Let's Sperg JAIMAS PLAYS A TERRIBLE GAME: EXTREME MEATPUNKS FOREVER by Heather Flowers - TFW You Make James Corbett Seem Like a Good Writer by Comparison

[rackshatter]

I wish I could provide more verification.

He went to USC, and I didn't really know him too well at the start of his transition. I saw him around campus. How could you miss someone completely non-passing wearing a dress, but its uni people do that stuff. The games program was held in a pretty secluded area of campus. The cinema school (where the games program was located) was pretty small in size, so even if you didn't explicitly go out to meet people, you'd still see the same people around a lot.

Heather was two (?) years above me, so I didn't really get the chance to be in any classes with him or see his games'. He was, at one point, majoring in Computer Science, but I guess he realized he wanted a useless degree instead so he went ahead and transferred into the game design program after his first year. The only stories I really have involve him being really loud and obnoxious in the common areas of the cinema school, but, I mean, the school was filled with those types. He was pretty well known in the program, being an openly obnoxious trans person, so most of my interactions with him were framed that way.

Most of his games prior to Meatpunks were very non-story based and bordering on absurdist, so it doesn't surprise me that writing a story like this results in a nonsensical narrative. You can trove through his itch page if you want an example of the kinds of games he made at school.

 

[Jaimas]

@Jaimas i don’t vidya or like vidya but I love your play throughs

Thank you, Cat

 

[c-no]

Thank you, Cat

Next game you try, do what @CatParty did years ago play Tetris while you're drunk.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Someone suggested that I run a game of this (because apparently it's an RPG), and I drunkenly agreed.
How deep have I stepped in the shit.

 

[Jaimas]

Someone suggested that I run a game of this (because apparently it's an RPG), and I drunkenly agreed.
How deep have I stepped in the shit.

Hoo boy. You remember that terrible feminist witch RPG covered in the FATAL and Friends thread?

You're looking at about that tier.

 

[Aaa0aaa0]

I wish I could provide more verification.

Its all good. I didn't think there would be too many interesting stories on Flowers and I rather hear that. I may make fun of the game but knowing Heather isn't making her own life or at least other people's lives shitty is nice to hear.

Someone suggested that I run a game of this (because apparently it's an RPG), and I drunkenly agreed.
How deep have I stepped in the shit.

The TTRPG has at least 1 other troon contributing to it. Your outlook is grim.

 

[Yukari Yakumo]

So, any updates on Extreme Meatspin Forever?

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

He probably went off to play the superior meat-based video game: Cruelty Squad

 

[Xerxes IX]

Wait, so the different characters in the visual novel are associated with different colors and their dialogue is done in wildly different typing styles including chatspeak...

Homestuck ruined a whole generation of leftist content creators. Maybe ruined is the wrong word because it implies Homestuck is why this game sucks, but it's obnoxious and cringeworthy to see something you can tell was influenced by it.

 

[Ponchik]

i completely forgot how i ended up in this thread but it was nice to be reminded how irreparably fucked the indie scene is

 

[Zaryiu2]

Some more information about creator Heather Flowers (aka Heather Roberts) I'm not making a thread so I didn't archive everything, sorry.
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Spoiler: full introduction

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Heather doesnt seem like a Narcissit, this is how people on queer twitter talk.
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Older Selfies:
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I'm sorry Heather, but I have bad news for you.

Spoiler: Likes Communism, Hates Capitalism

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I wish I knew what the above meant.
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There are not enough rainbows in the world for this statement.

Spoiler: assigned cop at birth

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Maximum Ride became a giant fillabuster for fighting climate change towards the end if I recall correctly.
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Spoiler: on her own work

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There's selling a product and then there's believing other's hype about yourself too much.
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Glad she set her sites narrower, the destruction of capitalism will have to come before I call her a good writer.
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Tempting me to make my own shitty game about meatpunk, but on the Moonman Doom side of things.

Also, no. A good story writer isn't their message: its how they use their words and the quality of narrative they produce. Fuck off.

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At least she enjoys what she's creating, but man, really worried it's a fetish.

Spoiler: On fandoms and other media

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Does this mean if I'm a fascist I give up my artist card? Probably.

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Caffinated Otter isn't wrong at all.
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Imagine only seeing the world like this.

Spoiler: lastly, worldbuilding and a bit more on meatpunks

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There's more but I can look at those when we have more context later.

@Jaimas , you might enjoy an interview with Ms. Flowers and her music friend, it includes some of the "why" to the "why the fuck do you write like this". You are also correct.

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Homestuck ruins writing again. Fuck this.

>It is to my greatest shame that my main account isn't furry enough
...So she's a furry too? Uh anyway @Jaimas you mentioned The Surge had stuff it didn't handle well, what were those?

 

[Jaimas]

>It is to my greatest shame that my main account isn't furry enough
...So she's a furry too? Uh anyway @Jaimas you mentioned The Surge had stuff it didn't handle well, what were those?

The Surge is rife with good ideas and excellent mechanics layered atop terrible ideas and awful mechanics. I don't think the game is anywhere near as rewarding as it should be given how punishing it is, I think the energy mechanic in the game barely functions if you're fighting like you should be, and the bosses range from shit to genuinely entertaining with almost no middle ground.

But what I was referring to in this case was narrative: The Surge doesn't really have an emotional core to its story. Warren himself doesn't really get fleshed out until the DLCs, and the supporting characters don't really give you a lot to work with compared to your average Souls game. There's also tons that just isn't explained at all.

 

[Aaa0aaa0]

i completely forgot how i ended up in this thread but it was nice to be reminded how irreparably fucked the indie scene is

There's a lot of people still making games because they think games are fun and not as a great way to shove a message down your throat. The problem is that examples like this are more prominent due to people on websites like itch & twitter promoting the hell out of it. The indie circlejerk is loud and has kotaku and other sites in its pocket, but scrolling though social media tags allows you to find things you'd actually care about (granted like steam not everything is something you are interested in) with people who actually care about their games.

I choose to follow indie devs on twitter who keep their game account as games and maybe one in a while say "happy international x day" and nothing else aside from "everyone is welcome to play our game". They're surprisingly more numerous than you'd think - the circle jerk only extends so far.

I find that those who went to art school for their game design degree and haven't been picked up by a major company have a higher chance of being in the circlejerk. It is what it is. Focus on those not jerking off and you'll find the flawed but fun games indie is known for.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Might as well post this here because it's as close to a review of this game as I'm ever going to make, seeing that I've now read through it and consider it possibly the worst RPG I've ever read (it's tied with Black Tokyo).
It's two hours of me and a few other spergs reading through and doing autistic commentary. It's the only thing Meatpunks deserves.

 

[Jaimas]

Might as well post this here because it's as close to a review of this game as I'm ever going to make, seeing that I've now read through it and consider it possibly the worst RPG I've ever read (it's tied with Black Tokyo).
It's two hours of me and a few other spergs reading through and doing autistic commentary. It's the only thing Meatpunks deserves.

Holy shit, I was expecting a lack of quality, but not this ridiculous a lack of quality.

It's not even the fun kind of bad, holy shit. Thank you and your team for at least trying to make it entertaining.

You've earned a serious dose of the libation of your choice, old friend.

 

[Adamska]

Holy shit, I was expecting a lack of quality, but not this ridiculous a lack of quality.

It's not even the fun kind of bad, holy shit. Thank you and your team for at least trying to make it entertaining.

You've earned a serious dose of the libation of your choice, old friend.

It's the only book I've read so far I refuse to finish. I would actually be willing to finish Black Tokyo with the others with me, but fuck this book and franchise; nothing in it works.

 

[Aaa0aaa0]

Might as well post this here because it's as close to a review of this game as I'm ever going to make, seeing that I've now read through it and consider it possibly the worst RPG I've ever read (it's tied with Black Tokyo).
It's two hours of me and a few other spergs reading through and doing autistic commentary. It's the only thing Meatpunks deserves.

Thank you Randall & @Adamska , I owe you gentlemen my life.

This looks like a troon who used the last name of a Homestuck character. Homestuck continues to add to the worse to it.

Thank you for the Aqua Teen Hunger Force reference, I needed this.

Oh god it directly makes programming references.

As you guys dived into the mech stats & builds, it really does feel like OFF + Eva in its weird parts and components of mechs plus the synching & organic nature of Eva. The whole series could be described as "Eva + OFF + Homestuck + Welcome to Nightvale + Power Rangers but it's badly done."

The 5 mile away axe is likely what the creators intended. They like breaking reality as long as its cool but holy shit does it break game balance. A lot of it is the creators being nice and wanting to give a lot of freedom to the players and DMs, hoping the people who play take some great liberties and do what they like to create a memorable experience, but ended up with a game with a very patchy structure that's easy to break and can have railroading left and right.

The game comes off as people who spent all their time on the internet wanting to roleplay IRL friendship interactions and failing, particularly with the gay drama.

I'm sorry to say that you guys actually got MORE worldbuilding than we do. I'm not kidding. In Jamias play through we looked at some of the tweets from the creator's twitter for context. We also dealt with how boring and retarded the "no characterizing the fash" was. You solved the problem by just saying "what if they were gene purist" and giving them a small backstory and it is insane.

You guys make several comparisons to Chris and I want to make sure you guys know what the creator looks like:

More recent pictures plus her thoughts. She's uh, interesting, but she seems like a nice person to non-nazis (I know) aside from her bad games. I wonder if she has autism or autistic elements (being trans + how she talks). I'm actually pretty sure she's a trust fund baby as well, she's at least well off enough that she has no college debt from game design.

As well as the Co-Writer and why the relationship stat is a thing.

Enjoy its carrd autism: (archive)

Spoiler: You could have hired Aura for the podcast! :horrifying:

Really looking forward to the Shitpost RPG you kids are putting out with the Ghost of Himmler as a status effect. I should watch you guy's other stuff, you're a lot of fun. Made this shit less painful to look at, at least.

 

[Yukari Yakumo]

Something about the RPG makes me want to buy it so I can have my character be a commie-killing straight man American hero.

 

[Jaimas]

It's the only book I've read so far I refuse to finish. I would actually be willing to finish Black Tokyo with the others with me, but fuck this book and franchise; nothing in it works.

To be fair, going over the thing like you did, it's pretty blatantly ripping off Apocalypse, so you'd be reviewing something you already have there.

I'm absolutely flummoxed by this one. It feels like the kind of joke game Chris used to talk about (which basically boiled down to concepts like "It's Pokemon, but you get Sonichu as a starter!").

 

[Yukari Yakumo]

Might as well post this here because it's as close to a review of this game as I'm ever going to make, seeing that I've now read through it and consider it possibly the worst RPG I've ever read (it's tied with Black Tokyo).
It's two hours of me and a few other spergs reading through and doing autistic commentary. It's the only thing Meatpunks deserves.

Never would I expect to find a stream about a bunch of retards tearing apart a leftist "punk" cumstain the funniest thing ever. My favorite quote is "So what you're saying is that if I call someone a faggot in this world enough times, I can destroy them emotionally?"