Is Russia fucked? -

[Slap47]

"Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;who rules the World-Island commands the world."

-Halford Mackinder

The Russians are facing a demographics crisis, braindrain crisis and their economy is a mess based on natural gas. They are surrounded by rising economies and their western enemies are only 100km from St Petersberg. Under Putin they've been able to take back central Asia and halt the west in Belarus in Ukraine but as a result NATO has become autistically focused on them. They're an insanely resource rich country but their numerous problems make it hard for them to actually exploit that advantage.

Can Russia remain a Great Power? Or is it fucked? Or perhaps its already lost that status?

Most of their country still identifies as Russian so there isn't much chance of them splintering and they have a strong central govt so foreign influence is hardly a problem. The big issue seems to be economic collapse. Russia has negative population growth and its really bad. I don't see Russia becoming a puppet or divided up but I do see them becoming as irrelevant as Brazil is now. The US deep state seems to be really focused on destroying Russia but that seems to be more of a elite-manufactured morale panic to distract people and acquire more power.

 

[wylfım]

When the West collapses from liberalism the Motherland will be ready to birth the future.

 

[Some Manajerk]

Russia is really a sad story. WWI interrupted a period that, while it wasn't exactly peaceful, was still one where they were growing fairly quickly and naturally, much like America did in the previous century. Then the losses in WWI that the russian army wasn't able to sustain made for trouble and discontent at home, and then the communists came along and made things worse, with all the growth during thier reign being very much forced. Now that there's no USSR planning out growth everyone is sort of flailing blindly for direction and it sucks.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

The Russians are facing a demographics crisis, braindrain crisis and their economy is a mess based on natural gas. They are surrounded by rising economies and their western enemies are only 100km from St Petersberg. Under Putin they've been able to take back central Asia and halt the west in Belarus in Ukraine but as a result NATO has become autistically focused on them. They're an insanely resource rich country but their numerous problems make it hard for them to actually exploit that advantage.

This has always been the case. Before St Petersburg Moscow was 30km from the Polish border, iirc.

Russia waxes and wanes according to the wishes and will of the regime in power.

 

[Damn Near]

Russians aren't happy unless they're face down in the mud, they're doing fine

 

[Clop]

They looked at the western far-left and ran the other way. There's going to be some serious, bloody push back one day. Assuming that Russians give enough of a fuck to stop jumping off balconies drunk.

 

[millais]

Apres Putin, le deluge.

It will be a nasty time for them after there is no one around who can keep the oligarchs in line.

 

[PN 801]

Russia is fucked once Putin dies. Putin reigns as the de facto autocrat all but in name. His tight knit friends will struggle for power eventually. One thing Russians need desperately is an enlightened despot who is patriotic and yes Russian. Russian history is marred in absolute tragedy and misfortune but also resilience.

Russia will never be democratic and nor should they. Only a powerful autocrat can keep Russia together as one singular body or otherwise Russia will splinter into pieces.

 

[Niggernerd]

Surely this will be the end of drumpflestiltskin

 

[Ted_Breakfast]

Russia isn't even close to confronting the issue of transgender bathrooms, how can they expect to survive the next decade?

 

[{o}P II]

The boomers need to die off before Russia can be anything again
fuckers have an autistic meltdown if everything aint like the "good old days"

 

[DocHoliday1977]

Russia has had a volatile history, a volatile present, and will probably have a volatile future...That's their culture. Their people are used to it and have the cultural trauma to prove it. It would take centuries for them to even out their emotional economy to have a calmer plane of existence. I will say Putin does seem to keep them calm and collected for the most part...*until the next crisis*

Russia is fucked once Putin dies. Putin reigns as the de facto autocrat all but in name. His tight knit friends will struggle for power eventually. One thing Russians need desperately is an enlightened despot who is patriotic and yes Russian. Russian history is marred in absolute tragedy and misfortune but also resilience.

Russia will never be democratic and nor should they. Only a powerful autocrat can keep Russia together as one singular body or otherwise Russia will splinter into pieces.

Absolutely right. It's a leftover trait from the mongol horde wars to wrestle their freedom back. They rally behind a lifelong leader. Putin has increased their global negotiating power too. But tribal people are always tribal and conquering.

 

[nonvir_1984]

Who follows Putin? Unlike the Chinese, the Russians do not appear to have a plan of sccession - and the Oligarchs may well run amok...and on or other will try to get the military on side. But on one thing, Putin was quite right. Liberal Democracy is fucked and on the way out. He has helped, to be sure, but we have mostly done it to ourselves. The future is Chinese.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It seems to me that most of the west is preparing for different types of war with Russia, with Donald Trump being a 4 to 8 year speedbump in that plan.

I think this in particular because there is a otherwise inexplicable push to move away from using gas in western europe. Perhaps it's just economic warfare or preparing for the worst, but I think that's being optimistic.

 

[Terrorist]

Was it ever not tho?

I feel like Russians are the missing link, either between us and monkeys, or us and a superior breed of future human who will survive the apocalypse on hardbass and krokodil. 50/50 shot judging by dashcam videos.

 

[Safir]

Russia is fucked once Putin dies.

It's already fucked. Absolutely nothing will change except the face.

Russia isn't even close to confronting the issue of transgender bathrooms

It is! Troons can legally change sex, and, as a bonus, the anti-women laws have been proven to not apply to MtFs (it is currently unknown if anti-women laws apply to FtMs).

The boomers need to die off before Russia can be anything again
fuckers have an autistic meltdown if everything aint like the "good old days"

Wrong, wrong, and there's already a new generation of the same.

Unlike the Chinese, the Russians do not appear to have a plan of sccession

Like, my dude. ~bong rip~ Do you know who this is?
Yeah, (((they))) just shifted in a massively hated cuck when Putin needed a constitutional break.

 

[Friendly_AI]

Well, we'll see soon enough. There are still some regions left not too much fucked, hope it stays this way.

 

[JektheDumbass]

Russian history can be summed up by the phrase "and then, things got worse". It's always been fucked.

 

[DK 699]

You have some very valid points, but Russia has some things going for it. They do not have the same demographic problems that the west has and they are in a position to greatly benefit from climate change. If they get a strong leader after Putin, like what @OmniousAttributer described and are able to maintain their birthrates then they could still be a relevant power in the future.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

You have some very valid points, but Russia has some things going for it. They do not have the same demographic problems that the west has and they are in a position to greatly benefit from climate change. If they get a strong leader after Putin, like what @OmniousAttributer described and are able to maintain their birthrates then they could still be a relevant power in the future.

Russia is in an even bigger demographic crisis than Western Europe. They have a lower fertility rate than the European average, and a comparable median age, but lack the economic advantages to help cushion the blow. On top of this, they're also contending with a significant brain drain (which has actually increased rapidly since Putin began his 3rd term in office), the highest violent crime rate in Europe, and some of the worst public health outcomes in the developed world (4th highest alcohol consumption per capita in the world, one of the lowest overall life expectancies in Europe, the greatest discrepancy in life expectancy between men and women in the world, the most abortions per capita in the world, etc).

Putin is actually in a far more precarious position than a lot of Western observers seem to think. He's barely keeping it together at home, and he's surrounded by enemies abroad. With no one to credibly replace him, things in Russia could go from bad to worse very quickly.