the trolls calling 14BLC, yet that itself is not evidence of kindness. Many elderly people are lonely and enjoy speaking to other people, particularly teenagers and young adults. Im sure this is even more so if said elder is living with a chris chan and a snorlax!

Does anyone else agree with me?
 

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EzioCanLeapofFaith

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Yes, I agree with you OP.

In these boards Bob is regarded as great guy, which is fine everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

But to me, he shared many qualities with Barb, just listen to the Matthew Noble call.
He was homophobic and racist (though this point is debatable according to some, since it could be seen as either jokes or ways he tried to intimidate trolls)
He also started the conspiracy theories about the Greene County and about Megan and the Game Place.

The thing is that out of the two parents, Bob was better than Barb. At least he tried to get Chris out of the house by going to Church, and tried to get him to work, even though he seemed to have given up hope on him after. He was also very old when they had Chris, which is why I think he gave up easily on him and decided to ignore him.

However don't forget that it took two people to raise a self-centered manchild.
 

Himawari

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It's just that it doesn't take much to look like a fantastic person next to Barb.
 

Pac

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I think Robert has been elevated out of proportion by some. Yes, he did, in fact, have some good traits, but still, he was a bad influence for Chris.

A person can do wrong by omission to act as well as by their own actions. I think this applies to Robert.
 

MysticMisty

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EzioCanLeapofFaith said:
Yes, I agree with you OP.

In these boards Bob is regarded as great guy, which is fine everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

But to me, he shared many qualities with Barb, just listen to the Matthew Noble call.
He was homophobic and racist (though this point is debatable according to some, since it could be seen as either jokes or ways he tried to intimidate trolls)
He also started the conspiracy theories about the Greene County and about Megan and the Game Place.

The thing is that out of the two parents, Bob was better than Barb. At least he tried to get Chris out of the house by going to Church, and tried to get him to work, even though he seemed to have given up hope on him after. He was also very old when they had Chris, which is why I think he gave up easily on him and decided to ignore him.

However don't forget that it took two people to raise a self-centered manchild.

Himawari said:
It's just that it doesn't take much to look like a fantastic person next to Barb.
Both of these. Remember that while Barb was buying Chris Go-Bots as his bribery for speaking, Bob sued the Boy Scouts and Greene County for "discrimination" against Chris. And then dragged Chris to a different part of the state in order to continue to pretend that nothing (much) was wrong with him rather than admit that Chris is very much abnormal and get him treatment that would help become a relatively normal and functioning member of society.

Bob is just well liked around here because of how sociable he is in the Church Audio and on the Emily Date, for cutting down the internet, and allowing Chris to leave the house. Versus Barb who hoards and won't even allow Chris to have his own room any more, let alone leave the house.
 

Henry Bemis

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Crazy Pacer said:
He tried. He failed miserably, but he at least tried.

He tried and failed, and for all the wrong reasons. He was never concerned about Chris's well-being, but only how Chris reflected on him.
 

Hyperion

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Henry Bemis said:
Crazy Pacer said:
He tried. He failed miserably, but he at least tried.

He tried and failed, and for all the wrong reasons. He was never concerned about Chris's well-being, but only how Chris reflected on him.


It's the old game of Bob vs Barb. We've been discussing this ever since I was a newfag here, which has been... 4 years now?

Can we please just come to some sort of consensus?
 

Henry Bemis

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Crazy Pacer said:
Henry Bemis said:
Crazy Pacer said:
He tried. He failed miserably, but he at least tried.

He tried and failed, and for all the wrong reasons. He was never concerned about Chris's well-being, but only how Chris reflected on him.

It's the old game of Bob vs Barb. We've been discussing this ever since I was a newfag here, which has been... 4 years now?

Can we please just come to some sort of consensus?

One wasn't really better than the other so much as it was they were two different flavors of questionable parenting: Bob was a shrewd bully while Barb was a very loud nuisance.
 

DustyR

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There's not a day that goes by that the American Dream Dusty Rhodes doesn't look upon the stars and say a prayer in honor of the memory of Robert Chandler. That man gave his heart and soul to try and enrich the life of one deeply disturbed autistic creature. The fabled instigator of the :tugboat: , that old man had decades of wisdom and knowledge to draw upon. Bob was a very intelligent man, even holding patents. I think he tried and tried, struggled valiantly to make Chris noble, but eventually he saw the writing on the wall, that there was only so much he could do. He could keep going and persisting, but Chris obviously was never going to mature into the son Robert Chandler deserved. So he allowed him to inhabit a fantasy wold and be all kinds of bizarre. Bob knew that to try and challenge Chris would be useless; that he struggled to hold even a job at Wendy's. That said, I still view Chris is a fully functional adult man, who should not be cut much slack. With the right motivation, he could be more normal, but that motivation would most likely have to come from within Chris, and there was nothing Bob could do to get him going, not at his advanced age. I do think a parent could have motivated Chris in his formative years - to be more normal and lead a more fulfilling life - but it would need to be a truly extraordinary parent, which is few and far in between. Bob was probably a great parent, but great isn't enough when you are dealing with someone the caliber of CWC.
 

Hyperion

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Bob knew his offspring with Barbara wouldn't amount to shit. Remember that his son with another woman is an Eye Doctor and is apparently quite wealthy.

Bob at least ensured Chris would always have a roof over his head- really the only thing a Government Tugboat should allow. Get a part time job if you want to eat.

I say this as a Socialist. The safety net should be there if you need it, but you need to get off you ass and earn. Get a fucking job.
 

DrChristianTroy

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Eh. I'm in the "lesser of two evils" camp. He was a shit parent but he at least tried every now and then. The whole "he's a racist homophobe" thing can go either way.
 

Jewelsmakerguy

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I always thought Bob was a bad parent myself (what, with him having told Chris to not find a job and all). But as Himawari put it, it's not hard to look better compared to Barb.

Then again, he did try. Can't fault him for that, I guess.
 
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