Is the Roman Catholic Church a product of Babylonian mystery religion? - And are Nimrod and Semiramis the effective inventors of all "false" religions?

*looks at thread title and subtitle*

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • No

    Votes: 8 15.7%
  • Yes and No (respectively)

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • No and Yes (respectively)

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • *laughs in Babylonian*

    Votes: 25 49.0%
  • Nimrod is God the Father, Semiramis is the Holy Spirit, and Tammuz is Jesus the Son of God

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • EVERYTHING I'VE EVER KNOWN IS A LIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    Votes: 5 9.8%

  • Total voters
    51

Iwasamwillbe

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Upon researching Abrahamic religion, I was led to a certain book, called The Two Babylons, written by one Alexander Hislop. This book was very influential in several Protestant and Anti-Catholic circles, for basically "proving" that the the Roman Catholic Church is the reinvention of a mystery religion founded in Babylon (in the Tower of Babel) by the biblical character Nimrod and his (legendary) Lydian-Babylonian wife Semiramis, with addition of their son, Tammuz, in a Father-Mother-Son Trinity of deified rulers.

From the hyperdiffusion of this Babylonian Mystery Religion comes every pagan mythology, religion (especially mystery religion), and cult of the ancient world. From ancient Mesopotamian religion, to ancient Greek religion, to ancient Egyptian religion, to ancient Roman religion, to Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and every other belief system in the world, you can trace their foundational basis back to the original Babylonian Mystery Religion. Judaism and Protestant Christianity, of course, are (more or less) exempt from this all-pervasive Babylonian influence; they aren't pagan in nature.

All of the gods of those religions are fundamentally based on their prototypes: the figures of Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz. Satan and his demons had a hand in this too, by the way.

Alexander Hislop then argues that the overwhelming majority, if not every single one of the rites, symbols, and doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church can be traced directly back to the original Babylonian Mystery Religion. From Lent, to Easter, to Christmas, to even the symbol of the Cross, they are all Babylonian in nature.

TL;DR Catholicism is a conspiracy created by two bumblefuck rulers and their son in a random city to control people that somehow worked too well and became a world religion. This conspiracy was so good it basically created every other non-Judeo-Protestant Christian religion as well.

So I ask, is there anything true about The Two Babylons?

I especially ask because one Ralph Woodrow became this hypothesis's greatest proponent, writing a book, named Babylon Mystery Religion based on it. Babylon Mystery Religion became even more popular than The Two Babylons itself, but was taken out of circulation by Woodrow himself when he reread The Two Babylons and considered the text to be bullshit. He wrote a new book, titled The Babylon Connection?, just to refute The Two Babylons.

And now...
The webpages where you can read and/or download The Two Babylons (in its various editions):

http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/
http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/00index.htm
http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/
https://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/
http://www.johnrothacker.org/Article.html
https://hotk.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/babylon-mystery-religion.pdf
http://www.ldolphin.org/PDFs/The_Two_Babylons-Alexander_Hislop.pdf
http://www.freepdf.info/index.php?post/2012/07/30/Hislop-Alexander-The-two-Babylons
http://www.biblerays.com/uploads/8/0/4/2/8042023/thetwobabylonsor00hisluoft.pdf
https://www.scribd.com/doc/31691928...der-Hislop-lonsThe-Full-Hislop-2012-04-14-pdf
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-two-babylons-e22635529.html
http://cbcg.org/franklin/The-Two-Babylons.pdf
https://archive.org/details/theTwoBabylons/page/n0
https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_GooEAAAAQAAJ
http://www.seedofabraham.net/The Full Hislop-2012-04-14.pdf
http://www.centrowhite.org.br/files/ebooks/antigos/The Two Babylons or The Papal Worship - Alexander Hislop.pdf
https://archive.org/details/twobabylonsorpa00hislgoog
https://www.onthecheese.com/seekerworld/two-babylons/the-two-babylons-alexander-hislop-1916.pdf
http://pdf.amazingdiscoveries.org/eBooks/THE_TWO_BABYLONS.pdf
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-two-babylons-1853-alexander-hislop-e11751548.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/23-the-two-babylonsthe-full-hislop-e32036831.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/alexander-hislops-the-two-babylons-ultimate-bible-reference-e15044287.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-two-babylons-e33038530.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/two-babylons-e57848486.html
http://www.cuttingedge.org/TheTwoBabylons.pdf
http://sheldonemrylibrary.com/ReferenceReadingRoom/The_Two_Babylons.pdf
https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/2babindx.htm
https://reluctant-messenger.com/2-babylons.htm

The webpages where you can read and/or download Babylon Mystery Religion (in its various editions):

http://www.biblicallifestyleseminars.org/uploads/CI00046_Babylon_Mystery_Religion_R_Woodrow_1970.pdf
https://archive.org/details/Babylon-Mystery-Religion-Ralph-Woodrow
https://www.pdfdrive.com/babylon-mystery-religion-e19788032.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/babylon-mystery-religion-e19073107.html
https://www.scribd.com/document/335479238/Babylon-Mystery-Religion-Ralph-Woodrow-pdf
https://www.scribd.com/document/55407263/Babylon-Mystery-Religion-Ralph-Woodrow-1966
https://www.ubm1.org/babylon-woodrow.pdf
https://kupdf.net/download/babylon-...woodrow-1966-pdf_58cc4362dc0d60ba13c346a3_pdf
https://kupdf.net/download/babylon-mystery-religion-ralph-woodrow-1966_5a6338a9e2b6f52b2884aea3_pdf
https://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/01052018_updates/Ralph Woodrow - Babylon Mystery Religion - Ancient and Modern (1981) pdf.pdf
https://www.pdfdrive.com/mystery-babylon-book-e20395722.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/babylon-mystery-religion-e19788032.html
https://www.pdfdrive.com/babylon-mystery-religion-e19073107.html


Books whose information or arguments are based (at least in part) on The Two Babylons (in online and/or PDF form):

http://come-out-of-her-my-people.com/
http://www.johnrothacker.org/downloads/Babylon Mystery Religion Summary.pdf

Webpages whose information or arguments are based (at least in part) on The Two Babylons:

http://ldolphin.org/semir.html
https://www.bibletools.org/index.cf.../RTD/cgg/ID/13148/Nimrod-Semiramis-Tammuz.htm
http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/origin_of_babylon_sun_worship.html
https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com...ed/MBG_Vol_1_Text_A5_8SwCs3y1R3SMeZ9aBE5t.pdf
http://mystery-babylon.org/index.html
https://www.onthecheese.com/seekerworld/two-babylons/index.html

Webpages and books defending The Two Babylons:

http://www.british-israel.ca/two babylons.htm
http://seedofabraham.net/Avrams-Critique-of-Woodrow.pdf

Webpages and books critical of The Two Babylons:

https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphianinfo/articles/apologetics/dbhislop
http://btdf.joomla.redd.com.au/forums/topic/1006-the-two-babylons/
https://web.archive.org/web/20051126213913/http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9911chap.asp
http://www.ukapologetics.net/1hislopbaby.html
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ct_babylon.html
https://www.godfire.net/Elwin/two_babylons.htm
https://www.onthecheese.com/seekerworld/two-babylons/two-babylons-debunked.html
https://www.onthecheese.com/seekerworld/two-babylons/book-review.html
http://musicians4freedom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/The-Mystery-Babylon-Debate-Handbook.pdf
http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/alexander-hislop’s-“-two-babylons”-babylon-mystery-religion
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314...hwoodrow.org/books/pages/babylon-mystery.html
http://usminc.org/babbleon.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20110912012740/http://www.catholic.com:80/thisrock/1999/9911chap.asp
http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/The_Two_Babylons_by_Alexander_Hislop
http://archive.spectator.co.uk/arti...wo-babylons-by-the-rev-alexander-hislop-edinb

Arguments critical of The Two Babylons are summarized here:

https://www.conservapedia.com/''The_Two_Babylons''
https://www.deeperwatersapologetics.com/?p=9502
http://xhwa.blogspot.com/2008/12/babylon-connection.html
https://fundamentalbaptistchristian.blogspot.com/2015/01/alexander-hislops-two-babylons-is-not.html
Will update the spoiler as time goes on.
 
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Cthulu

Satan's little helper
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
And now...
The webpages where you can read and/or download The Two Babylons (in its various editions):

http://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/00index.htm
http://www.giveshare.org/babylon/
https://archive.org/stream/cu31924029406448#page/n1/mode/2up

The webpages where you can read and/or download Babylon Mystery Religion (in its various editions):

http://www.biblicallifestyleseminars.org/uploads/CI00046_Babylon_Mystery_Religion_R_Woodrow_1970.pdf

Books whose arguments are based on The Two Babylons (in online and/or PDF form):

http://come-out-of-her-my-people.com/
http://yadayah.com/Yada_Yahweh-God_Damn_Religion-Krima-Damnation.YHWH

Webpages whose arguments are based on The Two Babylons:

http://ldolphin.org/semir.html
https://www.bibletools.org/index.cf.../RTD/cgg/ID/13148/Nimrod-Semiramis-Tammuz.htm
http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/origin_of_babylon_sun_worship.html

Webpages and books defending The Two Babylons:

http://www.british-israel.ca/two babylons.htm

Webpages and books critical of The Two Babylons:

https://sites.google.com/site/christadelphianinfo/articles/apologetics/dbhislop
http://btdf.joomla.redd.com.au/forums/topic/1006-the-two-babylons/
https://www.deeperwatersapologetics.com/?p=9502
http://xhwa.blogspot.com/2008/12/babylon-connection.html
https://www.deeperwatersapologetics.com/?p=9502
http://www.ukapologetics.net/1hislopbaby.html
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mischedj/ct_babylon.html
https://www.godfire.net/Elwin/two_babylons.htm
https://fundamentalbaptistchristian.blogspot.com/2015/01/alexander-hislops-two-babylons-is-not.html
https://www.conservapedia.com/''The_Two_Babylons''
Will update the spoiler as time goes on.
No audiobooks? You actually expect me to read this shit? Smfh
 

Save the Loli

kiwifarms.net
No, it's actually just the old Roman Empire's bureaucracy detached from the dead Roman state (by the barbarians who conquered Rome and didn't need the rest of the Empire) and given a Christian flavor. That's why the Pope is the Pontifex Maximus (a title of the Roman Emperor), who is the head of the curia (just like the curia in Ancient Rome), and rules from a basilica (just like where the Roman Emperor spoke to the people). They also use a ton of other Roman terminology like "diocese", "vicar", "legate", etc.
 

ThePurpleProse

Average Joe
kiwifarms.net
Josephus wrote about both him and John the Baptist. He is also one of the most reliable contemporary sources on the region at the time. Try not being a :neckbeard:.
Sorry nigger, but I can write an essay about you, if I don't even preserve a single cell from your body you may as well be an invention, someone so important as Jesus was on his time don't you think anyone out there would have snatched at least a finger?

Also could be that Jesus was some sort of a screen, I mean if you shitposted on that time and decide with your friends to fuck up with the Roman Empire forum, you would create a fake burner account with fake name and all that shit, would be very understandable to do so.
 

Cthulu

Satan's little helper
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Sorry nigger, but I can write an essay about you, if I don't even preserve a single cell from your body you may as well be an invention, someone so important as Jesus was on his time don't you think anyone out there would have snatched at least a finger?

Also could be that Jesus was some sort of a screen, I mean if you shitposted on that time and decide with your friends to fuck up with the Roman Empire forum, you would create a fake burner account with fake name and all that shit, would be very understandable to do so.
Go home Randy you're drunk
 

Y2K Baby

The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom???
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Sorry nigger, but I can write an essay about you, if I don't even preserve a single cell from your body you may as well be an invention, someone so important as Jesus was on his time don't you think anyone out there would have snatched at least a finger?

Also could be that Jesus was some sort of a screen, I mean if you shitposted on that time and decide with your friends to fuck up with the Roman Empire forum, you would create a fake burner account with fake name and all that shit, would be very understandable to do so.
https://www.newgeology.us/presentation24.html
Read a book, nigga. Read a book.

Have you seriously not heard of the Shroud of Turin?
 

Tranhuviya

Degenerate Robot
kiwifarms.net
Sorry nigger, but I can write an essay about you, if I don't even preserve a single cell from your body you may as well be an invention, someone so important as Jesus was on his time don't you think anyone out there would have snatched at least a finger?
What the fuck? Do you genuinely believe that bone, not to mention flesh and all the other tissues, would survive that long? The relics of saints have only survived for so long because they were so meticulously cared for. And if you buy into the story, there is a very good reason that there is no body.
 

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