Is the United States the most free country? -

Slap47

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+ 1st amendment guarantees free expression and there isn't really many federal exceptions
+ The USA is the world superpower and tells international organizations that want censorship to fuck off
+ 2nd amendment lets people own guns
+ Americans have the right to organize in large groups

+/- Americans have freedom of religion but tax exemption also allows the government to define religion.

- Felonies deprive people of basically of their rights and felonies are handed out like candy
- Americans right to organize is nullified by required paperwork
- Zero tolerance policies allow teachers to call in the police to arrest 7 year old "super predators" for chewing gum
- CPS does insane shit like arrest parents for letting their kid play basketball in the backyard
- Several US States ban Americans from boycotting Israel and even criticizing Israel
- Most US States lack anti-SLAP legislation and don't offer decent free representation so the crazy and wealthy can use lawsuits as a bludgeon
- The police are supplied with military surplus and are not held accountable
- The US has worse obscenity laws than even Europe due to Puritanism and California.
- Supreme court justices just makes up stuff based on their mood and that is how law is made.
- Electoral college leads to government that doesn't represent the people
- Dogshit states like Arkansas have elections that are literally rigged and nobody cares
-US Academia had developed a culture where deplatforming (sometimes through violence) is celebrated.
-Home owner associations dot the country making peoples lives a living hell
- Americans elect judges for some reason and plea bargaining is used for most cases
- The government allows racism against specific groups but not others (Asians and whites)
- Wealth inequality and poor healthcare lead to poverty and poverty means less freedom.
- PATRIOT Act and other legislation strip people of basic right to privacy
- Commerce Claus and other legislation means states rights are null.
- Human Rights Commissions at the state level
- Hate speech laws in some states
- Corporations are ruled by a clique of progressives that hate freedom
- Americans aren't allowed to own "scary" guns.

America's got some obvious plus points but some of these negatives are pretty bad. Northern Europe might have more rape but at least you can chill out and mind your own business and the Swiss have basic freedoms like gun rights without the police state. Canada has hate speech laws and human rights commissions but so does the USA at the state level so thats hardly a point.

Dunno, Null had to flee to Russia to utilize his right to free expression. Sure you gotta be careful when it comes to criticizing Putin or liking analingus but you can say most of whatever you want.
 

garakfan69

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+ Doesn't have retarded laws against insults, blasphemy, etc.
+ Strong state rights
+ No retardedly high sales tax/VAT
- Spies more on its citizens than the Gestapo and Stasi put together
- Agencies force their private companies to install backdoors for them
- Agencies can order a private entity to hand over their data in secret without an actual court involved
- Deeply entrenched two party system (If I had to choose between our big center-right and center-left party I'd kill myself instead)
 

Takodachi

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Are you allowed to dress as Hitler, stand outside a synagogue and recite the 14 words without being thrown in jail for hate speech?
No? Then you arent as free as you think you are.

But hey, at least you arent yuropoo or require a loicense to wank.
 

Slap47

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Are you allowed to dress as Hitler, stand outside a synagogue and recite the 14 words without being thrown in jail for hate speech?
No? Then you arent as free as you think you are.

But hey, at least you arent yuropoo or require a loicense to wank.

No, obscenity laws and "fighting words" doctrine, etc.
 

Marco Fucko

I fantasized about this back in Chicago
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Are you allowed to dress as Hitler, stand outside a synagogue and recite the 14 words without being thrown in jail for hate speech?
No? Then you arent as free as you think you are.

But hey, at least you arent yuropoo or require a loicense to wank.

Someone could probably theoretically do that. Virginia let Charlottesville happen and that lasted overnight, and the KKK is also protected under free speech.
 

Sprig of Parsley

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Most free? Depends on what exact part of the freedom package, and what exact state and city you're in to some extent. As an overall, generalized measure I would guess probably not because I'm sure there are other governments out there that are more hands-off (but they might not have certain things codified like we do, so there's that to consider)
 

Slap47

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+ Doesn't have exceptional laws against insults, blasphemy, etc.
+ Strong state rights
+ No retardedly high sales tax/VAT
- Spies more on its citizens than the Gestapo and Stasi put together
- Agencies force their private companies to install backdoors for them
- Agencies can order a private entity to hand over their data in secret without an actual court involved
- Deeply entrenched two party system (If I had to choose between our big center-right and center-left party I'd kill myself instead)

- Several US States have blasphemy laws
- Commerce claus and other federal powers undermine state rights, several states are more than 50% federal land
- Several US States have higher taxes than European countries and US cities have incredibly high taxes
 

Rand /pol/

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It's incredibly hard to organize or run a union in the US compared to some parts of the world, which is the "least free" part of the country in my opinion. That, and the fact the super-wealthy and large corporations are taxed far, far below what they should be.
+ Strong state rights
- Commerce claus and other federal powers undermine state rights, several states are more than 50% federal land
State's rights are overrated and the amount of de-centralization can make large infastructure projects in the current year downright impossible.
 

Slap47

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It's incredibly hard to organize or run a union in the US compared to some parts of the world, which is the "least free" part of the country in my opinion. That, and the fact the super-wealthy and large corporations are taxed far, far below what they should be.


State's rights are overrated and the amount of de-centralization can make large infastructure projects in the current year downright impossible.

States rights increase accountability and local interest groups having a say which means less displaced people from major projects and better quality things like dams.
 
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