@jcd spergs about how gay he is -

[jcd]

-Your entire "argument" hinges on the idea that homosexuality is "wrong" because it's unnatural.
-Wearing clothing, shitting in a toilet, vaccinating against disease, and killing things with guns are all also unnatural.

You have no idea what "unnatural" entails. Clothes are artificial, but they need not be unnatural (though some technologies can). But that's another can of worms in its own right. When Goethe refused to look through a microscope he had a good sense of the evil inherent in certain "artifices").

Grade school Platonism? Still too much for the Kiwifarms atheistard to grasp. Can't think of any more ways to simplify my language.

As for homofaggotry, it is an affront to the principal order and thus why it is considered abhorrent. Its not that complicated.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

As for homofaggotry, it is an affront to the principal order and thus why it is considered abhorrent. Its not that complicated.

Who gives a shit about the principal order? Why does going against it bother you, and why shouldn’t two people who love each other be allowed to go against it?

 

[jcd]

Who gives a shit about the principal order? Why does going against it bother you, and why shouldn’t two people who love each other be allowed to go against it?

Yeah, why should anything exist at all? Homos should be allowed to just violate each other in perpetuity with total disregard for everything that's good and beautiful. Btw homofaggot "love" is an oxymoron. What homosexuality represents is directly opposite to love (aka that cosmic order that you'd love to ignore).

 

[Крыса]

Yeah, why should anything exist at all? Homos should be allowed to just violate each other in perpetuity with total disregard for everything that's good and beautiful. Btw homofaggot "love" is an oxymoron. What homosexuality represents is directly opposite to love (aka that cosmic order that you'd love to ignore).

Print that on a rainbow t shirt I'll wear it.

Edit : decent random_text.txt too maybe ?

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Yeah, why should anything exist at all? Homos should be allowed to just violate each other in perpetuity with total disregard for everything that's good and beautiful. Btw homofaggot "love" is an oxymoron. What homosexuality represents is directly opposite to love (aka that cosmic order that you'd love to ignore).

If both people consent nobody’s getting violated, moron

 

[jcd]

If both people consent nobody’s getting violated, moron

"Consenting adults", the last refuge of the moral relativist. Well, perhaps the only refuge they have.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

"Consenting adults", the last refuge of the moral relativist. Well, perhaps the only refuge they have.

“I don’t personally approve of this action, therefore nobody should be allowed to partake in it”, the last refuge of an authoritarian asshole. Well, perhaps the only refuge they have.

 

[jcd]

Yes because consenting adults > morals, standards, and order. Librul logic on display.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

And I’m sure there’s a very good reason we should allow you to set the standards

 

[︈︈︈]

Yes because consenting adults > morals, standards, and order. Librul logic on display.

So is there any actual reasoning to your statement of "gayy buttsecks is bad" other than "the cosmic order descended and told me"?

 

[jcd]

This is like asking me if there's any "actual reasoning" to my statement that 2+2=4. You can't explain that which ought to be obvious and self evident.

The problem with the natural argument is that the revulsion people feel instinctively for homosexuals is also natural. Of course, try to argue with a liberal that homophobia is just something one is born with. Lulz are bound to ensue.

 

[AnOminous]

Yeah, why should anything exist at all? Homos should be allowed to just violate each other in perpetuity with total disregard for everything that's good and beautiful. Btw homofaggot "love" is an oxymoron. What homosexuality represents is directly opposite to love (aka that cosmic order that you'd love to ignore).

+1 upboated fellow redditor can I subsrcibe to ur mailing list?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

You have such a facile understanding of your own alleged belief system that I feel compelled to thoroughly take you to task, post by post:

You have no idea what "unnatural" entails. Clothes are artificial, but they need not be unnatural (though some technologies can). But that's another can of worms in its own right. When Goethe refused to look through a microscope he had a good sense of the evil inherent in certain "artifices").

Grade school Platonism? Still too much for the Kiwifarms atheistard to grasp. Can't think of any more ways to simplify my language.

As for homofaggotry, it is an affront to the principal order and thus why it is considered abhorrent. Its not that complicated.

1. This is nothing but sophistry: you are defining "natural" as something other than what the word means in the public square and then using that definition as if it was the common definition. The word "natural" means "behavior exhibited by animals, free of human influence". By this standard, shitting in a toilet is unnatural- and, funnily enough, homosexuality is.
2. You are a Platonist? If you are serious about that, you are going to have to reject every single major written work of intelligensia after around 120AD: including the work of the Doctors of the Church (I assume you are Christian, or some approximation thereof?) Aristotelianism is so deeply embedded in Western thought that it is inescapable.
3. Show that there is a principle order that exists objectively and that homosexuality is against it. I could assert that eating blue objects is against the principle order and it would have equal weight.

Yeah, why should anything exist at all? Homos should be allowed to just violate each other in perpetuity with total disregard for everything that's good and beautiful. Btw homofaggot "love" is an oxymoron. What homosexuality represents is directly opposite to love (aka that cosmic order that you'd love to ignore).

Once again, you are a sophist on two levels: first, you claim that rejection of your unasserted belief is the same as despising the entire universe. By claiming this, you want to rape the elderly: my statement has the same syllogistic weight as yours. And again, you just use whatever definition you feel like, instead of engaging in communication.

"Consenting adults", the last refuge of the moral relativist. Well, perhaps the only refuge they have.

The moral relativist wouldn't care about consent, because consent is a relative value, you fool. Not everything that disagrees with you is le spooky Moral Relativism.

Yes because consenting adults > morals, standards, and order. Librul logic on display.

This shows your real reason to be here: to Own The Libs, not to use your forebrain.

This is like asking me if there's any "actual reasoning" to my statement that 2+2=4. You can't explain that which ought to be obvious and self evident.

The problem with the natural argument is that the revulsion people feel instinctively for homosexuals is also natural. Of course, try to argue with a liberal that homophobia is just something one is born with. Lulz are bound to ensue.

I naturally feel a revulsion towards morons who ape the shape of intelligence believing it's the same as actually being intelligent. By your own so-called "reasoning", your argument supports you being wrong and unnatural.

Overall: Dunning-Kruger/10, shallow thoughts incarnate.

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

A lot of animals are fairly gay. Giraffes, for one, come to mind -- they are gay as hell. Unless they picked the idea up after watching one too many pride parades in Africa, I'd say it's pretty natural. It may not end up getting shown much on NatGeo, but then again, they don't show a whole lot of straight lion-on-lion fucking, either.

Also, there's an awful lot of pleasurable nerve endings in the butt region. Unless the Perfect And Intelligent Creator fucked up doing the plumbing/wiring in the basement, I'd say they're there for sexin'.

 

[DarkResearchAnon]

The biggest, most thorny problem with gay men is this selfdestructive obsession and craving for constant novelty. It causes all their sufferings, and all their enemies. It is why the old gays have a tendency to be thrown aside like ruined socks or last decade's fashions, it is why the trendy kinks keep getting more and more extreme(Pup-play> and then we have Dylan Hafteparten's nut inflation pup play) with one-upmanship and twitter and instagram, it will be why they openly start going after preteens and eventually even younger boys.
The second biggest problem is lack of masculine fathers, at least in dating preferences, quite a lot are trying to find then fuck the father they never had, and try having a "daddy son relationship". It rarely, if ever, goes well. Most just accomplish mass drama due to promiscuity and noveltyseeking.
There's mountains of drama just begging to be documented.

 

[mr.moon1488]

I think homosexuality is a mild mental disorder.
Why?
High rates of co-morbidity with major depressive disorder.
Symptoms are comparable with disorders such as pica disorder, in which a subject desires to fulfill hunger needs with non-food items. (e.g. rocks, sticks, coins)
Per capita, homosexual cases of pedophilia are far more common than heterosexual cases.
High correlation with childhood sexual abuse, suggesting a possible etiology.

Common arguments which fall somewhat flat.

It's natural because animals do it.

This is true, there are animals which partake in homosexual relationships. However, animals are also capable of developing some of the same psychological conditions as humans. They've even been used in the study of human psychology. (e.g. Learned helplessness was tested in dogs, Ivan Pavlov's conditioning experiments)

Consenting adults make it okay

Most people would say that those whom are mentally ill can not consent. I don't think it should be illegal, but it should not be encouraged.

It's perfectly safe

Almost all STDs are more common in homosexual (male) relationships, than in heterosexual relationships, and as mentioned previously, it has high rates of co-morbidity with other doubtlessly harmful disorders. Furthermore, homosexuals are more prone to other risky behaviors such as alcoholism, and drug use.

It's common

The classic Kinsey argument. Commonality does not mean something ceases to be a disease, or disorder. Eating disorders are very common in the US, and kill more people than any other mental disorder. (mainly anorexia) The logic, also doesn't apply outside of psychology, and into the rest of the medical community. If 90% of the population were to contract the common cold, it would not cease to be a disease.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

The biggest, most thorny problem with gay men is this selfdestructive obsession and craving for constant novelty. It causes all their sufferings, and all their enemies. It is why the old gays have a tendency to be thrown aside like ruined socks or last decade's fashions, it is why the trendy kinks keep getting more and more extreme(Pup-play> and then we have Dylan Hafteparten's nut inflation pup play) with one-upmanship and twitter and instagram, it will be why they openly start going after preteens and eventually even younger boys.
The second biggest problem is lack of masculine fathers, at least in dating preferences, quite a lot are trying to find then fuck the father they never had, and try having a "daddy son relationship". It rarely, if ever, goes well. Most just accomplish mass drama due to promiscuity and noveltyseeking.
There's mountains of drama just begging to be documented.

Do you really think that pervsion is something new? people have been disgusting for a very long time, it's not limited to homosexuals nor is the current wave of depravity truly that exceptional. If weirdos with daddy issues wanna dress up like pups for attention then hump on carpeted hotel floors at conventions, I'm just thankful I'm not in SF where they do it in the street.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think homosexuality is a mild mental disorder.
Why?
High rates of co-morbidity with major depressive disorder.
Symptoms are comparable with disorders such as pica disorder, in which a subject desires to fulfill hunger needs with non-food items. (e.g. rocks, sticks, coins)
Per capita, homosexual cases of pedophilia are far more common than heterosexual cases.
High correlation with childhood sexual abuse, suggesting a possible etiology.

Common arguments which fall somewhat flat.

This is true, there are animals which partake in homosexual relationships. However, animals are also capable of developing some of the same psychological conditions as humans. They've even been used in the study of human psychology. (e.g. Learned helplessness was tested in dogs, Ivan Pavlov's conditioning experiments)

Most people would say that those whom are mentally ill can not consent. I don't think it should be illegal, but it should not be encouraged.

Almost all STDs are more common in homosexual (male) relationships, than in heterosexual relationships, and as mentioned previously, it has high rates of co-morbidity with other doubtlessly harmful disorders. Furthermore, homosexuals are more prone to other risky behaviors such as alcoholism, and drug use.

The classic Kinsey argument. Commonality does not mean something ceases to be a disease, or disorder. Eating disorders are very common in the US, and kill more people than any other mental disorder. (mainly anorexia) The logic, also doesn't apply outside of psychology, and into the rest of the medical community. If 90% of the population were to contract the common cold, it would not cease to be a disease.

I don't think that's the truth, we live in a very complex society and a lot of gays (especially men) just don't fit in. That's more of the problem. Not saying that I like gay men, but animals are better at being Gay because they're not as intelligent, to them it's just sex where as humans are smart and dumb enough to build identities around their sexuality.

As for touching kids, that is problem in the fag community that should end.

 

[jcd]

A lot of animals are fairly gay. Giraffes, for one, come to mind -- they are gay as hell. Unless they picked the idea up after watching one too many pride parades in Africa, I'd say it's pretty natural. It may not end up getting shown much on NatGeo, but then again, they don't show a whole lot of straight lion-on-lion fucking, either.

By this perverted logic pedophilia is also perfectly natural, but I don't think that resident atheistards will take that well.

See the problem here is that most of the mouthbreathers here don't know what "natural" means and actively fight against grasping it.

This shows your real reason to be here: to Own The Libs, not to use your forebrain.

They own themselves, so no reason to help them.

Show that there is a principle order that exists objectively and that homosexuality is against it. I could assert that eating blue objects is against the principle order and it would have equal weight.

Show that 2+2=4. The truth is what it is, i don't have this compulsion you l1bruls have to deny or reject the validity and propriety of the natural order merely because the things of this world are relative and ultimately secondary to things of a more transcendent kind.

Again, to say nature is to say principle. Now manifestation, i.e., what we find in the physical world, is an unfolding of said principle into particular possibilities, some contrary to the principle itself. What you are doing essentially is denying the existence of a principal plane and then claim that even things which are contrary to the principle are "natural" merely due to their existence. By that token, diseases and deformities are "natural" too. By claiming there is no rule, the "exceptions" become normal as well.

The moral relativist wouldn't care about consent, because consent is a relative value, you fool. Not everything that disagrees with you is le spooky Moral Relativism.

Caring about consent is moral relativism because actual morality is fixed and absolute and doesn't change depending on anyone's consent.

 

[Toucan]

How much experience do you have with vaginas?

Aside from the one i came out of, very little.

I agree with most of your points but pee doesn't come out of the vagina.

Its in that general area. Lets not get bogged down in hair splitting.