Jason Reitman is empowering toxic ‘Ghostbusters’ fanboys -

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I mean, male Ghostbusters? The bros are taking over.

Jason Reitman, son of Ghostbusters (1984) director Ivan Reitman, is reigniting the drama that plagued the discussion of Ghostbusters (2016). Jason Reitman was revealed to be the director of what is effectively Ghostbusters 3 in January. Along with a teaser trailer, it was revealed that Jason Reitman’s incarnation of the series would take place in the same continuity as the 1980s movies and apparently ignore Ghostbusters (2016).

In an interview this week on comedian Bill Burr’s Monday Morning Podcast, Reitman expressed a desire to “go back to original technique and hand the movie back to the fans.” Reitman elaborates on this by saying “We went back and found the original physical vinyl letters that they used to create the Ghostbusters poster in 1984, [and] rescanned them, then our titles guys reprinted them and we filmed the titles. We shot physical titles with a light-and-smoke effect ’cause that’s how they would have done it back in the day.” A purely literal interpretation would imply that Reitman wants to rely on practical effects as a contrast to the CGI-filled endeavor that was the 2016 version.

By choosing to frame his film as a love letter to the ’80s, not speaking on the controversy surrounding the 2016 release, and effectively deleting the 2016 film from whatever Ghostbusters canon there may be, Reitman is giving in to the critics of 2016 movie who attacked it with sexism. To his credit, he told Entertainment Weekly last month that he liked the 2016 version but that this one would focus on the original’s “trajectory.”

In his overly canned diplomacy, it’s what he’s ignoring that’s landing as a tacit endorsement of fanboy culture.

The 2016 movie is more remembered for the controversy it generated rather than standing on its own as a separate work. Ghostbusters happens to be the subject that finally got alt-right charlatan Milo Yiannopoulos suspended permanently from Twitter. Yiannopoulos’ very public coordinated harassment against Ghostbusters star Leslie Jones led to the social network finally taking action against Yiannopoulos and terminating his account.

Now, new developments could mean that Ghosbusters (2016) will be lost to time and forgotten as part of the Ghostbustersfranchise. All the harassment that director Paul Feig and actors Kate McKinnon, Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, and Jones had to endure in the lead up to the film’s release will have been for nothing.

Jones had this to say on Twitter concerning the outright erasure of her work: “So insulting,” she tweeted on Tuesday. “Like fuck us … It’s like something trump would do.”

Ghostbusters (2016) was by no means a masterpiece. It was enjoyable enough but by raking in only $229 million worldwide, it did fall short of the lofty expectations we hold of Hollywood blockbusters. However, because of the controversy leading up to the film actually coming out, it’s a miracle that the release of the film wasn’t an utter disaster.

As a reboot of the 1980s cult hit, the female-lead Ghostbusters was a lukewarm, mild product of the Hollywood movie-making machine that was exactly what it needed to be and not much more. As a case for representation, it showed that underrepresented demographics can have middle-of-the-road movies too. The movie functions as a cultural flashpoint but not so much as a cultural game-changer. Then again, it’s a screwball comedy about adults who fight ghosts with backpacks.

Ghostbusters (1984) was just fine. Ghostbusters 2 (1989) was pretty bad. Ghostbusters (2016) was OK. Twitter users are exasperated with Ghostbusters discourse and many point out the ridiculous nature of having such reverence for what really is just a goofy 1980s comedy.

Reitman’s Ghostbusters is slated for a summer 2020 release because time is a flat circle and we’re all doomed to keep going through these same motions forever.
 

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Ghostbusters (1984) was just fine.

Article discarded out of hand due to quote above. Nostalgia goggles or no, the first Ghostbusters film is one of the best in its decade. Oh, and whining about time being a flat circle rings a bit disingenuous when one is aiding in the perpetuation of the endless "Ghostbusters is sexist!" -> "For the love of God shut up and let people like things you don't like" media cycle.
 

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It was Paul Feig's choice to make Ghostbusters (2016) a reboot of the franchise. There was nothing Reitman could do other than ignore it because the movie was a financial disapointment.

Fans know damn well that reboots have the big potential to end old canon. It's the reason why Devil May Cry fans en masse rejected the reboot DMC: Devil May Cry. Had that game succeeded there would not be DMCV.
 

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Jones had this to say on Twitter concerning the outright erasure of her work: “So insulting,” she tweeted on Tuesday. “Like fuck us … It’s like something trump would do.”

Get fucked.

This narrative that if a movie involving Women / PoC / LGBTQ doesn't do well, it's automatically because of the white, cis, male normative is the very peak autism of what's fucking wrong with entertainment. It's almost like propaganda anymore. "LIKE THIS OR ELSE" is the threat hanging over the general public's head. Never mind good acting, storytelling, production, sound design, editing... ect.
 

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Replace "religion" with your outrage crusade (which is really still just a religion):

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Get fucked.

This narrative that if a movie involving Women / PoC / LGBTQ doesn't do well, it's automatically because of the white, cis, male normative is the very peak autism of what's fucking wrong with entertainment. It's almost like propaganda anymore. "LIKE THIS OR ELSE" is the threat hanging over the general public's head. Never mind good acting, storytelling, production, sound design, filmography... ect.

All gril ghostbusters could have worked if it were a good movie
 

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Right? But no. They had to play up every easy trope to a fault and put the most bland story imaginable around it all.

That's not america dismissing a woman's ghostbusters, its america not rewarding a shitty movie.
They should be mad at the studio creating fake outrage blaming the women rather than feig who was in way over his head as a director
 

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All gril ghostbusters could have worked if it were a good movie
It was actually a smart idea. If it were just 4 men it would've been, like... Seth Rogen and his tired unfunny crew. 4 women was different enough to have potential.

But Sony thought it was a good idea to delete critical comments not about women and emphasize the ones that were because some dangerhair in marketing convinced them a gender war was the best way to sell a comedy film, so here we all are.
 

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i haven't seen the girlbusters movie myself but everything i know about it indicates that its writing was shit. the jokes were cringy, and apparently it also had dance scenes lol.
regarding the cast: of the the four actresses they picked, two are fat and ugly. also as far as i know, all four of them are primarily known for being TV clowns on #woke american late night comedy shows in the past? not a good starting point for a quality movie.

if they had picked likable actresses and a decent script, maybe it would have turned out good. but they chose a cringefest script, and picked leslie "harambe" jones and melissa mccarthy to be the faces of their movie, so the resulting film was a disaster. also, running a "haha we on top now, suck it silly boys :P" marketing campaign didn't do them any favors either.

script wasn't the problem. the script was basically just 1984 ghostbusters, but the movie was riddled with too much improv. i think it was mentioned in the plinkett video that feig would just let them riff for hours long takes with little regard for script or plot. this is why the strongest characters in the movie are the natural actors just doing their best (hemsworth and jones)
 
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