Artcow Javiera Alegria Solar / DestinytoMoon / Orquidia-art and Jessica Ortiz / JouleJay / Succulentbud - Diversity and disability fetishist, confirmed cis, equally phony "boyfriend" loves picking fights with better artists

Spergenschütz

Happy Pride Month
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I'm pretty excited to see how this arc will play out as the next things that could happen would be very entertaining, especially if videos of Jay or maybe Destiny start getting made. One surefire way to see if Twitter drama gets large and widespread enough would be if YouTube videos by commentator YouTubers start getting made.

Also apologies if it has been stated before, but this thread has just hit 5K replies and a million views.
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SuspiciousAsteroid

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Seems like destinytomoon is nuked. The orquidiaarte isn’t though

but what I find super funny is shit like this confirming destiny is Ivy and the same dumb shit over again

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Dumbass brain dead Tumblr don’t know about the harassing minors and black ppl plus her race faking ...

plus she dipped destinytomoon and became orquidiaarte when she got accused of faking trans so congrats on proving Destiny/Ivy has a habit of this
"People in real life have said it's not hers" Oh yeah it's not like she and her entire circle have been known to.... oh idk...lie relentlessly to their gullible brain-dead followers like yourself who just lap it right up? Why the fuck would we need to lie and make up a fake birth certificate when Ivy and Jay do that all their own.

Also why are you, who is probably a white American girl trying to apply American laws to a girl from Chile?

Anyways the quickest way I've seen to get these people who continue to perpetuate the idea that KiwiFarms is a a horrible site run by Nazis, to shut up is to just start talking about then briefly which will make them start having a panic attack and hyperventilating like the whole BattyKat idiot. They'll think we want to doxx them or some shit and lock all their stuff down before coming back and saying something like "I don't want to talk about it anymore for fear of my safety" So hi, harlequinmutual. You can kindly shut the fuck up now.
 

Oshasha

My waifu’s fat hog
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"People in real life have said it's not hers" Oh yeah it's not like she and her entire circle have been known to.... oh idk...lie relentlessly to their gullible brain-dead followers like yourself who just lap it right up? Why the fuck would we need to lie and make up a fake birth certificate when Ivy and Jay do that all their own.
Funny enough is when I see this thrown around by a person who talked to her so called irl friend

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It’s. Telling. how much of a lie this is, why tf would a friend have to confirm your birth certificate????? Not only that, it’s super possible to lie and get on a discord acc and pretend to be another person. It’s really that easy. There is no fact checking...

these people can’t legit win debates and they just wanna cry RACIST RACIST cuz they don’t have any other argument
 

Tanti-Fanti

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The fact of the matter is that Jay and Destiny won't admit that they're lying because it would mean that everything else they've done would be put into question. How they treat other people, the harassment they claim they receive on a daily basis, etc. The thing about crying wolf is that once you do it a certain amount of times, it becomes much harder to take what you say at face value. I can imagine this being a shock to some of their younger fans as a lot of these people are absolutely glued to social media. To them, these people ARE their world and when that comes tumbling down, it's hard to grasp and come to grips with. Most experienced people would be a little hurt but move on and understand that some people sadly use that to take advantage of others, but it's clear that Jay and Destiny have basically whipped their fanbase into covering for them when drama occurs.


A lot of these fans have invested so much time and energy (even money in some cases) to help Jay and Destiny under the guise of being a good person, fan or ally. Knowing that they're being taking advantage of is harder to grasp rather than just accusing everyone else of being a liar. It's why people who even choose to look at this forum to see what's going on get so much shit. No one's allowed to think or even question whether or not Jay and Destiny are even telling the truth. I can 100% understand why people would go anon here. Their fans are so restrictive and toxic to anyone who doesn't take everything these people say at face value.
 

Brainworms

No signs of intelligent life anywhere.
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Hi I'm out of the loop, I'm gonna read ahead but I saw that she went private again

Edit: good lord.
Love seeing the community speak out against destiny on here, but please don't get anxious about her cult, if there's really as much people who dislike her here as there are on twitter, I think the worst she'd do is curl up in a ball and cry. Secondly, god what an idiot. Thirdly, thank u to everyone who's kept up with this sad human being for a year, it has almost been a year since the thread started, I think I've been in the know for like 5-6 months unfortunately. I wish she'd stop trying to rebrand with sjw bullshit and become an actual artist. Being gay fat and ugly is not as cool as u think it is. Also I saw someone else complain about the way she draws stimming, if you can't tell by the fact I have a kiwifarms account, I'm autistic, I know autistic people. No one fucking does that... The only person I know who's done something like that is this lil girl who faked shit she saw people have on tik Tok... Recently I've been too lazy to get into retarded art discourse but destiny fills me with an amount of rage that is unmatched by anything else.

If anyone close to destiny/ if destiny herself is reading this thread: please for the love of god go outside, none of what you're defending matters.
 
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vbssimp

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Oh also did Orquidiaarte start the MikusonaMonday thing? I find that funny if so because everyone on Twitter started insisting people use that instead after the MikuEbooks/MikuMonday creator DFE’d because they’d been outed for some suspect tweets about minors or what not. Would be pretty funny to see if they start using a third tag because now both of those hashtags have been tainted by a creep and a liar alike.
For anyone wondering, Mikuebooks was run by a trans woman who went by cybershoujo on twitter. A popular person on idol game twitter, especially Bandori and of course Vocaloid. They tweeted about wanting to have sex with underaged lesbians on a private account, went on a whole rant on priv over their creepy advances being rejected, and disappeared from the internet when caught. There was a note apology but it was garbage.

Back onto Ivy, being a progressive artist tends to allow for more dubious things under the idea you must be a good person because you support human rights. People continually bring up her art as a defense for her character as if that makes her innocent. If your self-esteem is built upon one random stranger on the internet drawing fat people on their ipad, like so many of her followers claim, you need to find alternate ways of building confidence that are more realistic and reliable. Not just temporary satisfaction.
Here’s an old screenshot of the first situation.
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Oshasha

My waifu’s fat hog
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If your self-esteem is built upon one random stranger on the internet drawing fat people on their ipad, like so many of her followers claim, you need to find alternate ways of building confidence that are more realistic and reliable. Not just temporary satisfaction.
You know if these people actually went to art school and went into an art history class, Body positivity art existed way before tumblr and it’s ridiculous that the excuse to defend her is “well she draws fat women” as if she isn’t the only person who draws fat women. In fact theres better artists that can draw fat girls imho ex Super Pochaco who is actually fat yet REALLY well drawn and cute as anything..
 

Brainworms

No signs of intelligent life anywhere.
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You know if these people actually went to art school and went into an art history class, Body positivity art existed way before tumblr and it’s ridiculous that the excuse to defend her is “well she draws fat women” as if she isn’t the only person who draws fat women. In fact theres better artists that can draw fat girls imho ex Super Pochaco who is actually fat yet REALLY well drawn and cute as anything..
Yeah, the way she draws fat women is frankly kind of fetishy too. Fat people draw themselves way differently I think... the way she draws it it's too bubbly? I don't know the right word to use, look up furry fat fetish porn

Also yes I love pochaco!! The figures that have Sonico a little chubby make me happy too
 

Tanti-Fanti

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You know if these people actually went to art school and went into an art history class, Body positivity art existed way before tumblr and it’s ridiculous that the excuse to defend her is “well she draws fat women” as if she isn’t the only person who draws fat women. In fact theres better artists that can draw fat girls imho ex Super Pochaco who is actually fat yet REALLY well drawn and cute as anything..
I think the main issue with how Destiny draws fat people is how idealized it is. And to be fair, most art is like that, even from centuries ago, but to claim it's 100% representative of how ALL fat girls should be is a bit much. I've noticed that with this type of art that proclaims drawing cellulite, scars, stretch marks, etc. it's either never drawn correctly or very pronounced. Yes, most people have these things, but for an average person you'd have to actively search for those qualities. They aren't always present from miles away and most people don't like showing it off to begin with. Even the people that do have these attributes still don't look much like the drawings Destiny makes.

Yes, art can be stylized. I understand that. However, for example, the fat people Destiny makes always have very idealized faces. The fat distribution is also very samey. It's only distributed mainly to the upper thighs, stomach area and upper arms. If you have seen plenty of overweight people in your life, you know that their weight distribution is usually very "off" and "uneven". It varies much more than what Destiny shows with their work. For some people, the weight gathers more around their upper torso. For others, it's their lower half of their body, etc. I'm not saying the fat people that Destiny draws do not exist in real life, but again, to reiterate, it's not the most common ones you are most likely to see.
 

Kiwilurk

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Yeah, the way she draws fat women is frankly kind of fetishy too. Fat people draw themselves way differently I think... the way she draws it it's too bubbly? I don't know the right word to use, look up furry fat fetish porn

Also yes I love pochaco!! The figures that have Sonico a little chubby make me happy too
How can it be fetishy if they are just standing there in a void in the same poses she repeats all the time?. Yeah they are barely wearing anything at times but that obviously not sexualizing, right?
 

M A

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How can it be fetishy if they are just standing there in a void in the same poses she repeats all the time?. Yeah they are barely wearing anything at times but that obviously not sexualizing, right?
She has drawn some pretty damn sexual poses while they’re in bikinis or underwear. Blatantly calls herself and one of her characters sluts. Constantly draws some character with her fat characters blushing profusely and always being in love with them

not to mention the constant “boobs” comments her followers put on her work. Her fans are super horny for her characters and she plays along.
 

Oshasha

My waifu’s fat hog
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How can it be fetishy if they are just standing there in a void in the same poses she repeats all the time?. Yeah they are barely wearing anything at times but that obviously not sexualizing, right?
Nah it isn’t fetishy to draw sexy outfits but the issue is that almost every pic is sexualized or implies that the women look at boobs (eps wlw) which is heartbreaking and a wrong idea of how we are.... and it’s every single image..... It doesn’t feel like a fleshed out female character there are barely developments in her ocs anyways

plus she is hypocritical cuz she and her followers are the kinds to shit on over sexualized characters in media
 

weirdMcGee

the autistic fish trapped in a piss tank
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Yea know, I knew something was legit amiss when destiny portrays any group of people that isn’t her own (even her own nationality) including fat people. You don’t know how frustrating it is to see your own body type either drawn as the object of sexual objectification and deviantart fetishizing bait than actual yea know, human beings? But lord forbid you make a plus size character who isn’t a buddly friend shaped angel owo. I really hate woke white people so dang much.
 

vbssimp

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Nah it isn’t fetishy to draw sexy outfits but the issue is that almost every pic is sexualized or implies that the women look at boobs (eps wlw) which is heartbreaking and a wrong idea of how we are.... and it’s every single image..... It doesn’t feel like a fleshed out female character there are barely developments in her ocs anyways

plus she is hypocritical cuz she and her followers are the kinds to shit on over sexualized characters in media
a lot of sapphic art is just staring at breasts/each other and nothing else. unfortunately due to the lack of f/f content many go crazy over things like that.
 

Oshasha

My waifu’s fat hog
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I hate bringing this bitch up again maybe she needs a mini thread. But BattyKat_ is so fucking insane and insinuating that these throwaways keep stalking her and talking bout her when I’ve barely seen these throwaways talk about her cept recently

also she is in denial bc if she didn’t want to defend Ivy and Jay she wouldn’t go out to seek throwaways and block them omg....

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She even blocked my acc I never talked bout her before she even blocked me. Just say you defend Jay’s harassment and blame victims already.

imagine treating throwaways of former followers and minorities like they’re awful for calling out two people who betrayed their trust...

edit: I forgot to post this but this is her excuse of what she meant by “~Just Block and Move On~” it’s still a dumb take. The victims should not be the ones blocking and moving on, esp if they have smaller followers. Jay should not be interacting at all nor use his billion follower count to go after people. She is so backwards
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=just screams=

I do be suffering Lmao
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I hate bringing this bitch up again maybe she needs a mini thread. But BattyKat_ is so fucking insane and insinuating that these throwaways keep stalking her and talking bout her when I’ve barely seen these throwaways talk about her cept recently

also she is in denial bc if she didn’t want to defend Ivy and Jay she wouldn’t go out to seek throwaways and block them omg....

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She even blocked my acc I never talked bout her before she even blocked me. Just say you defend Jay’s harassment and blame victims already.

imagine treating throwaways of former followers and minorities like they’re awful for calling out two people who betrayed their trust...
It sounds like she's just using it to be relevant. On a serious note it's honestly pathetic and sad to see how she's so bothered by this. If she literally stuck with her word of not speaking up about the subject of Ivy or Jay literally everyone would ignore her. If anything she's the fucking weirdo making it about herself and saying they're stalking her (aka just using the screenshots of tweets relevant about the Ivy/Jay drama). The only time the throwaway accounts bring her up IS when she tries white knighting. Batty if you're reading this just stop talking about Jay and Ivy that's fucking it, that's all you need to do for others to stop bringing you up. Also stop whining how people are taking screenshots of your dumb takes about the drama, that's nothing like stalking.
 
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vbssimp

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I hate bringing this bitch up again maybe she needs a mini thread. But BattyKat_ is so fucking insane and insinuating that these throwaways keep stalking her and talking bout her when I’ve barely seen these throwaways talk about her cept recently

also she is in denial bc if she didn’t want to defend Ivy and Jay she wouldn’t go out to seek throwaways and block them omg....

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She even blocked my acc I never talked bout her before she even blocked me. Just say you defend Jay’s harassment and blame victims already.

imagine treating throwaways of former followers and minorities like they’re awful for calling out two people who betrayed their trust...

edit: I forgot to post this but this is her excuse of what she meant by “~Just Block and Move On~” it’s still a dumb take. The victims should not be the ones blocking and moving on, esp if they have smaller followers. Jay should not be interacting at all nor use his billion follower count to go after people. She is so backwards
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> “LEAVE ME ALONE!!!”
> Quote-retweets people criticizing Jay after being told by her partner to stop, actively talks about the throwaways.

She would be a literal who and never mentioned if she didn’t constantly involve herself in the situation to defend Jay and Ivy, people who most likely don’t know or care about her in the first place.

My favorite part of the thread is her randomly mentioning tradwife Dimileth au and posting anime girls right after. Like okay. You’re posting this in public and giving yourself attention, just ignore the throwaways. You’re one of the only defenders actually giving them attention.

Edit: I think she’s been block evading the throwaways too, irony.
 
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