thanks i appreciate it. her kf thread was linked so if it's too much work don't strain yourself
Once again, Lizzy’s supposed to be obsessive one,lily's just deliberately being an grade A prick at this point
thats the dark elf character lizzy made that she said she made asexual because she didnt want people sexualizing this character in particular.
And lily HAD to go and make her the most domminant and kinky out of all of them. this isn't your character lily, this is still lizzy's character she gave you permission to use, when she gave you permission to use her.doubt she's still giving you permission to do such anymore considering everything.
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Hey there.
Depends on the school, state, parish... Most school years are spent on the grammar part, and later grades focus more on essays and reading comprehension. It's more blended. Teachers probably hated her rambling essays, and she couldn't understand the sentences.
Isn't that the entire first Essence of Thought video? https://youtu.be/qQTvw1L258U
Watch EssenceofThought's video on it, Lily's word on it isn't the only view there is, and just because she says that's what happened doesn't mean it's necessarily incorrect. Despite her general stupidity about cartoons and writing shit, Lily isn't always wrong about everything ever, heck even some of her writing tips weren't totally bad or incorrect. That's a really bad attitude to have, unless we were talking about someone like Chris, but even then.
I know that Lily is not wrong about everything ever, there have been times in the past where I have agreed with her. I specifically gave an argument for why I did not believe her (her history of lying and the fact that she failed to reveal it sooner) and said that I could change my view if presented with evidence. I have now watched the video and I still do not see evidence that there was any grooming or a relationship. The only evidence provided in the video was an unsourced paragraph from a random Wiki page that was mainly talking about Josh's Firebrand OC. I have no idea who wrote that section, it is not verifiable information, and it seems to be referring to the OC's anyways. I find it very hard to believe that Lily would not have hit Josh over the head with this accusation years ago if it was true. I fully agree that it was a mistake for Josh and Lily to promote the ship, but I have yet to see proof that it got to the point where it became an actual relationship, or that Josh was interested in her. Don't get me wrong though, if there is information presented that proves the accusation then I will fully condemn Josh for it.
What I do know she's lying about is hating the idea or condemning it in secret while it was going on. Otherwise the whole Firerose thing was a legit thing that happened, and Josh's lack of denouncement over time (in other words he never said "Don't ship me with Ink Rose! She's underage!") speaks volumes. I don't know if he was necessarily into her but it's still pretty sus, because people around her were constantly saying how perfect a relationship between her and one of her friends in the community would be, despite her being underage.
This isn't the first time that happened, she's said a few nasty (and false) things about Josh years after they ended their friendship, almost as if she's come up with them on the spot after thinking about them;
From what I can tell, the dating between Ink and Josh didn't happen, but what did happen was the creation of the ship for a video (without people thinking of the implications). And then fans being fans and creating the shipping. It's... tricky. I don't think Josh encouraged it beyond the characters, but Lily certainly attempted line crossing.What I do know she's lying about is hating the idea or condemning it in secret while it was going on. Otherwise the whole Firerose thing was a legit thing that happened, and Josh's lack of denouncement over time (in other words he never said "Don't ship me with Ink Rose! She's underage!") speaks volumes. I don't know if he was necessarily into her but it's still pretty sus, because people around her were constantly saying how perfect a relationship between her and one of her friends in the community would be, despite her being underage.
So there's something you can condemn Josh for. Not telling people to lay off and stop promoting it.
As for this
This isn't the first time that happened, she's said a few nasty (and false) things about Josh years after they ended their friendship, almost as if she's come up with them on the spot after thinking about them;
She's accused Josh of basically holding her hostage and maintaining a "coercive friendship" under duress years after he cut ties with her.
She's called him racist for including a rather racially insensitive song about Natives from Peter Pan in the credits of their MLP Over a Barrel collab a number of years after the fact, as if she had zero creative input into the video at all.
The thing about the grooming thing is that it's not just coming from Lily (although, being opportunistic with people and things she doesn't like, has certainly hopped to the forefront of it), and it's something that if you do even a bit of thinking into the situation, you'd see that it's a real thing that did happen. Maybe not by Josh's hand, but certainly by his close friends and community at the time who promoted it. Heck, you yourself even admitted that it was a mistake for Josh and Lily to promote it
The above post by That Dumb Derp has a good take on this imo. From all available evidence, the shipping was just Josh and Ink Rose goofing around online because they found it funny. They did make it very clear that they were only cool with shipping their ocs, and not as actual people. Maybe the reason Josh did not denounce it was because him and Ink Rose never saw it as a serious problem? Even Lily and Josh's other detractors never even saw it as a problem until very recently to my knowledge, so it doesn't seem to have been something that was met with backlash to the point that a lack of denouncement spoke volumes. They probably just took it as a joke and never thought much about it after it stopped.What I do know she's lying about is hating the idea or condemning it in secret while it was going on. Otherwise the whole Firerose thing was a legit thing that happened, and Josh's lack of denouncement over time (in other words he never said "Don't ship me with Ink Rose! She's underage!") speaks volumes. I don't know if he was necessarily into her but it's still pretty sus, because people around her were constantly saying how perfect a relationship between her and one of her friends in the community would be, despite her being underage.
So there's something you can condemn Josh for. Not telling people to lay off and stop promoting it.
As for this
This isn't the first time that happened, she's said a few nasty (and false) things about Josh years after they ended their friendship, almost as if she's come up with them on the spot after thinking about them;
She's accused Josh of basically holding her hostage and maintaining a "coercive friendship" under duress years after he cut ties with her.
She's called him racist for including a rather racially insensitive song about Natives from Peter Pan in the credits of their MLP Over a Barrel collab a number of years after the fact, as if she had zero creative input into the video at all.
The thing about the grooming thing is that it's not just coming from Lily (although, being opportunistic with people and things she doesn't like, has certainly hopped to the forefront of it), and it's something that if you do even a bit of thinking into the situation, you'd see that it's a real thing that did happen. Maybe not by Josh's hand, but certainly by his close friends and community at the time who promoted it. Heck, you yourself even admitted that it was a mistake for Josh and Lily to promote it
Well personally,
