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They say trannyism should be judged by medical diagnosis. If you get a diagnosis and are/could be approved for SRS by a doctor, you're a legit trans. But the diagnosis process isn't hard science like a CAT scan or something. It's based on feelings (are you emotionally trans according to a psychologist asking you questions), self-presentation (you can meet some bare standard of not being openly unhinged), and not being on the record as a sex criminal/domestic abuser/etc. (meaning you can still be those if you keep it on the DL). So it's really very subjective, therefore a shitty standard.
If you spend any time watching online tranny communities you'll be quick to find the doctor shopping is very real. Coaching on what to say, reviews and suggestions on who to go to for your evaluation, etc. Part of grooming new trannys is ensuring that not even their own ignorance can prevent them from something irreversible. It gets downright insidious when you see some of the timetables.
And even if it was a logically valid standard, how could they possibly enforce it? They believe gender is based on feels and not biology, so who are they to prevent anyone from IDing as a woman, or a frog, or an anime character? They're all sexual libertines who think it would be wrong to restrict anyone's "gender expression", especially by law, so what is the solution here? There is none.
It would require a skeptical evaluator and the Big Tranny will never allow that to happen. There is too much money to be made now. LGBT activists have dozens of legal battles to fight across dozens of states. Marches will be marched and funds will be raised. You have taxpayer dollars go towards the mentally ill to get plastic surgery. Pharmaceutical companies and therapists get lifelong, although often lifeshort, customers. Fucking nobody gives up guaranteed government dough. It's money in the bank. To do anything else other than waste this money is a human rights violation.

I personally think things will change in the coming decades, but it will take a long time to undo the 5 year tranny blitz. Icepick lobotomies were once a miracle cure all. Thankfully that ended quickly, but not before tens of thousands of people, often women, were horribly mutilated.
 

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No doubt.

Gender dysphoria it is a condition with exists within the mind! Those who have an intersex conditions do not possess the ability to change that reality! No one does!
I dunno if having an extra X chromosome or two different genitalia exist only in the mind but I generally agree with you here.
 

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Anyone that wants to romanticize, fantasize and sexualize periods ain't fucking right in the head.
It reminds of that one group of trannies that got all butthurt about how they can't have periods and/or babies and how actual women need to shut up about it. Pretty sure this group was all into the idea about a baboon to human uterus transplant that had been done maaaybe once and failed spectacularly.
 

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Johnny boy, like 95% of people who are now coming out as transgender, don't actually identify as the gender they claim they are, but identify simply as trans*insert thing*. They are more in love with the idea of being transgender than they are with actually being the opposite gender. It's fashionable. In a few years it will be viewed in the same way as mullets and JNCO's, except instead of some embarrassing photos that their parents will show to their kids, many of these people will have irreversible effects done to their bodies, while people who actually identify as the opposite gender can live quiet lives, free of people using their mental and social issues as a fashion statement.
 
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Ken Jennings

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I'm transgender as well as being a clinical therapist. My personal opinion on this based on the evidence I've seen (this is not an official diagnosis nor have I ever met the person in question), I would be very skeptical to say they are transgender. It may be possible. Some trans don't do hormones for a variety of reasons from medical issues to feeling comfortable with just socially transitioning. But this doesn't seem to be what yaniv is doing.

Yaniv takes little to no effort to present or pass properly as their identified gender. Furthermore from my personal experiences with other trans people who aren't complete "SJW" types, most will just let it go if you get misgendered by someone. It's going to happen and it's part of the expectation that if you transition even if you present perfectly, things happen and it's bound to occur that you get called your birth gender and not your identified gender.

Yaniv presents with a multitude of symptoms that leads me to the following potential diagnoses:
  1. Fetishist Disorder(specified as nonliving object [menstrual products] & body parts [related to female menstruation]
    1. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent and intense sexual arousal from either the use of nonliving objects or a highly specific focus on nongenital body part(s), as manifested by fantasies, urges, or behaviors.
    2. The fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
    3. The fetish objects are not limited to articles of clothing used in cross-dressing (as in transvestic disorder) or devices specifically designed for the purpose of tactile genital stimulation (e.g., vibrator).
    4. Specify:
      1. Body part(s)
      2. Nonliving object(s)
      3. Other
    5. Specify if:
      1. in a controiied environment: This specifier is primarily applicable to individuals living in institutional or other settings where opportunities to engage in fetishistic behaviors are restricted.
      2. in full remission: There has been no distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other areas of functioning for at least 5 years while in an uncontrolled environment.
  2. Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    1. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack
      of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated
      by five (or more) of the following:
      1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents,
      expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
      2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal
      love.

      3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or
      should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
      4. Requires excessive admiration.
      5. Has a sense of entitlement (i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable
      treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations).

      6. Is interpersonally exploitative (i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own
      ends).

      7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
      8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
      9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.


I considered histrionic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder but could not rule them in due to lack of information on a few diagnostic criteria. I also considered Pedophilic Disorder but could not rule it in as it's not clear if they are having intense sexual urges & if they are causing Marked distress or interpersonal difficulty. It's possible but can't really comfortably rule it in.

So reviewing the criteria for gender dysphoria, yaniv technically meets the requirements for GD, but the clinical presentation is not inline with what I would consider normal or even an abnormal presentation of gender dysphoria.

I'd want to get a better understanding of Yaniv's history and if they actually have ambiguous genitals or an intersex disorder, it might give insight into if it's actually GD. If there is any abuse history or sexual abuse history would be interesting to learn.

This is just my opinions on it. But I'm skeptical to it being true gender dysphoria.
 

Ken Jennings

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I'd respect the real trannies if they cleansed the fakers from their ranks, so to speak.
There's actually a decent amount of trans people who hate the fakers and shit. In one support group I am in online, there was a transgender support group for FtM transmen who had to ban people from coming to the group because they would have people come to the group, claiming to be hurt or offended by the tiniest shit. One person tried claiming they had gender reassignment surgery as a FtM, the one person said "where's your arm scar" (cause of how they do the procedure, watch Jim's video if you dare), and she tried pulling some bullshit excuse of "they used a new procedure that doesn't require that".

There's a lot of transgender people getting very upset with a lot of these new "additions" to the group. Before a lot of this, most transgender men and women just wanted to get their hormones and surgery and wanted to live without telling LITERALLY EVERYONE they are trans. For many the whole point is to blend in or pass.

There's going to be a major upheaval in the next couple years if I had to predict what the old timers are wanting to do to address these fake people coming under the trans umbrella.

I know that doesn't hold much water as it's just from my perspective, but it seems the quiet rumblings are going to become a roar soon enough.
 

Jwhy

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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure most actual trans women would not be that obsessed with periods because it would have triggered their dysphoria 🤷‍♀️
 

pr3nt177

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I could be wrong but I am pretty sure most actual trans women would not be that obsessed with periods because it would have triggered their dysphoria 🤷‍♀️
I don't know any female who has ever talked about periods/tampons at any length. None celebrate their periods and/or see it as the epitome of femininity. The only ones who seem obsessed are the ones who aren't biologically female.

You do what? See periods as some sort of gender pinnacle or talk about periods/tampons at great length?
 

Jwhy

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I don't know any female who has ever talked about periods/tampons at any length. None celebrate their periods and/or see it as the epitome of feminity. The only ones who seem obsessed are the ones who aren't biologically female.
I do
 

Jwhy

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I don't know any female who has ever talked about periods/tampons at any length. None celebrate their periods and/or see it as the epitome of femininity. The only ones who seem obsessed are the ones who aren't biologically female.



You do what?
Know females who talk about their periods
See periods as some sort of gender pinnacle or talk about periods/tampons at great length?
Pretty sure the only people who do that are Yaniv and terfs.
 

Short Stack

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Has anyone done a timeline on jonny's turning / becoming trans?
It doesn't look like he was ever gay, (attracted to the same sex) His attraction has always been towards females.
Early in the DMs he talks about using his junk, of wanting hetro sex.
His attraction to young females I believe is a fear of "experienced" females.
It appears he had no luck attracting females as a male, so he thinks he would have better luck as a female?
SO? When did he 1st come out as trans?
 

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Has anyone done a timeline on jonny's turning / becoming trans? ...
SO? When did he 1st come out as trans?
TL;DR: In 2017 but cross-dressing as of 2014 and wearing menstrual pads in or before 2008.
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Note: I've made corrections below with help from others, esp. @pr3nt177. Thank you.

I haven't seen a timeline like that, but a lot can be extrapolated from the health monitor timeline, the OP, and the FAQ. Dates are hazy because of all the lying. Hell, reality is hazy because of all the lying.

1993 - At 6, a specialist diagnoses him "as a girl" if you believe what he said in the BCHRT hearings. Miriam testified he was always effeminate, liked Barbies, and wanted a princess costume. He says he was sexually assaulted as a child, but I've seen no indication of when.

2000 - At 13 (or, sometimes, 14), he begins menstruating, according to his and Miriam's testimony. Or, at 13, he began having clear discharge from his penis, according to what he told a woman in the 2008 chat for which we have logs.

2008 - By 21, he's a student at Kwantlen and has become fixated on menstruation, is wearing pads every day, and chats habitually with women online about their periods. He's had one unsatisfactory sexual experience with a girl in a school washroom and isn't sure he actually penetrated her. He tries to establish August 21 as "National Sex Day" in Canada.

2011 - At 24, he seems to be selling porn by posing as Krista Gunn (fascinating post by @Yellow Yam Scam) and is hyping sex toys in social media.

2012 - At 25, he begins helping the teen girl band Cimorelli with social media and exploits the opportunity to perv on young girls online. He is sometimes referring to himself as Joanna. This is the year of his creepy Elmo antics.

2014 - At 27, he's still fixated on menstruation and wearing pads, but he's beginning to crossdress, buying a woman's bathing suit to wear on the Las Vegas trip for which he avidly sought a female companion. He is trying to find the nerve to actually go into women's washrooms and ask girls for pads. This may have been the year in which he tried to talk an underaged girl into bringing tampons to his hotelroom during a trip to Quebec Toronto.

2015 - At 28, he complains about a Sears installer mistaking him for a woman, saying they need "to go back to the anatomy books so they can see that I am NOT a woman." He is horndogging a 14-year-old girl online and later takes her first name - Jessica - for his own.

2017 - At 29, he's beginning to pose as transgender on some social media, e.g., posting photos of himself wearing makeup and a sparkly pink baseball cap. He identifies himself as a "PR representative" for trans singer Chelsko. Miriam says under oath that he "came out" in July, but did not say which July. Could have been 2017 or 2018. By year's end, he has legally changed his name to Jessica.

2018 - At 31, he is increasingly public about being trans, says he is on HRT, joins a women's gym, and complains that people might "take pictures of my vagina." He's photographing himself in women's washrooms and posting the pictures online. From March through May he is busy filing complaints with the BCHRT under the rubric of trans activism. Miriam said in BCHRT testimony that Yaniv came out in July and July 2018 seems to be what she meant. He's changed his name officially at the end of the year but continues using Jonathan on some of his sosh media where he finds it advantageous. may be what Miriam meant by his coming out date, but he'd already changed his name by then.

2019 - At 32, he tells the BCHRT that he's had genital surgery, then says he hasn't had genital surgery but has scheduled it, then says he hasn't scheduled genital surgery.

(Yaniv was born in June 1987, so it's kind of 50/50 whether the ages I'm giving are correct or age+1 at the time of any particular event during the first half of a year.)

I'm sure I'm missing important stuff here. @Norman B. Normal asked this week if we have a tracker collating what we know about Yaniv's perving. Putting one together might be a worthwhile effort that combines Yaniv's sexual posturing with his sexual predation.
 
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Short Stack

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@wabbits Thanks ...
It's a shame they can't go after him criminally for perjury. If you think what this whole charade has cost the govt., lawyers & staff. The waxers, both those involved in the court cases & those that settled, the lawyers that were pro bono for the waxers
That looks like a heap of cash at this point. & what has it cost jony?
They have laws in the states about frivolous lawsuits. the truth is jonys was almost entirely fraudulent.

& he skates with a judgement against him of 6K ???????

He so pisses me off
 
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