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Plagued Islamophiles / Regressive Left - Liberal non-Muslims who are desperate to protect the Religion of Peace
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I dunno if there's already a thread on this, but why do liberals and progressives simp so hard for Islam when the two are so incompatible? If Islam became a major voting bloc in the US, on par with the Christian Right in the 90's, they would be worse for the rights of women and LGBT than any of Kotaku's worst PCP-induced nightmares.
The only reasons I can think of for this:
1. Thou shalt not speak ill of the culture of exotic brown people
2. The Left and radical Islam share a belief in Taqiyya: the idea that deceit is acceptable if it advances their ideology.
3. A remnant of mid-Aughts Dubya Derangement Syndrome and "fuck-you-dad" politics.
Am I missing anything?
The only reasons I can think of for this:
1. Thou shalt not speak ill of the culture of exotic brown people
2. The Left and radical Islam share a belief in Taqiyya: the idea that deceit is acceptable if it advances their ideology.
3. A remnant of mid-Aughts Dubya Derangement Syndrome and "fuck-you-dad" politics.
Am I missing anything?
Because the slightly more moderate left has been bullied and hijacked by communist fuckbags who want to see Freedom supplanted by dogma, regardless of whose it is. Simply put, Islam is useful to them so they support it, but leftists don't actually want Sharia, they want communism and Islam is a good tool to destroy the current system.
But one just has to look on the other side of the world to see how progressive policies are treated in Islamic countries. Frankly, I find it funny when Lefties scream 'nazi' and 'fascist' because they are projecting so fucking hard.
"...evil satanic jews" - Louis Farrakhan the grand wizard of Nation of Islam, whom leftists refuse to shun.
But one just has to look on the other side of the world to see how progressive policies are treated in Islamic countries. Frankly, I find it funny when Lefties scream 'nazi' and 'fascist' because they are projecting so fucking hard.
"...evil satanic jews" - Louis Farrakhan the grand wizard of Nation of Islam, whom leftists refuse to shun.
This book is excellent:
Leftists love tyranny. Islam is just the most recent one they simp for
Leftists love tyranny. Islam is just the most recent one they simp for
Left voting people are insane, irrational and prone to violence over civil discourse, usually pedophiles, secretly hate women and gays and wish they could be just as open about it as mudslimes. Liberals love Islam because they share so much with it.
Left don't know what or whom they love, but they know who they hate and the followers of islam also hate them, so they think they are allies. The followers of islam mostly know they're not (though those who have lived in various middle-eastern countries might be, if they fought on the communist/left side).
More ideologically driven leftists believe in the emancipation of the oppressed and they think muslims are among the most oppressed. They easily fall for the same tales of islamic victimhood as Mohammed used to get allies to help him conquer Mecca.
This really does explain it all. You forget the implications of when deceit is acceptable. The left lies to muslims that they'll get to keep their religion in their socialist utopia and muslims lie to the left that they're really progressive and that muhammed was the first feminist.
You also forget:
4. They like pedophilia.
More ideologically driven leftists believe in the emancipation of the oppressed and they think muslims are among the most oppressed. They easily fall for the same tales of islamic victimhood as Mohammed used to get allies to help him conquer Mecca.
This really does explain it all. You forget the implications of when deceit is acceptable. The left lies to muslims that they'll get to keep their religion in their socialist utopia and muslims lie to the left that they're really progressive and that muhammed was the first feminist.
You also forget:
4. They like pedophilia.
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They aren't simping for Islam, they're simping for le exotic culture. As soon as a Muslim brings up anything actually related to Islam they get jumped harder than any conservative will, I know this from experience.
Not if the left manages to subvert Islam, that's literally the whole plan.
They're more concerned with sticking it to the right by any means necessary, but you're also not wrong on this one.
'taqiyya' isn't an Islamic thing, the only people who believe in it are the raafidi Shias who are considered crypto-pagans by the majority of mainstream Muslims.
Watch this guy's videos he's one of the most outspoken Muslims against the left's attempts at subverting Islam:
Unless you live and work in an area, like Paris, where Islam does directly rule portions of society and land.
I know this too from experience having lived near and passed through areas where those who live in mini-Caliphate zones are expected to observe Islamic dress rules, avoid "offending" Islamic practice, not sell Haram food/drink etc despite not being Muslims.
I think we both know this isn't ever going to happen in our lifetimes. The left, as much as Christians scream about it, still has never managed to actually subvert a large church of any real consequence. I.E: The Nordic National Churches have never held any meaningful power, and for all the faggots hiding inside the Catholic Church is still screaming louder than anyone about gays, femenists and abortions.
Christianity is a far softer target for subversion than Islam is and they still failed.
Taqiyya is a Shia doctrine yes, but you and I both know there is more than enough material in the Qu'ran and the Hadith that justify, nay command unending war against the non-Islamic world and their heathen ways.
If murdering their men and raping their women is perfectly acceptable for Allah, it's not terribly hard to justify everything under that level so long as it is directed against infidels who can't even claim status as a "People of the Book".
All Abrahamic religions explicitly have provisions that allow evil deeds against nonbelievers for the furtherment of the religion in question. Islam is no different, but it more honest about it than most.
Sure.
What are you talking about? Christianity was barely holding on for dear life at the turn of the century and it's just about dead in the west at this point.
Sure but I'm not sure what you're point is in saying this, just kinda seems like moving the goalpost.
No, actually it is, we're explicitly told to grant safe haven to any infidel who doesn't war with us so that we may proselytize to them.
Islam doesn't give a 'do whatever you like' pass against disbelievers just to be clear, the 'evil deeds' you refer to are specific not arbitrary, and obviously we don't see them as evil because good and evil is based on the dichotomy of absolute monotheism vs polytheism.
It's simply a case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Hardcore Republicans treat Muslim-Americans like the scourge of America. Like with any minorities, Democrats buddy up with them because it equals potential votes.
Do you have anything to prove to the contrary? We actually talk about the Islamification of Europe on the farms quite frequently.
It was hanging on for influence and membership, but Christianity wasn't overtaken by lefties. It largely killed itself via social suicide and a long series of conflicts out of which it came out looking the fool.
The left didn't "Kill" Christianity, Christianity failed to adapt and continues to slowly kill itself all of its own violition.
Lies and subterfuge are a key part of war, the Satanic Verses for instance. Claim the key goddesses of a people you need on your side but at the time cannot destroy is accepable, until their usefulness runs out and you are able to destroy them.
Muhammad was a very successful and talented liar, my own opinions on the legitimacy of his religious claims, in his military and economic actions. How can we condemn someone for lying when the Prophet himself indulged constantly? Should his fine example not be suitable for emulation?
Unless they reject your message, at which point you're commanded to destroy them using any means necessary and expand the Theatre of Islam. Not all Jihad is violent, although it's certainly the one Muhammad approved of and indulged in the most. There's plenty of other ways; Sheikh Muhammad Ayed and others of his school are quite fond of outbreeding the heathen and subverting democratic states for instance, and we can hardly consider his to be a minority opinion.
Same thing ultimately. Crush your enemies, nobody is allowed to exist outside the thumb of Islam.
Your God is all good, and yet allows; no....Required his devotees to perform evil deeds?
Is he so weak, or is he unable to perform evil deeds? Then he isn't all powerful.
Is he able to do things but requires his devotees to perform evil deeds in his name for pleasure? Then he isn't all good.
Not that I expected a bronze age warlord to really think this out, you really need a good argument when you're a wealthy merchant from a powerful family who will stab the shit out of everyone who disagrees. Not like anything has ever changed.
2001: ISIS bad
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The "left" isnt for islam or for anything really. The only thing they stands on is being anti christian. Its a counter culture movement that stems from times when christian fundies were more dominant in the mainstream. Weve now seen a shift with the modern "mainstream" having been effectively taken over by anti-christian sentiments.
They are for abortion, gays, etc and for general degenaracy because it opposes christians values. The reason they simp for islam is because islam is also anti christian. The difference is that in term of ideology, christian and islam shares much more in common than the regressive left does with islam. The christian and islamic divide is theological one and shares historical emnities but more modern christian and muslims actually shares very similar values.
They are for abortion, gays, etc and for general degenaracy because it opposes christians values. The reason they simp for islam is because islam is also anti christian. The difference is that in term of ideology, christian and islam shares much more in common than the regressive left does with islam. The christian and islamic divide is theological one and shares historical emnities but more modern christian and muslims actually shares very similar values.
Islam is still around politically?
I'm not trying to prove the contrary. Some people are overzealous, that's a thing.
That's not how lefties work, the end goal of subversion is destruction. It doesn't matters to them if Christianity remains or dies as long as it capitulates to their demands, which it has at every turn.
Sure but that's war so I'm not sure what your point is?
I mean, I'd need some clarification on what you mean by 'lies'. But again, war is its own thing, not a unilateral pass to go round lying to random disbelievers.
The verses I quoted literally says the exact opposite of that.
We don't really call that jihad but yeah, why wouldn't we outbreed everyone else and bring people to our side? Like your problem at its core just comes down to 'I like disbelief so Islam is bad for me', like yeah of course it is dude.
They are evil only in your personal opinion, and that doesn't really hold much weight if you're not a moral realist, which you might be idk whereabouts you stand on meta-ethics. Regardless God defines good and evil, so nothing God commands is evil by definition and opposing His command is evil by definition.
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for the majority, it's because liberals tend to be more sympathetic to the plight of the unfortunate, and there are a lot of unfortunate people in muslim-majority countries so there's plenty to cry over. for the minority of leftists, it's for the reasons others have stated (shared belief in deception as an acceptable means to spread belief, etc.)
confronting normal left-of-center liberals and even social justice types who aren't too far off the cliff is actually relatively simple and they tend to be receptive to it. if you present it like this, it tends to work:
"okay you know the Westboro Baptist Church? that's fundamentalist Christianity, but fundamentalism isn't the majority sect of Christianity in the modern world. now imagine that the majority of Christians were members of the WBC. these are the people in power in theocratic muslim-majority countries where women get stoned for having premarital sex and gays get tossed off of rooftops." then you give them some statistics about domestic violence in the arab world and they're much more critical of it
confronting normal left-of-center liberals and even social justice types who aren't too far off the cliff is actually relatively simple and they tend to be receptive to it. if you present it like this, it tends to work:
"okay you know the Westboro Baptist Church? that's fundamentalist Christianity, but fundamentalism isn't the majority sect of Christianity in the modern world. now imagine that the majority of Christians were members of the WBC. these are the people in power in theocratic muslim-majority countries where women get stoned for having premarital sex and gays get tossed off of rooftops." then you give them some statistics about domestic violence in the arab world and they're much more critical of it
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