ITT We argue about how fatties get fat, why they stay fat, and what they should do instead - It's a mystery! It's an obesity sperging containment thread!

[The Crawling Chaos]

You ever wonder what it would be like for an obese person if, just for an hour, you magically lifted all the excess weight off their bodies all at once, like removing 200-250lbs of sandbags from them that they’d been carrying for years? How light would they feel? Would they be dizzy from how fast and easily they can move? How much breathing comes naturally now? Would they be overjoyed they could now run and jump and twirl? Would they feel practically superhuman from the difference, like they could almost fly?

I bet Bibi feels like that a lot lately. Someone lifted 400+ lbs of sandbags off him and now he can finally breathe.

There is a machine that provides exactly that.

 

[Enjoy_the_Soylence]

Overweight people should get a dog they have to walk 2x every damn day.

 

[Anne Onimous]

It’s a common deathfat delusion that a better life is just around the corner, that one day something will click in their brain and all of their problems will be gone.

The reality is that most people will never lose weight, just as most drunks will never go sober or most losers won’t suddenly wake up and turn into overachieving workaholics. The odds of permanent weight loss are terrible. The vast majority of people regain all of the weight relatively quickly. Many gain more than what they weighed before their weight loss.

There are many reasons for this. Besides the most obvious ones, I think a big issue is that weight loss just doesn’t live up to their expectations. People like Chantal expect big things to happen after they lose weight. They think the haters will shit themselves from jealousy, that men will throw themselves at their feet, that all of their problems will be gone. It’s not gonna happen. You’ll be just another normal person. The average thin person isn’t attractive or successful or even happy. There is no reason why an ex-fatty would be those things solely because they managed to shed some lard. All of their mental issues and insecurities will still be there. They’ll still be lazy and just as stupid. All that changes is their body composition.

Physically, weight loss won’t be a magic pill. Sure, it’s easier to be active with less lard to carry around, but it won’t suddenly make you fit. You have to work your ass off for that just like everyone else. Many of the health issues caused by obesity can’t really be fixed. Weight loss is more about stopping the damage instead of fixing it.

At the end of the mythical weight loss journey, you’re just gonna be the same person you were before, just as unpopular, awkward, and dumb. All that’s gonna change is that you’ll have lose skin instead of fat. And you still won’t be able to run a marathon or probably even a 5K. You’ll embark on a fitness journey, a s plastic surgery journey. At the end of them all, you’ll just be another regular Joe and the world won’t give a single shit about you or your journeys.

You’ll go back to eating your existential pain away and gain everything back.

Spot on fellow KFer.

I'll add that obese people's identity is often their weight, and only that, like it's all they have to set them apart from everyone else. And when you take that away from them they don't exactly like it because they are used to always be the center of attention, mostly negative one but attention nonetheless (and we know Chantal craves attention).

(this might be PL? idk)

I've personally seen it happening with a co-worker in the admin department at a random High School; she was probably around 350lbs. Every student knew her as the Fat Lady and she was a very nice person so students were always happy to meet her for the first time, already knowing who she was and realizing she was as sweet as rumor has it.

Then one day she decided to lose weight. For 8 fucking months she ate nothing but protein powder mixed with water 4x day and a green salad for dinner. She was determined to succeed and she did. She dropped 200lbs... and ended looking like everyone else.

Well.

She then had a massive identity crisis. For the students she was not the nice fat lady anymore... she was a nobody. She was like every other admin employee.

She ended gaining back everything and then some more within two years. She never regretted gaining back the weight; the spotlight was back on her!

Being the Fat Lady was her whole damn identity and she obviously needed the recognition that comes with it more than the perks of being normal sized.

I could see Chantal doing the same if she could miraculously lose the weight overnight. One year and she would be back to 497lbs.

Hell. Maybe six months would be enough time.

 

[Super Colon Blow]

People like Chantal who don't build any other interest into their life generally fail. Take classes, read books, get good at a craft or a skill. If you want attention, create a positive reason to get it. Chantal wants to get attention without doing anything to deserve it.

 

[Fae’ri]

Spot on fellow KFer.

I'll add that obese people's identity is often their weight, and only that, like it's all they have to set them apart from everyone else. And when you take that away from them they don't exactly like it because they are used to always be the center of attention, mostly negative one but attention nonetheless (and we know Chantal craves attention).

(this might be PL? idk)

I've personally seen it happening with a co-worker in the admin department at a random High School; she was probably around 350lbs. Every student knew her as the Fat Lady and she was a very nice person so students were always happy to meet her for the first time, already knowing who she was and realizing she was as sweet as rumor has it.

Then one day she decided to lose weight. For 8 fucking months she ate nothing but protein powder mixed with water 4x day and a green salad for dinner. She was determined to succeed and she did. She dropped 200lbs... and ended looking like everyone else.

Well.

She then had a massive identity crisis. For the students she was not the nice fat lady anymore... she was a nobody. She was like every other admin employee.

She ended gaining back everything and then some more within two years. She never regretted gaining back the weight; the spotlight was back on her!

Being the Fat Lady was her whole damn identity and she obviously needed the recognition that comes with it more than the perks of being normal sized.

I could see Chantal doing the same if she could miraculously lose the weight overnight. One year and she would be back to 497lbs.

Hell. Maybe six months would be enough time.

I think the main trait that prevents Chantal succeeding is simply defiance at this point. She’s like a child- if you tell her to do something that would clearly benefit her, she wants to do the opposite.

In her eggplant, she misconstrues it as individuality and quirkiness (re: iwannadomyfoodbucketlist chimpout).

This type of behavior is absolutely detrimental to success, especially weight loss, which requires constant monitoring, effort, and perhaps professional attention.

Not gonna sit here and give advice to the bitch but her personality alone makes her a lost cause. The fatness is not her identity, but a byproduct of it.

 

[AbraCadaver]

There is a machine that provides exactly that.

Goddamn but that machine is amazing. I wonder how many HAES influencers on instagram would stop touting OBESE IS WONDERFUL if they suddenly had no more pain in their knees and joints, if they found they could walk and walk at a normal pace and not get utterly winded and sweat-drenched.

That man saying, “I can’t believe this, I want to run! It feels like...just being happy to be alive.” And then how sad and exhausted he looked when his regular weight was restored.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

There is a machine that provides exactly that.

The fact this even has to exist is genuinely fucking sickening. Honestly, my sincere hope would be once they snap back to the crushing reality of what they did to themselves, they an hero themselves.

There needs to be less programming focussing on these morons repairing the self wrought harm to their bodies and more that shows the disgusting reality of their life and them as cautionary tales in and of themselves. They're not inspirational, theyrecnot brave, they made stupid, selfish disgusting choices that harm them and take resources needlessly.



Edited to make it on topic, the showing fats as inspirational for losing sells the lie to other fats that they can lose all the weight, have a hawt und secksay boaday, and it perpetuates the lie. If we stopped that and focused on a message of fat: not even once, it might help stop overweight people getting to that point.

 

[The Crawling Chaos]

The fact this even has to exist is genuinely fucking sickening. Honestly, my sincere hope would be once they snap back to the crushing reality of what they did to themselves, they an hero themselves.

There needs to be less programming focussing on these morons repairing the self wrought harm to their bodies and more that shows the disgusting reality of their life and them as cautionary tales in and of themselves. They're not inspirational, theyrecnot brave, they made stupid, selfish disgusting choices that harm them and take resources needlessly.

To be fair, the zero-g treadmill wasn't created specially for weight loss. It's just one of the many things you can use it for.

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Anti-Gravity Treadmill has been used for rehabilitating lower extremity injury or surgery, aerobic conditioning, weight control, gait training for neurological conditions, strengthening and conditioning the elderly.

I wonder how many HAES influencers on instagram would stop touting OBESE IS WONDERFUL if they suddenly had no more pain in their knees and joints, if they found they could walk and walk at a normal pace and not get utterly winded and sweat-drenched.

Short answer? ALL OF THEM.
You have to be an absolute cretin, after experiencing what it would be like to loose that extra human and a half you are carrying on you, to say: Naaaah, this is not for me. Give me back my extra 300lbs!

 

[Mr. Manchester]

If they slapped Chantal in that gravity machine and it got easier to walk she would whine about how it's too much work and that she's hungry.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

To be fair, the zero-g treadmill wasn't created specially for weight loss. It's just one of the many things you can use it for.





Short answer? ALL OF THEM.
You have to be an absolute cretin to say: Naaaah, this is not for me. Give me back my extra 300lbs!

Aaah, fair enough. Still, it's a crying shame it has to be used on people who have let themselves get to that size. It's certainly an amazing piece of equipment.

 

[Edith Puthy]

Spot on fellow KFer.

I'll add that obese people's identity is often their weight, and only that, like it's all they have to set them apart from everyone else. And when you take that away from them they don't exactly like it because they are used to always be the center of attention, mostly negative one but attention nonetheless (and we know Chantal craves attention).

(this might be PL? idk)

I've personally seen it happening with a co-worker in the admin department at a random High School; she was probably around 350lbs. Every student knew her as the Fat Lady and she was a very nice person so students were always happy to meet her for the first time, already knowing who she was and realizing she was as sweet as rumor has it.

Then one day she decided to lose weight. For 8 fucking months she ate nothing but protein powder mixed with water 4x day and a green salad for dinner. She was determined to succeed and she did. She dropped 200lbs... and ended looking like everyone else.

Well.

She then had a massive identity crisis. For the students she was not the nice fat lady anymore... she was a nobody. She was like every other admin employee.

She ended gaining back everything and then some more within two years. She never regretted gaining back the weight; the spotlight was back on her!

Being the Fat Lady was her whole damn identity and she obviously needed the recognition that comes with it more than the perks of being normal sized.

I could see Chantal doing the same if she could miraculously lose the weight overnight. One year and she would be back to 497lbs.

Hell. Maybe six months would be enough time.

While that may be true for the one person you knew of, stating that all fat peoples' identities are solely their weight is stupid. For the misanthropic and chronically undereducated heifers we see on YouTube, that may be the case, but we'll never know, because they will never be a normal weight.

 

[Contrary]

Spot on fellow KFer.

I'll add that obese people's identity is often their weight, and only that, like it's all they have to set them apart from everyone else. And when you take that away from them they don't exactly like it because they are used to always be the center of attention, mostly negative one but attention nonetheless (and we know Chantal craves attention).

(this might be PL? idk)

I've personally seen it happening with a co-worker in the admin department at a random High School; she was probably around 350lbs. Every student knew her as the Fat Lady and she was a very nice person so students were always happy to meet her for the first time, already knowing who she was and realizing she was as sweet as rumor has it.

Then one day she decided to lose weight. For 8 fucking months she ate nothing but protein powder mixed with water 4x day and a green salad for dinner. She was determined to succeed and she did. She dropped 200lbs... and ended looking like everyone else.

Well.

She then had a massive identity crisis. For the students she was not the nice fat lady anymore... she was a nobody. She was like every other admin employee.

She ended gaining back everything and then some more within two years. She never regretted gaining back the weight; the spotlight was back on her!

Being the Fat Lady was her whole damn identity and she obviously needed the recognition that comes with it more than the perks of being normal sized.

I could see Chantal doing the same if she could miraculously lose the weight overnight. One year and she would be back to 497lbs.

Hell. Maybe six months would be enough time.

If Chantal lost a lot of weight, she'd have a horse head, she has an incredibly longggggggg face. If you look back to some of her earlier videos she looks awful. So I think its stay fat and look like crap or get thin and still look like crap. That's not even taking into account the turkey neck she'd have with loose skin bags to replace the chins.

 

[AbraCadaver]

To be fair, the zero-g treadmill wasn't created specially for weight loss. It's just one of the many things you can use it for.





Short answer? ALL OF THEM.
You have to be an absolute cretin, after experiencing what it would be like to loose that extra human and a half you are carrying on you, to say: Naaaah, this is not for me. Give me back my extra 300lbs!

I think a lot of them would vow to change, then fall back on usual overeating within a month because they just don’t have the will. Much in the same way that Chantal gets slapped with a health scare and vows to change immediately, then gives up two days later.

Once they sat back down on the couch at home and were surrounded by their old favourite junk foods, I think a good number would start employing the same excuses to reason away their desire to change. Baby steps, not all at once, it’s a journey, muh health prevents me from X, I need X to cope, it’s not a crime to treat yourself, X type of lifestyle change is too triggering to me, etc.

Too many people will never change, even if they want to, because change is work and challenging and they have always taken the easy way through life.

I would love to see people like them turn it around, get better and feel genuinely good about themselves when they wake up each day. It’s uplifting to see someone make a positive change for the better and take their life in a whole new direction. But even if they were in tears on that treadmill, talking about how they can’t believe they let it get to this point, never again, they want to escape the pain and weight...a lot would forget that feeling and make mental excuses quickly on why they can’t change. Some people just have no idea what it’s like to challenge themselves, really work hard and push to reach a tough goal. They were never taught to value that struggle, even in an abstract “reach for your dreams” way. Theirs has always been the path of least resistance, and that path never leads to any real change.

 

[Randy Lahey]

If Chantal lost a lot of weight, she'd have a horse head, she has an incredibly longggggggg face.

If she lost a lot of weight she could glide around like a flying squirrel.

 

[DongMiguel]

There is a machine that provides exactly that.

This is from a documentary called My Big Fat Body by comedian Frank Payne. It jumps into his unhealthy lifestyle and why he wants to lose weight.

The documentary was released in 2009. He died three years later from heart disease, I believe, at the age of 49.

49 and dying of heart disease.

I know we talk about whether Chantal cares to live long (her flippant comments aside) or if she just doesn't want to admit the realities, but shit like this is her future. Sure, some super obese person might make it out of their 40s but it's rare. Frank weighed less than Chantal does right now and he died before hitting 50.

Chantal is not just obese. Obese people, even morbidly obese people, can kick it into their 70s if they're lucky. But not the super morbidly obese. If you're anywhere near 400 lbs at her height, you've got a life cap and for Chantal, it likely is ten years.

I do think Chantal still operates out of the mindset she did in her early 20s, when she was pretty damn fat but 150+ pounds lighter than today, and that's the mindset she's a month of good eating from dropping enough weight to feel comfortable.

Someone mentioned that fat people, after they lose weight, have a hard time recognizing the person in the mirror and I think it's the same for people who put on a significant amount of weight. So, while Chantal has always been fat, she likely hovered between 250-300 for most her teenage and early adult life, so, the massive weight gain she's seen the last four or five years probably doesn't compute in her head.

She also likely maintained her weight better when she was younger, working and more active. So, the eating wasn't as lethal and I truly think she's convinced herself that she's maybe put on 50 lbs at the most since turning 30. Because of that, she doesn't seem to take the health signs as seriously. Like, you know, the fact she's unable to walk short distances without sounding like she's going to keel over.

I don't know. It's a real cognitive dissonance at play here.

 

[Anne Onimous]

While that may be true for the one person you knew of, stating that all fat peoples' identities are solely their weight is stupid.

The whole HAES movement begs to differ.

 

[Edith Puthy]

The whole HAES movement begs to differ.

Are all fat people part of the HAES movement now? No. It's a really dumb fringe group with some terrible insidious ideas, but nothing more.

 

[deputydogshit2.0]

Aaah, fair enough. Still, it's a crying shame it has to be used on people who have let themselves get to that size. It's certainly an amazing piece of equipment.

Am I the only one who would be willing to get into that machine and ADD a few hundred pounds to get an idea what it feels like to be a deathfat?

 

[Randy Lahey]

Am I the only one who would be willing to get into that machine and ADD a few hundred pounds to get an idea what it feels like to be a deathfat?

yes

 

[DolphinLife]

I seriously doubt Chinny knows what it’s like to feel good. I don’t think she has ever felt good at least not in her adult years. She can’t say hey, I wanna feel good because she doesn’t know what that’s like. I’m assuming she thinks the way she feels is normal. As if everyone feels like her. She’ll never improve because she doesn’t think there is a comparison between how shitty she feels and what it truly feels like to feel good. To her, huffing and puffing with little to no exertion, continual fatigue and bitchiness, no motivation for anything meaningful in life and sleeping the day away is just a normal day for everyone.