Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[all4mom2]

Don't puberty blockers themselves cause depression and suicidal ideation?

So one might conclude from Jazz.

 

[sperginity]

Sander looks the way he does because he's a son of pathologically narcissistic mother who may have chased him with a knife at some point, and a doormat father.
He's severely abused behind the cameras.

OR severely neglected. or both!

Don't puberty blockers themselves cause depression and suicidal ideation?

Yes. It is a known side effect. It was discovered when it was a drug for prostate cancer & endometriosis.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

You know, a lot of trans people/AGPs/whatever are really into forced feminisation/castration stories. And a common subject of those are really young boys. Are we sure they aren’t just tricking the medical establishment and public into turning kids into spank fodder? Watch, as soon as everyone knows a soft boned Jazz kid, it’ll turn out it’s for “trans youths” to undergo mandatory simulated pregnancies like the ladies in Brave New World.

 

[NoReturn]

It's just a pet theory I have. But basically SSRIs make kids susceptible to trooning out because they blunt sexual pleasure and desire.

Know what's funny? I've read stories of depressed "asexuals" who went on SSRIs and got a sex drive. I wonder if it's like adderal where it chills out kids with ADHD but makes everyone else hyper.

 

[Gramlol]

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I tried to find the essay but it 404'd, which creeps me out. I'm sure it's preserved somewhere in the Wayback Machine or reposted on a substack or something. I don't exactly agree with Blanchard, but the fact that I'm having difficulty pulling the article up is disturbing.

Masculinity, anime, and gender dysphoria

An analysis of media-induced transgender identification

medium.com

I don't think it's cartoons. I think it's lack of proper socialization with other kids, leading vulnerable kids to only learn about life through cartoons and porn. Jazz is a weird case because Jeanette pushed him to do it. Also antidepressants and endocrine disruptors. But y'all don't want to hear me sperg about phthalates, atrazine, and fluoxetine.

Not to drag it out yet again and I know it's not strictly to do with Jazz etc, but definitely recommend reading this piece.
It isn't about the anime as such but more the creation of this space where men and boys can crave a type of emotional wholesomeness, cute for the sake of cute, pretty for the sake of pretty, idea of womanhood. Which is, in fact, an anime fiction because all women on and off have very difficult relationships with womanhood and it's socially dehumanizing effects, and the way it can make you hate yourself.

Conversations about challenging current concepts of masculinity are doomed when it's boiled down to one dimensional everything either being Toxic Masculinity or It's Fine To Be Queeeeer on the other. People are complex, not just Good or Bad.

I can see why if there's an option to opt out, get VIP treatment as 'the most oppressed!' and yet face zero consequences/repercussions like they would for existing as a marginalized etc person (eg women are harassed walking down the street and spend a lot of time being ambiently afraid or stressed, if you're poor you are fearful and stressed by insecure housing etc) nor 'restorative pushback'/SJW check your privilege talk that non marginalized groups do?
It's an escape hatch, and you are now top dog.
I can see why for an internet brained young guy it's tempting. Or any guy really.

https://blogs.feministwiki.org/socjuswiz/2019/10/20/masculinity-anime-and-gender-dysphoria/

 

[Squirrelcop]

Especially when you have a soccer mom pining for you to be the next big gay thing to get sympathy, money and asspats. Munchhausens by gay proxy.

 

[Érui]

Example:

I think this is one of the few times I’ve seen any family member seem to genuinely care about Jazz and his feelings. I really wanted his dad to get up and hug him.

I can’t imagine ever just sitting there seeing my child trying not to cry telling me how shit they feel about themselves and not having physical contact with them, whether a hug, an arm round them or just something.
Janette is so cold towards her child

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

The sad thing is, the weight probably helps Jazz pass. Not well, of course, he still looks like a ten year old head transplanted onto an elderly transsexual dude’s body, but I imagine that impression of stunted boyhood would be much more apparent if he was at pre-surgery weight. After a certain point, there is no gender, only fat.

 

[Loony Tunes]

Know what's funny? I've read stories of depressed "asexuals" who went on SSRIs and got a sex drive. I wonder if it's like adderal where it chills out kids with ADHD but makes everyone else hyper.

Of course that’s what happens. When you’re depressed, you’re not getting enough seratonin or whatever and ssri’s help that happen. If you take medication that you don’t need it’s just going to fuck up your brain/body/behavior

I think this is one of the few times I’ve seen any family member seem to genuinely care about Jazz and his feelings. I really wanted his dad to get up and hug him.

I can’t imagine ever just sitting there seeing my child trying not to cry telling me how shit they feel about themselves and not having physical contact with them, whether a hug, an arm round them or just something.
Janette is so cold towards her child

For a family that claims to be sooooooooo close, they hardly ever hug

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

It’s that weird kind of pseudo closeness where they’re constantly doing family activities and proclaiming their clannish togetherness, but with no real warmth. Part of that is probably being on a TV show, but I’ve seen confectured family closeness like that in meat space.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

One family's "closeness" is another family's "terrible boundaries and emotional incest."

Jeannette is the kind of mom who structures elaborate family activities all weekend, every weekend because otherwise the kids would be hanging out with friends and I am feel uncomfortable when we are not about me?

 

[all4mom2]

I think this is one of the few times I’ve seen any family member seem to genuinely care about Jazz and his feelings. I really wanted his dad to get up and hug him.

I can’t imagine ever just sitting there seeing my child trying not to cry telling me how shit they feel about themselves and not having physical contact with them, whether a hug, an arm round them or just something.
Janette is so cold towards her child

Greg is a genuinely loving person who genuinely cares for Jazz, however badly he failed him in the past. For a more glaring example of family coldness (not to be confused with closeness), see Jazz have his valedictorian speech day meltdown while the ENTIRE family, including grands (sans Greg, who was at work), just stared in stony and disapproving silence.

 

[Xanthe]

It’s that weird kind of pseudo closeness where they’re constantly doing family activities and proclaiming their clannish togetherness, but with no real warmth. Part of that is probably being on a TV show, but I’ve seen confectured family closeness like that in meat space.

Yeah. It's so obvious they all really hate each other. Even the twins don't get along. "Oh, we actually ENJOY spending time together!" Um, no, you could cut the tension with a knife. It's eerie to watch.

Greg is a genuinely loving person who genuinely cares for Jazz, however badly he failed him in the past. For a more glaring example of family coldness (not to be confused with closeness), see Jazz have his valedictorian speech day meltdown while the ENTIRE family, including grands (sans Greg, who was at work), just stared in stony and disapproving silence.

Really? He usually comes across as the most distant of all.

 

[all4mom2]

Really? He usually comes across as the most distant of all.

Well, I have a soft spot for Greg. He seems to be the kindest to Jazz. Ari (who takes after Greg) to a lesser degree. I realize that's setting the bar low...

Interesting: https://youtu.be/gM0LF9SlDOs

 

[PBR Streetgang]

Lol and now Jazz has a permanent "soft spot" since his cucked dad is too busy enabling an insane harpie of a wife

 

[Wonder dong]

Greg is a fucking pussy for allowing his SON to be fucking mutilated and now having to shove a wand up his ditch hole for the rest of his god damn life. Spare me the saint greg bullshit

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Greg is a fucking pussy for allowing his SON to be fucking mutilated and now having to shove a wand up his ditch hole for the rest of his god damn life. Spare me the saint greg bullshit

That and using the spectre of Jazz an-heroing to scare Ari into submission.

 

[Gramlol]

That and using the spectre of Jazz an-heroing to scare Ari into submission.

That's basically the whole trans rights movement though, do what we say or we'll kill ourselves (even kids)

 

[Muttnik]

Men like Greg and Sander depress me. You are born for more than just being led around by the balls by your mother or spouse. I certainly wouldn't tolerate being married to a man who constantly cucks me out and forces me to go along with constant media bullshit. It goes both ways.
Relationships are an equal partnership based on strengths and weaknesses. Both parties work as a team. Jeanette clearly controls the whole household and Greg's either too weak, too stupid, or too busy to realize he's basically just another one of her minions.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I had this stupid long post written up about men, great men, even, who relied heavily on their wives emotionally or professionally, for better and worse. Then I remembered those women tended to be whip smart or forces of personality. What the fuck is Greg’s excuse? Dude married a woman who couldn’t predict that keeping her son’s dick small via prostate cancer drugs would keep his dick small. We ain’t talking about Eleanor Roosevelt or Joan Boocock here. Pretty clear case of a mediocre person having just enough cunning and stubbornness to dominate even bigger wastes of skin.