It's somewhat depressing that the Farms is one of the few places you can have a coherent conversation without risk of censorship -

[Smolrolls]

Wow reading the bible must stop men from becoming homosexual according to your facts

Better than getting dick up the butt without consent.

Just don't go crazy on the hellfire, brimstoning and "if you don't convert you'll all burn for all eternity" etc etc etc...

 

[KiwiFuzz]

I had to spend 7 hours driving from Sacramento to Visalia and back by myself for work today and I was mulling this over.

One of the thoughts I had in between my texts with my angry black wammen boss--who must put in at 350! real porker!--was that a lot of the zeitgeist is about identity and personal experience trumping anything resembling research. It's the case in academia and journalism for sure, but also unsettlingly in politics and law. And it's a lot of the culture of the internet.

A tentative conclusion that I reached today while putting many, many miles on my 2004 Toyota Corolla is that one of the things The Farms does right is "no powerleveling."

Even someone such as myself who works in an administrative capacity for a major, major pillar of e-commerce (but not the one you are thinking of) can appreciate how the "no powerleveling" rule heightens the level of discussion here.

For example, neither my degree in Kinesiology from CSU Stanislaus nor my 18 months in Chowchilla for human trafficking (hilarious story, ask me sometime!) can be wielded as a cudgel on The Farms.

Every argument needs to be weighed on its own merit.

 

[formershroomeryuser]

Better than getting dick up the butt without consent.

Just don't go crazy on the hellfire, brimstoning and "if you don't convert you'll all burn for all eternity" etc etc etc...

Wow god damn it as though you hella dropped some information on me or something of an informal nature quite blatantly

 

[Smolrolls]

Wow god damn it as though you hella dropped some information on me or something of an informal nature quite blatantly

Why good ser, violating the first commandment already? Well I suspect thoust need more than holy water to erase your sin.

Then again I'm also a sinner too, so who am I to judge.

 

[potato in mah painus]

I'm not counting the chans, a coherent conversation there is pretty much impossible with the rampant autism and personality disorders on display. But it's sad that this is one of the very few places you can actually talk about troonism in something more than a froth-mouthed rage without feeling like you could get banned, or even getting a visit from the police. And this extends to other topics which are also considered taboo.

I don't understand why social media websites think prohibiting any earnest conversation on these topics is going to cause anything but trouble. All it manages to do is piss people off, myself included, and make them more ardent in their beliefs. If they're so confident that their opinion is correct that they're willing to ban someone or have someone arrested, maybe actually have the warrant and justification for holding that opinion in the first place and have them put their money where their mouth is. As is, prohibiting any kind of conversation on the subject matter just pisses the people off with something to say, and further rewards the child-like ignorance and stupidity of the social class that benefit from this (wokelets).

I guess I'm just grateful there's still some places left where you can have somewhat of an intelligent conversation about these things. But KF isn't a debate club, it's a place to laugh at lolcows. And so it's sad in a way that the farms have become the best place to talk about this stuff for me.

That middle one doesn't make sense, unless you consider the fact the media keeps itself relevant by generating outrage and distractions.

Black vs White (fuck you niggerfaggot journalists that don't capitalize both)

Left vs Right

Female vs Male

Gay vs Straight

You are just watching the circus getting optimized to maximize outrage across the internet, what is going on sadly is nothing new. Having strict control and censoring topics strategically is the best way to prevent discourse from disrupting the narrative you wish to build.

TLDR:

 

[Thomas Highway]

OP best not shitpost in Beauty Parlor.

 

[formershroomeryuser]

Why good ser, violating the first commandment already? Well I suspect thoust need more than holy water to erase your sin.

Then again I'm also a sinner too, so who am I to judge.

Judge not lest ye be judged

 

[ClownBrew]

I'm grateful for the Farms even though I don't tend to get along too great with maybe ~50% of the userbase here.

It's a place where we can go and truly speak freely. That alone is worth its weight in gold these days.

 

[ProtonMailMan]

I remember waiting 2 hours for a 4 kb picture to download....and we were happy to get it in 2 hours!

TIT-TIES (he kept repeating to himself as slowly but surely (assuming know 2800 baud hitch)

Better than getting dick up the butt without consent.

Just don't go crazy on the hellfire, brimstoning and "if you don't convert you'll all burn for all eternity" etc etc etc...

No one should get dick up the butt without consent.

Listen guys: when she groans "wrong hole" you must withdraw at once. Negotiations can then proceed.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

By taking over language they took over the minds of their subjects and managed to rally so many people behind their causes

Bingo! That is the very crux of the biscuit.
Language, communication, word written and spoken, are both the most valuable tool and dangerous weapon humans possess.
After all, the world was formless and void until the first word was spoken.
And God said, "Let there be shitposting"
He saw that it was good and laughed and laughed.

Don't ever let them take your words.

 

[Taylor Swift's Ghostwrite]

Every argument needs to be weighed on its own merit.

This is actually the important part of the farms imo. Sometimes, someone's experience is important or relevant in a way that bears mentioning, but otherwise its really refreshing. Oppression olympics has ruined 90% of discourse online, and its also put people who may have actual experience with fucked up stuff off of participating in conversations on the topic and instead left histrionic nutcases screaming at each other.

Also, similar to this, anyone in serious debate or conversations will tell unless the ad hominem is directly relevant (like you're a pedophile speaking of if kids can consent) that its an illegitimate method of addressing a person's point. I often think unless we're speaking specifically about something that requires knowledge only a person in the field is likely to have (say something in high end engineering) that the claim of authority over most topics functions as almost a reverse ad hom.

 

[ProtonMailMan]

This is actually the important part of the farms imo. Sometimes, someone's experience is important or relevant in a way that bears mentioning, but otherwise its really refreshing. Oppression olympics has ruined 90% of discourse online, and its also put people who may have actual experience with fucked up stuff off of participating in conversations on the topic and instead left histrionic nutcases screaming at each other.

Also, similar to this, anyone in serious debate or conversations will tell unless the ad hominem is directly relevant (like you're a pedophile speaking of if kids can consent) that its an illegitimate method of addressing a person's point. I often think unless we're speaking specifically about something that requires knowledge only a person in the field is likely to have (say something in high end engineering) that the claim of authority over most topics functions as almost a reverse ad hom.

One of the best things about the "no powerleveling" rule is that it can be suspended at appropriate times.

Your peers will let you know if you chose poorly.

Mistakes are still made but usually forgiven, and most of us pretty quickly get a feel for what will fly around here and what will not.

 

[KingElizabeth]

Learn another language and frequent foreign sites.

You will be shocked to see just how much this is a problem very specific to the Western, English speaking sphere. That does unfortunately include most of Western Europe as well.

 

[Blamo]

I'm grateful for the Farms even though I don't tend to get along too great with maybe ~50% of the userbase here.

It's a place where we can go and truly speak freely. That alone is worth its weight in gold these days.

This place is tolerant, in the original sense of the word. That's a treasure beyond measure. Very different people can get along if they are not spergs. Who could have thought!