Plagued Islamophiles / Regressive Left - Liberal non-Muslims who are desperate to protect the Religion of Peace

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Cosmos

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So in the Linda Sarsour thread (as well as in other, recent threads pertaining to Islam), some people were suggesting that we should make a thread for Islamophiles/the regressive left. Islamophiles are the exact opposite of Islamophobes; they fucking love to defend Islam and Muslims. For this particular thread, "Islamophile" will only refer to liberal (usually white) non-Muslims. Some characteristics of Islamophiles are
  • Completely unwilling to criticize Islamism and radical Islam
  • Parrot the phrases "RELIGION OF PEACE" and "NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM" after terrorist attacks
  • Defend sharia law
  • Show far more concern for backlash Muslims might face following terrorist attacks than for the actual victims
  • Think that Islamophobia is a much worse problem than Islamic terrorism is
  • Equate criticism of Islam/radical Muslims with racism and bigotry
  • Insist that Muslim women aren't really oppressed (not saying that all Muslim women are oppressed btw, but a huge number of them are)
  • Etc
The term "regressive left" was coined by Maajid Nawaz, a former Islamist turned moderate Muslim who now works to combat extremism. As the Wiki article explains:
In 2007, Maajid Nawaz renounced his previous association with the radical Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir in favor of secular Islam. He is co-founder and chairman of Quilliam, a counter-extremism think tank based in London that seeks to challenge Islamist ideology.[1][5]

Nawaz has used the phrase regressive left to describe left-leaning people who, in his opinion, pander to Islamism, which he defines as a "global totalitarian theo-political project" with a "desire to impose any given interpretation of Islam over society as law"[6] and which he opposes on the ground that "any desire to impose any version of Islam over anyone anywhere, ever, is a fundamental violation of our basic civil liberties".[7] According to Nawaz, such sympathizers of Islamism include "atheists who are on the side of the Islamists, defending Islamism in the name of cultural tolerance".[8]

In an October 2015 interview with political talk show host Dave Rubin, Nawaz elucidated further the reasoning behind his choice of the word regressive. He hypothesized that a section of people on the left "genuinely believe" that they are fighting an "ideological war" against neoconservative and neocolonialist foreign policies of Western governments which promote state-organized violence and chaos in the form of wars and military invasions. In contrast, he claims, such leftists forgo their duty to denounce the violent acts of theocratic extremists such as Islamists, at times going so far as to "make alliances" with some of the most regressive, theocratic, and murderous regimes and organizations. He cited Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the British Labour Party, as an example of someone who "has been historically very close" to supporters of Islamist organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah. In Nawaz's opinion, it is possible to denounce both neoconservative foreign policies such as the Iraq war (which he had opposed) and theocratic extremism, however, those that he labels "regressive leftists" fail to do so he says.[9]

According to Nawaz, the notion that Muslims cannot cope with criticism or mockery of Islam and only react violently, is "patronizing, self-pity inspiring mollycoddling" of the very Muslims it claims to serve and emancipate, because it does not expect them to be civil and control their anger.[7] This "racism of low expectations" lowers the moral standards of people within minorities, seeking excuses if they express, misogyny, homophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, or antisemitism, whilst holding members of the majority to "universal liberal standards".[2]

Haras Rafiq, managing director of Quilliam, expressed the view that there is a tendency of some on the left to excuse Islamism. "We have not got to grips with the symbiotic relationship between Islamism and far-right hatred, and the regressive left that is prepared to excuse Islamism."[10]
Before we start, I should point out that there's absolutely nothing wrong with defending Muslims from bigotry. You can (and should) criticize Islam without advocating hatred towards the people who follow it. The problem with Islamophiles is that they're making it much harder for Islam to modernize and reform. They shut down any discussion about the problems present in Islamic ideology/certain Muslim communities. Not only that, they often try to shut down secular Muslims/former Muslims like Maajid Nawaz, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Irshad Manji.

Oh, and lmao, when I image searched "Islamophiles" to get some posts to start this thread, this happened:

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I know what I was looking for, Google. Don't play games with me.

Anyway, let's get this thing started:
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Don't forget the Southern Poverty Law Center, which lists Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz as "Anti-Muslim Extremists".

Seriously, this makes me so fucking angry. Here's a bit from Ayaan Hirsi Ali's profile that caught my eye:
who says she endured female genital mutilation and fled civil wars and an arranged marriage in Africa

Listen and believe huh? Only when it's white feminists/POC feminists spouting the right kind of ideology.

You guys listed a fucking cartoon frog as a hate symbol. You belong on the comedy circuit, not the political stage.
 
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@Cosmos You did it.

Yo folks at hispanic lands is islamophiles an issue there with you too? Or is it just white first world crap? Bc I know japans want none of this shit.

Islamophilia seems to be an exclusively Western phenomenon.

Don't forget the Southern Poverty Law Center, which lists Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Maajid Nawaz as "Anti-Muslim Extremists".

Seriously, this makes me so fucking angry. Here's a bit from Ayaan Hirsi Ali's profile that caught my eye:


Listen and believe huh? Only when it's white feminists/POC feminists sprouting the right kind of ideology.

You guys listed a fucking cartoon frog as a hate symbol. You belong on the comedy circuit, not the political stage.

The hatred towards Ayaan Hirsi Ali makes me so fucking angry. I've read most of her books, and she's a very inspiring woman. Seriously, she clawed her way up from being a poor, downtrodden woman from Somalia to being a fucking Dutch politician and internationally-renowned speaker/author. The reason why she's so angry about Islamic fundamentalism is because it's made her suffer throughout her entire life. Aside from the genital mutilation/her experiences growing up in Somalia and Saudi Arabia, her friend and associate Theo van Gogh was murdered for working with her on a film that criticized the treatment of women in Islamic societies. Ever since then, Ayaan's had a target on her back. She can't go anywhere without bodyguards and still sometimes has to cancel speaking events due to security issues.

Only in the context of ~Islamophobia~ would a black woman from a third-world shithole be criticized for speaking up for women's rights.
 

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I have a former friend who became a Islamophilie after Trump got elected. Pretty much the friendship ended when I said something critical against fundamentalists then the fucker REEE'D about "their culture"or how I'm a bad person cause I'm a not open to it or I should be them forgiveness cause of the crusades. Cause you know I had a fucking hand helping the crusaders.
 
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In addition to Ayaan Hirsi Ali I also recommend looking up Brigitte Gabriel. In fact, just search for anyone who is an actual survivor of that horrid corner of the world.

I am so tired of seeing people mock christians for "stupid religious" behavior they would never criticize Islam for, just because Muslims are poor oppressed minorities. Equality-of-outcome is a very dangerous idea. Terrorists count on it.

Manchester was kind of it for me. You can bitch about Christian oppression all you like, but I don't remember the last time a Christian terrorist murdered two dozen teenagers for the crime of dancing and wearing makeup.

Muslims at large don't deserve to be hated. But there is a goddamn problem and any Muslim who cares about God's children should probably be at least understanding of the situation.
 

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I have a former friend who became a Islamophilie after Trump got elected. Pretty much the friendship ended when I said something critical against fundamentalists then the fucker REEE'D about "their culture"or how I'm a bad person cause I'm a not open to it or I should be them forgiveness cause of the crusades. Cause you know I had a fucking hand jerking the crusaders.
Come on man, open your mind (before they open it for you :knife:).
 

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Islamophilia seems to be an exclusively Western phenomenon.



The hatred towards Ayaan Hirsi Ali makes me so fucking angry. I've read most of her books, and she's a very inspiring woman. Seriously, she clawed her way up from being a poor, downtrodden woman from Somalia to being a fucking Dutch politician and internationally-renowned speaker/author. The reason why she's so angry about Islamic fundamentalism is because it's made her suffer throughout her entire life. Aside from the genital mutilation/her experiences growing up in Somalia and Saudi Arabia, her friend and associate Theo van Gogh was murdered for working with her on a film that criticized the treatment of women in Islamic societies. Ever since then, Ayaan's had a target on her back. She can't go anywhere without bodyguards and still sometimes has to cancel speaking events due to security issues.

Only in the context of ~Islamophobia~ would a black woman from a third-world shithole be criticized for speaking up for women's rights.

When she was a girl Ayann Hirsi Ali was forced to undergo genital mutilation including complete removal of her clitoris, she will never experience sexual pleasure in her lifetime something 99% of humanity takes for granted. This is the sort of barbarity these witless cretins are defending.
 

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