It's been 75 years since the Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima. -

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

It's been 75 years since the atomic bombings of Hiroshima. So yeah, what do you guys think? It's been 75 years since the world was forever changed. On one hand, we have an amazing power source because of this weapon. On the other hand, the world will supposedly end if we use nuclear weapons.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

I suppose that once the theory was hit upon, nukes were inevitable. That they've only been used as weapons twice is remarkable.

 

[Observerer]

Unironically two nukes weren't enough.

 

[F/lying Frankenstein]

This day was a grim day, I would say.

I understand the idea that Japan may not have surrendered after Germany did, and that America would have lost many soldiers trying to conquer the archipelago..
Still, the terrifying might of nukes are quite sobering. I'd say that I'd rather see conventional warfare happen than to see nukes used again.

Call me faint-hearted if you want, but trying to survive a nuclear winter isn't among on the list of things that I want to do in my life.

 

[CrippleFucker69]

I suppose that once the theory was hit upon, nukes were inevitable. That they've only been used as weapons twice is remarkable.

This. War was always used as a way to unite a country, but now that you can kill millions with one bomb its seen as an evil that should never be done.

...and that America would have lost many soldiers trying to conquer the archipelago..
Still, the terrifying might of nukes are quite sobering. I'd say that I'd rather see conventional warfare happen than to see nukes used again.

I do appreciate this as well. Losing 1000 American soldiers is unacceptable. Killing millions of Japanese civilians and then causing black rain which killed the injured further? Perfectly fine.

 

[ZombiefiedFerret]

Should of bombed the brits.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

This day was a grim day, I would say.

I understand the idea that Japan may not have surrendered after Germany did, and that America would have lost many soldiers trying to conquer the archipelago..
Still, the terrifying might of nukes are quite sobering. I'd say that I'd rather see conventional warfare happen than to see nukes used again.

Call me faint-hearted if you want, but trying to survive a nuclear winter isn't among on the list of things that I want to do in my life.

Maybe those extinction rebellion campaigners should provoke an atomic three-way between China, India and Pakistan: drastically reduce the global human population and solve climate change with a nice long spell of nuclear winter. It could be called Greta's War.

 

[George Orson Welles]

THE JAPS HAD IT FUCKING COMING!

 

[Hi-Point]

The Japanese should have surrendered after Germany, the war was already lost and it was clear the Allies were already going to win.

As for the bombs its definitely interesting seeing how the use of them has sparked fear in the world and that threat of nuclear warfare.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Also, very controversial opinion is that I believe that nuclear weapons aren't actually as bad as people think. That's because there's a lot of misconceptions around nuclear weapons. For example, nuclear winter is only a hypothetical. The base idea is that the soot from the fires of nuclear winter can be put into the stratosphere and block out the sun to a degree.

There was this anon on /k/ who went by the tripcode Oppenheimer, this anon knew quite a lot about nuclear weapons and their components. Like for example, how hard it is to actually find a proper means to detonate a nuclear weapon. This is why after the first nuclear reactor was built, the main part of the Manhattan Project was actually finding a way to detonate the atom bomb. A nuclear chain reaction is extremely rare in nature, in fact it's likely that it's never happened before in human history. Though it is /k/, Oppenheimer's threads were indeed somewhat helpful and interesting.

Also, the reason why the Beirut explosion was not nuclear, is because there was no bright flash If you look at every nuclear test ever, there's usually a very bright flash of ultraviolet light (on the visible light spectrum) before the actual explosion is seen proper. Another misconception is that mushroom clouds aren't purely the product of nuclear weapons, just very large explosions in general. See, the explosion of the Yamato for example.

 

[George Orson Welles]

There was this anon on /k/ who went by the tripcode Oppenheimer, this anon knew quite a lot about nuclear weapons and their components. Like for example, how hard it is to actually find a proper means to detonate a nuclear weapon. This is why after the first nuclear reactor was built, the main part of the Manhattan Project was actually finding a way to detonate the atom bomb. A nuclear chain reaction is extremely rare in nature, in fact it's likely that it's never happened before in human history. Though it is /k/, Oppenheimer's threads were indeed somewhat helpful and interesting.

Kinda hilarious that a guy named Oppenheimer knew a lot about nuclear weapons and their inner workings, seems a bit.. suspicious my guy, but I buy it.

 

[Judge Holden]

THE JAPS HAD IT FUCKING COMING!

Unironically this.

Setting aside their conduct over the course of the war and their treatment of civilian populations, Japan's official surrender policy at the time was literally just "ok we promise to stop attacking you, in exchange we keep our empire and face absolutely no consequence for anything we did. oh yeah and you have to leave your bases and territories in asia because....reasons".

Had Japan conducted itself impecably according to the rules of war and geneva conventions and every other international standard, then this shit would still be utterly unacceptable and deserving of being punched in the gut for the hubris of demanding they be actively rewarded for their war of aggression in the event of their surrender.

Given Japan's actual actions and the behavior of its military up until that point....yeah they got what they fucking deserved.

Their whole idea of leveraging the allies into accepting their "negotiated surrender" bullshit was in going out of their way to cause as much damage to military and civilian targets as possible to the point where the allies lost the will to put them down and just let them go with the promise of demilitarisation. Nuking them was a literally surefire way of letting those in charge know with absolute certainty just how easy and cheap it could be to put them down permenantly if they didnt end the war right then and there

 

[Lone MacReady]

Even if you dislike America, Japan had it coming with the shenanigans they were up to for years prior in Korea and China.

 

[F/lying Frankenstein]

Maybe those extinction rebellion campaigners should provoke an atomic three-way between China, India and Pakistan: drastically reduce the global human population and solve climate change with a nice long spell of nuclear winter. It could be called Greta's War.

Don't give them ideas. Please.

I know that they can't realistically do that, but this is 2020, anything seems to be possible this year.
Besides, I'd argue that a brutal drop in terms of population would be very bad news, not our "salvation" from our "ecological sins". Policies that try to limit births always backfire, whether it is short-term ( China ) or long-term ( Western countries ) because you always need people to take care of the growing ranks of the elderly while taking their jobs. And you don't really want to fill all these jobs with immigrants.

And while a nuclear winter might reverse global warming, what happens if said global warming resumes its course when the skies become clear again? ( Carbon dioxide being a bitch to capture )

Edit: Posted too early, had to end a sentence.

 

[CrippleFucker69]

Had Japan conducted itself impecably according to the rules of war and geneva conventions and every other international standard, then this shit would still be utterly unacceptable and deserving of being punched in the gut for the hubris of demanding they be actively rewarded for their war of aggression in the event of their surrender.

If i recall, the Geneva convention at that time was still about using gas in warfare and how to treat sick and injured soldiers, the modern agreement was rewritten post World War 2 (1949, i believe) and some more times later on.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

A nuclear chain reaction is extremely rare in nature, in fact it's likely that it's never happened before in human history.

I've always found the Oklo deposits fascinating.

Natural Nuclear Reactors

 

[Sped Xing]

Why are the atom bombs bad if murderizing the shit out of Japan and Europe with conventional bombs was ok?

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Threads 1984 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Important movie about nukes

archive.org

Nuclear weapons made this feelgood movie possible.

 

[Indian J.C denton]

This. War was always used as a way to unite a country, but now that you can kill millions with one bomb its seen as an evil that should never be done.

I do appreciate this as well. Losing 1000 American soldiers is unacceptable. Killing millions of Japanese civilians and then causing black rain which killed the injured further? Perfectly fine.

While let's pretend that Operation cherry blossoms at night wasnt a thing which could've severely crippled the us weren't for the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki

 

[CrippleFucker69]

let's pretend that Operation cherry blossoms at night wasnt a thing

You mean that operation that relied on american media reporting that the balloons hit? Yeah, definitely would've crippled the entirety of the US economically